Deftones
Posts:27
 | | 03/23/2008 10:27 AM |
 Alert | | I'm concerned about the weeds too. I have noticed more people out picking them up, which is a good sign. Another concern of mine is the sheer amount of cars being parked on the street. At any given point in time, on my street, there are at least 6-8 cars parked on my street right as you turn on it. It makes for a nightmare to navigate, especially when there is traffic coming both ways. I've seen one car up on a jack (for at least 2 weeks) and another car that has no tags/license plate on it, that hasn't moved in a month. Don't we have a neighborhood compliance officer? I know there is some one in Maricopa that deals with this stuff. | | | |
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chevyguy
Posts:82
| | 03/24/2008 9:58 AM |
Alert | Well we definelty have a lot of opinions on here. And that's great. I'm happy our first board meeting is coming up. I know things have been rough but that's because we have not had an active board. After next week that's a different story. I agree with "Tio Junior" that "We The People" need to take an active role in helping our board and management company. We will be even more effective if we do so. However I also agree "azsoutherndzone" and am tired of feeling like I am throwing away my 62 dollars. Glad to hear Graham is working on Orbitel. They are worthless and expensive. It's cheaper to get satellite. Plus their reception is crap. And yes...they've already been out to "fix it". So I cancelled my service and only have basic. Problem solved...now I want my 15 a month back See you all next week.
Oh yeah I have one word for all those who are covered in weeds.....LLAAZZYY. Plain and simple. | | | |
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CyndiWitczak
Posts:212
| | 03/25/2008 2:18 PM |
Alert | | I know in other communities, the HOAs have looked into cancelling contracts with Orbitel and Maricopa Broadband, but they are 30 year contracts signed by the builders. I don't think there is anything Graham or anyone else can do about it. HOAs don't have the power to change a 30 year contract. 5 elected home owners aren't given that kind of power. Unless Pulte and DR Horton did something less than 30 years, we are paying it for 30 years, and hopefully in the contract, they wrote it so the rate can't be raised. We were told about Orbitel when we signed the contract to purchase and when we paid off our mortgage. | |
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ForensicUnit
Posts:214
| | 03/25/2008 3:53 PM |
Alert | As I stated, I'm looking into it. I make no legal promises. But I asked that Ogden review the contract (which is about 8 pages of legal jargon), to find the exit clause. There very well may not be an exit clause. In which case, I hope Mr Pulte and Mr Horton enjoy the money that Orbitel lined their pockets with.
But, if there is a way to exit the contract, I would be very interested in opinions from the community on whether or not to do so.
-Graham
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jennse29
Posts:158
| | 03/27/2008 2:13 PM |
Alert | | Does anyone know the distribution of the $62.00? | | | |
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ForensicUnit
Posts:214
| | 03/27/2008 2:59 PM |
Alert | Posted By jennse29 on 03/27/2008 2:13 PM
Does anyone know the distribution of the $62.00?
Yes. I am at work right now. My Senita Bible is at home. I will be home at 0100 hours. I will transcribe the budget distribution for you tonight, unless someone beats me to it.
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ForensicUnit
Posts:214
| | 03/28/2008 2:30 AM |
Alert | I had a long day at work. Sorry it took a while to get this up. Here you go! Breakdown of $62 per unit: Expenses: Lawn Vendor $15.03
Pest Control $0.04
Landscape Supplies $2.18
Sprinkler Repair $0.29
L/S Trees/Shrubs $0.18
Other Outdoor/Maint Supplies $0.12 Utilities: Electric $1.45
Water $7.27
Garbage $11$27
Cable TV $15.27 Admin: Legal/Collection $0.15
Printing/Post/Office $0.58
Income Tax $0.02
Audit Expense $0.06
Managment Fees $4.73 Property Tax & Insurance: Property/Income Tax $0.02
Insurance Expense $0.73 Transfer to Reserves $2.61 Anything else I can do for you guys?  -Graham | | | |
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CyndiWitczak
Posts:212
| | 03/28/2008 9:05 AM |
Alert | | I don't think our fees are out of line. There are communities in Maricopa that don't look nearly as nice as ours and pay higher dues. If paying $62.00 a month is such an issue, you may want to reassess your finances. The lady from Ogden said our financial status is actually really good compared to a lot of HOAs in the valley, so perhaps we should be grateful to Ogden for not mismanaging our money. One of the HOAs in Maricopa is about to declare bankruptcy. We definitely have a weed issue. For the most part, our block isn't bad, but some of the homes between ours and Maricopa Groves are in sad shape. | |
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chevyguy
Posts:82
| | 03/28/2008 11:37 AM |
Alert | | I don't think anyone is complaining about the amount of money paid. I could be wrong though and don't feel like re-reading the thread I believe the conerns lie around getting our money worth and being forced to pay for Orbitel (which MANY people do not use). So they pay for something and get nothing in return. Sounds like a sham to me no matter how many LEGAL documents say its ok. | | | |
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alanf
Posts:1462
| | 03/28/2008 12:01 PM |
Alert | Posted By chevyguy on 03/28/2008 11:37 AM
I don't think anyone is complaining about the amount of money paid. I could be wrong though and don't feel like re-reading the thread I believe the conerns lie around getting our money worth and being forced to pay for Orbitel (which MANY people do not use). So they pay for something and get nothing in return. Sounds like a sham to me no matter how many LEGAL documents say its ok.
But that's what makes that argument soooooo silly chevyguy. NOBODY is forced to pay for Orbitel. NOBODY is forced to use ORBITEL. NOBODY!!! They asked you if you wanted it when you signed at CLOSING. It is on every single home in Senita. And every single buyer signed the paper saying YES, I agree to it!
