kab28az@yahoo.com
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 | | 10/23/2007 11:54 AM |
 Alert | Thanks for your opinion we are all entitled.
Run for the board. Step up. Try to push change through.....remember in order to change CCNRs you have to put it to a vote and have the members of the community sign off on it.
Good luck getting a majority. Good luck with the City Streets and the parking dangers that this has created. It won't fly.
Guess what: now you and your daughter can SAFELY ride your bikes to the green belt.
Additionally the folks that live off Adobe Circle can now SAFELY get it in and out of CFs.
Sorry that the CITY let you down by falsely telling you that the CITY LEAGUES can practice on PRIVATE CF property.
If you'd kindly redirect your anger to the appropriate people who inadvertenly without malice made promises with good intentions to you and your children I would really appreciate it. I'm quite sure that Marty would not have made promises or over extend himself maliciously. He was just trying to help out.
Unfortunately he spoke before getting all the facts.
Thanks for your unsolicited advice about my personal life and an assumption of what I am or am not trying to paint on this forum. I'll take it under advisement. snicker snicker
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BSpearsBdyGuard
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| | 10/23/2007 1:16 PM |
Alert | Sorry, I disagree with you on some of your points. Based on what my family knows through our friends, kids are practicing in the Meadows, Villeages, and other communities. I just don't think it's right that the vocal minority have ruined it for us. Nobody from the board has contacted me regarding the subject. How come other board members don't post here? I know we have issues with the splash pad and I agree with you about regulating use of that facility as well as the pool. I just think we are not exploring every possible option and you, as perhaps the most vocal member of the board, are speaking out of turn. Maybe not. It's clear to me there is a group for use of the soccer field and a group that is against use. I have a feeling you'll use your board seat to block any effort so it's kind of a moot point. I don't have the time to be on a board but I take time to vote, write my dues checks and keep my part of the street clean. I do appreciate your efforts to better the community.
This just sucks, I'm done venting. I'm focusing on teaching my daughter soccer. And oh, we might use the field to do so. | | | |
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kab28az@yahoo.com
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| | 10/23/2007 1:47 PM |
Alert | How do we know what the majority or minority opinions are?
I have stated clearly before in other posts (and I can see that you are new since you have only posted 8 times) that I do NOT speak on behalf of the HOA BOARD.
I speak as ONE member of the board trying to keep the community informed through the ONLY mechanism that actually gets people talking (and more often listening/reading). Many folks who are out and about on this forum are just browsing and reading.
MANY MANY people read this forum but do not attend the HOA Board meetings.
What I know as a truth is this: When people complain about something going on in the community, I check into it.
I checked with the management company (Lepin and Renehan) about this very issue BEFORE taking any action. I checked with the City as well. I did my research and found that the people who are complaining actually do have legitimate complaints that are already addressed through the CC&Rs, etc.
In other words, there are rules in place already to address this issue.
I am not changing the rules or bending the rules.
I just followed up on the complaints.
That's what I do on the board, I hear people, research what is or isn't allowed per the CC&Rs, by-laws, City rules, City codes, etc and report back.
I assure you, I am just the messenger in this.
I thought I was doing the Leagues a favor when I informed them in advance that they were not allowed on the property to hold City sponsored league activities. I thought I was doing a service to the community by helping to avoid children getting hurt by the illegal parking. I thought I was doing the people off of Adobe Circle a service by ensuring that they can safely and easily get through on the city streets in front of their homes. I thought I was helping to let everyone know that the proper agencies were informed. The parents could get tickets for their illegal parking.
Please do take your child and enjoy the amenities that you pay for. Please do go and enjoy the green belt.
The field is yours to use....YOU pay for it. The field is NOT for the City of Maricopa.
I sincerely hope that the City can come up with a solution for their league events. They should have thought about this BEFORE offering the services they do---IMHO.
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kab28az@yahoo.com
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| | 10/23/2007 1:55 PM |
Alert | And why don't other board members post here?
Beats me.
Probably to avoid conflict and to avoid being accused of being an alcoholic. wink wink
hehehehe ---I understand you were upset when you made those comments. I do get it. It's not "ME" but rather the situation.
I'm sticking to my original answer: beats me, I have no idea why others on the board do not post.
