Diesel05
Posts:36

 | | 06/03/2008 10:16 AM |
Alert | Does anyone else hear the little dog barking early in the mornings? I think they live on the first street from the south entrance. Just wondering if any on else shares this frustration. | | | |
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Smokin Ace
Posts:246


 | | 06/09/2008 8:08 AM |
Alert | | Have a friend down there that says they can hear it all the time. They say it gets pretty bad. I have one at the north end too. It is the large dog in the yard behind my house. Lately it likes to barked from 10-11:30 at night. You can't sleep through it either. :-( | | Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. ~Lord Acton | |
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Tio Junior
Posts:172


 | | 06/09/2008 12:15 PM |
Alert | | Put a note on their door and let them know it bothers you - in a nice manner. Hopefully they will bring the dog in earlier in the night or let it out later in the morning. I know my dogs are annoying but I bring them in about 10pm and let them out at 8am or so because if I left them out all night my neighbor's would hate me. | | | |
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Smokin Ace
Posts:246


 | | 06/09/2008 1:38 PM |
Alert | | That's ok Tio because I still hate you LOL Just pulling your leg man. I would rather talk to the people but I can never seem to be home when they are. I am sure they just don't know how much it bugs the neighbors around them and keeps them up. | | Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. ~Lord Acton | |
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jstein1
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 | | 06/09/2008 8:04 PM |
Alert | | Be careful complaining in person about the dog, people can be nutty when confronted. I would leave a note just to be safe. | | | |
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Smokin Ace
Posts:246


 | | 06/10/2008 7:50 AM |
Alert | I am not your average citizen so if the 110lb guy that lives there wants to get nutty more power to him. LOL Dial 911 and make sure you have a witness as to what happens . I think it presented politely and pleasantly there shouldn't be a problem. I do know what you mean though. I would make sure it is not a possibly dangerous situation prior to going to the door. Look at Tio though these are things people should think about when they have pets. He brings his in early and lets them out probably as late as possible. That is a considerate person and well this guy is lacking that skill/trait. So if we politely educate him all should be well.  | | Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. ~Lord Acton | |
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Jackson250
Posts:3

 | | 06/11/2008 12:01 PM |
Alert | | FINALLY...Someone Else Feels My Pain.........I Live Next Door To The 110Lb Guy...This Dog Barks Constantly, and it's directly beside my front door. I cannot go In or Out without this dog Barking Fanatictly, my wife can't even stand on our porch and water her small garden there. The thing is, You Don'T Even Have To Be Out There And It CONSTANTLY BARKS. I Have tried to talk with the Neighbors, but they are "New Yorkers" and feel that it's not "Loud". I contacted the City Ordinance Guy and he sent them a couple of letters, then contacted me back stating that "They were very rude, obnoxious and non compliant, and feel that they're dog is not bothering anyone". The only other thing to do is to file a 3rd complaint he says and "We can take them to Court". I just hadn't had the time lately for Court. And Unfortunately, it's getting worse. | | | |
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KatieS3248
Posts:26

 | | 06/11/2008 12:44 PM |
Alert | | Phew ok it's not my dog. I don't know what phase I'm in I'm not brainy enough to figure that out. But my dog is only outside for small stints during the day. He's indoors at 9pm for the duration of the night. And if he has to go at night I go out and sit with him and he's quiet. He is indoors the majority of the day unless he has to go to the bathroom. And again, he comes right back inside. | | Katie | |
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Babyangel
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 | | 06/13/2008 1:23 AM |
Alert | There was a similar thread about the same issue...not sure if it's about the same dog though. It's under the "general" section...check it out. The headline is "Say NO to dogs barking all night long" or something similar to that. | | | |
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Jackson250
Posts:3

 | | 06/14/2008 8:41 AM |
Alert | Thanks for the info, BabyAngel
Any info on what others are doing or going through helps..I cannot believe how unwilling people are sometimes to recognize the rights of others.. A little bit of common sense and respect is all it takes... Geez!
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Tio Junior
Posts:172


 | | 06/15/2008 5:31 PM |
Alert | | I have a great solution to all of you who have a direct neighbor with a barking dog. My wife just bought a little bird-house looking thing that makes some awful noise for dogs when they bark - humans can't hear it. I have some seriously annoying dogs and they almost quit barking in ONE day. I have tried those noise making collars before and they didn't work. I think she bought it at Target or Wal-mart for $50. I will try and find the exact name and manufacturer. It is also supposed to work if your neighbor's dog is barking constantly - just put it near your fence and it should make the same noise and hopefully stop your neighbor's dog from barking near your house. If my dogs continue to stop barking - I will consider it a miracle because my dogs are seriously a noise nuisance. If it works on my dogs - it will work on any dog. |
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Diesel05
Posts:36

 | | 06/17/2008 2:36 PM |
Alert | | Anyone know how much of an area these "machines" cover? I got to say I am going to be extrmely pissed off if my neighbor buys one of these to control the neghors dog behind me but consequently affects my dogs barking when there is a "reason" to bark. I have 2 guard dogs that only bark if there is a reason, they are both in during the day and one stays out at night time to warn us if there is anything going on. The owners of annoying dogs should muzzle their dogs when they are outside or better yet be a responsible owner and take your dog to an obedience class. Not buy a machine that hurts their dogs when they bark. Thats some great pet ownership there!! | | | |
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Tio Junior
Posts:172