NOBODY was forced to accept sub-prime lending to afford an otherwise unaffordable house. NOBODY was forced to purchase a home in Maricopa and expect a big payoff in a year...but not get it. NOBODY. | | | |
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ForensicUnit
Posts:214
| | 03/28/2008 12:15 PM |
Alert | Posted By CyndiWitczak on 03/28/2008 9:05 AM
I don't think our fees are out of line. There are communities in Maricopa that don't look nearly as nice as ours and pay higher dues. If paying $62.00 a month is such an issue, you may want to reassess your finances. The lady from Ogden said our financial status is actually really good compared to a lot of HOAs in the valley, so perhaps we should be grateful to Ogden for not mismanaging our money. One of the HOAs in Maricopa is about to declare bankruptcy. We definitely have a weed issue. For the most part, our block isn't bad, but some of the homes between ours and Maricopa Groves are in sad shape.
I agree that I think our finances have been spent frugaly so far, which is a good thing. This is what concerns me when I hear people gripe about weeds, and saying the HOA isnt doing anything. Sure, we can clean everyone's yard, every month, but we are gonna be broke within a year. For now, I think we need to rely on Kriss and our neighbors to report violations, and then allow due process to take place. Unfortunately that due process allows for almost a month of waiting time between letters, response, and actions. And that's if we can track down the owner.
Alanf, as far as Orbitel is concerned, I agree with you as well. No one was made to sign a document. However, I am still interested in seeing if we can get out of the contract. Consider it an exploratory committee if you will -Graham | | | |
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CyndiWitczak
Posts:212
| | 03/28/2008 12:56 PM |
Alert | | We weren't given the option, we were told it was part of the HOA. They explained that Orbitel signed a contract with the builder, and we all get free basic cable. We weren't asked if we wanted it, as it wasn't presented as an option. I really don't care. $15.27 isn't breaking the bank. If you are living that close to the edge, don't eat bananas. | |
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alanf
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ForensicUnit
Posts:214
| | 03/28/2008 1:19 PM |
Alert | Posted By alanf on 03/28/2008 1:14 PM That's right Cyndi, if you don't want Orbitel, don't sign for the house! You did have the option not to pay for Orbitel.   Oh, come one now Alan. That seems a bit unfair. Didn't EVERY HOA in Copa sign a contract with Orbitel? I mean, realisticaly, who's not going to move to a town, because you are forced to sign up with a certain cable company. Maybe you love the town, the community, and the house...but not the cable co? Seem's like an honest complaint to me. | | | |
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alanf
Posts:1462
| | 03/28/2008 2:17 PM |
Alert | | I agree that it sucks to have to pay that $15.27 a month if you prefer DirecTV. However, the point is that we agreed to that deal when we bought our homes. Orbitel and Maricopa Broad Band built our entire Cable infrastructure with the agreement that they would have a long term contract. | | | |
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Office Furniture Gal
Posts:6
| | 03/29/2008 11:53 AM |
Alert | I agree 100% with the 1st post!!! I am not saying we can control our neighbors, but I think they should be a little more understanding to the residents who work long days and struggle to maintain their yards. It clear to see who is trying to maintain vs who is not. Our neighborhood looks like the southside of Chicago. We even have a house on our street that has boarded up windows! What???!!!! My neighbors have not pulled weeds in months and it makes my yard look like crap too. What a shame. Our homeowners association has a problem with returning phone calls too. After 4 attempts with leaving messages I finally got a call back. If I ran my business like that they would have yet another abandoned home to deal with. Let's get it together. | | | |
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C&W
Posts:168
| | 03/29/2008 1:20 PM |
Alert | | I suggest we ratify/amend/change current violation steps/procedures. It's too lenient and just too much lag time. I know the time frame has to be "reasonable", but what time frame of warning should be "reasonable"? Do we need to factor in for Kriss and give him time to enforce the codes? | | | |
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pissedparent
Posts:233
| | 03/30/2008 8:48 PM |
Alert | | I think half of the people complaining about the yards are crazy, VRED looks just as dumpy. It's because the homes are unoccupied. I'm mad about paying for cable, cars parking on the street esp if they are work trucks and vans. No lights on the font of houses (it's so dark here.) And my biggest problem is that hideous Senita sign at the entrance, it blew away last year and they put it back up again. Lets get a better looking one up there, and this time let's VOTE on it. | | | |
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chevyguy
Posts:82
| | 03/31/2008 4:35 PM |
Alert | Ok first off...the sub prime thingy is completly different and I agree 100% that no bailout should have been given. Again it goes back to personal responsability. So I see your point there Alan and I do agree. Ok well let me ask another question...don't all NEW communities have to pay the Orbitel fee? I did agree to it at the time because I thought I was backed into a corner. I didn't know there were other communities that didn't pay Orbitel. If they all do pay then where was my choice? If your telling me my choice was to pay Orbitel or choose another City then your talking nonsensical. I received a great deal on my very first house. My wife and I couldn't be happier. Who ever heard of putting up with crap just becasue thats how it is. I was told basic cable was FREE. FREE doesn't equal $15.27. Don't confuse my problem. I'm fine with $62 a month. But not fine with paying for something and getting nothing. Oh well...I still love Copa & Senita. For someone who doesn't watch much TV and loves to read, it hits a nerve. I only have basic channels because I don't watch TV. Has nothing to do with income. Wrong or right...that's my story and I'm sticking to it. lol. | | | |
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chevyguy
Posts:82
| | 03/31/2008 4:40 PM |
Alert | | ooops..that didn't post right. My response was directed to to alanf. | | | |
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