I can probably make an educated guess though as to why they don't post.....
Read the threads....see the badgering I take!
You can't make everyone happy all the time.
And you are constantly being judged for being the messenger.
My guess only....
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delby
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| | 10/23/2007 4:07 PM |
Alert | | So, why doesn't the management company write up a proposal for the use of the fields to make additional money to pay for the tremendous amounts of damage created by non- residents? In plain english we, the residents, could collect money for the use of the fields. Maybe even extra money for GREEN grass for once! | | | |
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kab28az@yahoo.com
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| | 10/23/2007 4:36 PM |
Alert | Excellent question.
You should come to the board meetings. ****BTW, we are proposing that they get changed from the third Tuesday of every month to be the third Thursday of every month to avoid conflicts with the city council meetings.****
This question has been brought up and addressed by the management company and the board. The fact remains: we were not designed nor built to be a PUBLIC facility. We would still have the SAME (possibly WORSE) parking, traffic, and safety issues.
The green grass issue is also complicated because of the reclaimed water and the clogged sprinkler heads. These issues were also discussed two board meetings ago when we had a rep from H2Ology give a presentation to discuss our current situation and some possible solutions.
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kab28az@yahoo.com
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| | 10/23/2007 4:47 PM |
Alert | This also opens another can of worms.
But I can't resist:
We could charge to have people access the pool.....we could make a killing in the summer.
wink wink
I AM TOTALLY KIDDING PEOPLE!
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kab28az@yahoo.com
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| | 10/23/2007 4:51 PM |
Alert | Oh and I have to let you all know, that the management company talked to Marty.
Apparently he only gave out my number to ONE person.
That person apparently lives in CF and is a lawyer.
I was told by the management company that Marty told them that he will not give out my number anymore.
Marty if you read this: thanks a bunch. I appreciate you not sharing my private cell phone number.
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lowlife
Posts:22
| | 10/26/2007 2:26 PM |
Alert | I too live in CF and also think it would be great if my two boys could go down to the baseball field and play T-ball with me and their friends. Unfortunately for us, it's either being used by some league or people that let their dogs run out there don't have the common courtesy(?) to clean up after them. I pay good money in HOA fees to keep this neighborhood looking nice and what I don't need are a bunch of ungrateful freeloaders using and destroying our common areas. When we bought our home and read over the HOA rules, in no line on it did i find that this community is open to all neighborhoods. I'm not trying to be mean but, I'm fed up with graghitti on the park playarea or bent basket ball hoops etc. ect. Thanks to the jerk that deficated in the mens bathroom at the pool a few years back I nor my family will ever use that amnety again. Seems like everyone out here thinks they are owd something for moving here. If you don't like our rules MOVE!!!
And to you LeonPotter, we can't try to bring our community (CF) together until people from other communities stop using our common areas and destroying them. I would love to meet other neighbors and enjoy our parks with them. But, it's hard when we have to plan around events that are non sanctioned in our own community.
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twostep23
Posts:1675
| | 10/27/2007 7:13 AM |
Alert | Your sure that it isn't people that live in CF that has done any of the damage?
A friends son got caught in the act and guess what.....him and his friends did live there in CF.
99% of the time the kids that do the damage don't leave the area where they live just to cause damage. They hang around their houses, get bored and then start the crap. There might be a few visiting kids but I guarantee you the majority of them live in the neighborhood.
It's very sad. ALL the communities are having some sort of problem with this exact thing and it basically goes back to the point that the teenagers and young adults of Maricopa don't have anything to do here in town. | |
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Jerseygirl
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| | 10/27/2007 8:07 AM |
Alert | While I'm sure that we have some of our own kids doing these things, as all neighborhoods everywhere do, that doesn't take away from the fact that we are not an "open community" as some people seem to think.
Once again, we had a group having their soccer practice in the field yesterday. I thought they were not allowed here anymore? What I can't understand, is why there is nowhere else to play ball? With so many new schools opened, and a nice big new park, why do we even need to use private parks? I think the true problem needs to be addressed; Where can our kids play ball? | |
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twostep23
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| | 10/27/2007 8:32 AM |
Alert | As long as the group has residents then they are guests and should be able to use the fields.
I would like to see more community green belt areas being used by resident kids and guests. It's a great feeling to drive by and see kids playing instead of driving by and seeing all the empty space not being used. And all the money that is being spent to keep it in playable condition.
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socrlvr
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| | 10/27/2007 5:13 PM |
Alert | | That is incorrect if the group is an organization or league they are not allowed to use the amenities regardless of one resident being a part of it. The field isn't being damaged by kids who are bored. The league kids have practice when the field has just been watered. It isn't their concern that it is damaging. I am sure there is damage in every neighborhood being done by bored kids but that doesn't mean it should be ok to open the neighborhood to all of Maricopa activities. Those individual children problems should be addressed separately. The parking lot is not made for that kind of use and definatley is a safety issue when cars pour onto the street. Jerseygirl, I saw that as well some teams continue to do it but I did notice no cars on the street and police driving through at practice times. Hopefully that will keep the parking from spilling onto the main street. | | | |
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twostep23
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| | 10/28/2007 12:09 AM |
Alert | If there grass is being ruin that late in the day then there is a problem with the watering schedule. The gardeners should have the timers set to be watering at night when it is more beneficial for the grass.
I'm sorry you feel the way that you do about the park areas and kids. I personally enjoy seeing the kids using the areas especially in a controlled environment. I wish that there was more activities for them to do. If there was there would probably be less problems with all the bored kids.
THIS IS ALL JUST MY OPINION!!!!! I wouldn't have an issue having them using the park areas in our community. Parks and kids just go hand in hand. | |
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Jerseygirl
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| | 10/28/2007 1:11 AM |
Alert | | Again, it's NOT a matter of weather we have a problem or not with children playing ball, please don't make us out to be mean rotten nasty people...The rules are in the CC&R's, it is not a PUBLIC area, it is private!!!!! It is a safety and liability and legal issue!!!! If we allow one small group of non residents we would have to allow all. And, our parking, and roads were not set up for that. We just had a very, very bad car accident here about 11:00, the driver was on the wrong side of the median, then around the circle the wrong way then all the way through to the pool then he hit the curb (at excessive speed) and flipped over...we need to keep safety FIRST...not last....I'd much rather have empty fields than kids darting out into the street from between cars at rush hour, and getting hurt! | |
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twostep23
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| | 10/29/2007 10:45 AM |
Alert | I'm not making anyone out to being anything.....as mentioned I'm just stating my opinion on the matter.
You have the right to do with your parks whatever your community sees fit to do.
And I am sorry that you're having this issue. From experiences I know they are no fun. Someone does have to be the bad guy. <img src='http://www.85239.com/desktopmodules/ntforums/images/emoticons/sad.gif' height='20' width='20' border='0' title='Sad' align='absmiddle'>
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lowlife
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| | 11/08/2007 11:32 AM |
Alert | | Seems like the majority of people that use our greenbelts and splashpads come from RED. If that's the case then why don't they get rid of their beautiful golf course and make some playgrounds for their kids. I'm sick of other communities saying we're snobs and feel nobody else is deserving of our common areas. They know what they were getting when they bought their houses. Why should we have to suffer because they wanted to save a buck and move to a cheaper community? | | | |
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Java Lover
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| | 11/08/2007 12:30 PM |
Alert | PRL has worked closely with all HOAs. They have made sure that the majority of kids on teams live in the HOAs that they practice in. They also provide a copy of their liability insurance to the HOAs for the practices. No games are ever played on HOA grounds.
I think it's great that our parks are being utilized. I rather have a few hours of inconvenience then no place for the kids to practice or wasted open space.
We all knew when we moved here that there were no city parks. Well we have one now and more in the works. Why can't we all just play nice? | | | |
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delby
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| | 11/08/2007 9:18 PM |
Alert | | And you wonder why people call us snobs lowlife. Do you live in the cheapees? | | | |
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CopaCarla
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| | 11/18/2007 11:22 AM |
Alert | One night I noticed small children practicing in a small grass area near the splash pad. A parent had to turn their car's brights on for the children to be able to see the ball. I just assumed it was a community soccer class put on by Parks and Recs. It didn't bother me but it seemed badly organized.
This is a difficult issue and hopefully we can figure something out that is a win-win for our kids. | | | |
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