 | | 06/17/2008 4:07 PM |
Alert | Diesel05, did you know that certain breeds of dogs are more prone to barking than others? All 3 of my dogs are under 2 years of age and enjoy running around and barking at each other. I don't have neighbors behind me or on either side of me - or on the other side of the empty houses next to me. I also don't believe that the machine "hurts" the dogs. Simply a sound correction that the dogs do not like. I have had all 3 of my dogs through obedience classes but there wasn't a good solution for barking dogs. Since you seem to be an expert, maybe you can give me a good method to teach them to stop barking? Muzzling my dogs sound like a much better option!!! Give me a break. Maybe I should just beat them until they stop barking? The obedience class teacher said yelling at them doesn't work either because the dogs think you are joining in on the fun. The only option the obedience teacher gave was to squirt them with a water bottle. My lot is 10K sq. ft. and running outside with a water pistol isn't going to get the job done.
Since it sounds like your dogs are perfect, I'm sure you won't have a problem with a neighbor wanting to purchase one of these machines.
I'm sure I will be able to turn my machine off in the next couple days and hopefully my dogs will bark less.
Diesel05 - you can borrow the machine when I'm done with it if you want! | | | |
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Diesel05
Posts:36

 | | 06/17/2008 4:32 PM |
Alert | Let me quote you Tio..."I also don't believe that the machine "hurts" the dogs. Simply a sound correction that the dogs do not like."
Let's think logically about that, the dogs bark and the machine emits a very high frequency noise that only the dogs can hear and then they don't like to bark anymore. But you say it's beacuse they don't like the noise, like it's an annoying noise to a dog!! hmmmm I bet you have the same feeling about the shock collar's don't you. The dogs bark and they don't like the SOUND of the collar shocking them. LOL
Another quote for you..."I don't think obedience classes teach dogs not to bark." and then you followed it up with "The obedience class teacher said yelling at them doesn't work either because the dogs think you are joining in on the fun. The only option the obedience teacher gave was to squirt them with a water bottle."
Sounds to me like the obedience teacher was trying to teach how to control your dogs barking.
This was a good quote to..."Muzzling my dogs sound like a much better option!!! Give me a break. Maybe I shiould just beat them until they stop barking?"
How in the world can you compare a muzzle to beating your dog. Seriously where do you buy your pet supplies from to think that a muzzle hurts your dog?
Also if you can read, I started this thread because my neighbor has dogs that bark all night and leaving notes hasn't worked. Therefore yes I would be upset if another neighbor bought one of these machines to control said neghbors dog but consequesntly affected my "perfect" dogs.
Lastly PM me and give me your address and I will gladly come by and pick that machine up from you!
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Tio Junior
Posts:172


 | | 06/17/2008 5:25 PM |
Alert | Wow Diesel05 - I didn't know an irritating noise was the same as an electrical shock??? That was genius!!!
You don't seem to comprehend what I was getting at with obedience classes not teaching dogs not to bark. When the teacher can only give an option to squirt a dog with a water bottle, and my dogs are 100 feet away from me when they are barking, how can I squirt them with a watter bottle? After I go outside (they stop barking) and then I run over to them and squirt them with a water bottle! Does that seem like it would work? The dogs would have stopped barking by the time I got to them. If I were standing next to them with a water bottle in hand and they barked, then it MIGHT work.
I never said muzzling was the same as beating. I was bringing up different options on what other people would do to try and stop their dogs from barking. You think muzzling a dog is really a nice thing to do to a dog? I'm not saying it hurts them, but I'm sure that would be just as annoying as an irritating noise (if they bark).
And no, I can't read but thanks for noticing. How about going and TALKING to your neighibor if notes aren't working? When I had neighbor's, my neighbor's kids were throwing rocks in my pool. Guess what, I went over and TALKED to my neighbor and she got her kids to stop throwing rocks in my pool. That way I didn't have to bad mouth them on this site or worry about them getting my note.
So since you are such a good dog owner, how do I get my dogs to stop barking without running around the backyard with them with a water bottle in my hand? I still need the machine, so no you can't pick it up.
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Smokin Ace
Posts:246


 | | 06/18/2008 8:27 AM |
Alert | Diesel05- Simple question. Have you ever put a mussel on a dog? I am thinking no since you would then know how it works. Since it restricts them from opening their mouth far enough to bark. So when it is 112 outside and your dog can't open its mouth since you have a mussel on the dog dies and that is ok? I am figuring you don't know how dogs cool themselves do you.... "Dogs pant to regulate body temperature, as dogs have fewer swear glands than humans, and most of their sweat glands are located along the base of their feet. By panting, a dog can cool the mouth and tongue, along with blood which is circulated through the head, keeping body temperature at a safe and normal level. Although dogs pant to control escalating temperature, they cannot protect themselves against extreme heat, and pet owners should carefully monitor their animals during warm weather to prevent heatstroke. When dogs pant heavily during hot weather, it may be a sign of distress." -http://www.wisegeek.com/why-do-dogs-pant.htm- Believe me when my dogs pant they open their mouths farther then when they bark. SOOOO I should mussel my dogs and cause them harm? Why don't you put duck tape on there mouth to keep them really quiet! Seems Tio is about the only one trying to be mindful of his neighbors but yet you attack him. So if your neighbor had put one of these houses up to stop his dog from barking
1. You would probably never know about it
2. You would be happy about no barking dog
3. If your dog was the noise maker you probably would try anything to make it stop if your neighbors hated you for it.
4. You have a dog yet you lack the knowledge of how a dog survives. So can we put a mussel on you and put you outside all day? PS- If your dogs are inside and your neighbors had one of these sound machines your dogs would never hear it inside. FYI | | Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. ~Lord Acton | |
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Diesel05
Posts:36

 | | 06/18/2008 9:29 AM |
Alert | Did I say anything about leaving a dog outside all day muzzled? NO
Did I say anything about leaving a dog outside all day at all? NO
Have I ever put a muzzle on a dog? YES, I am actualy a member of a specific breed dog rescue in AZ
I wasn't attacking anyone originally, I asked what is the radius that these machines work? Because I am against all forms of hurting your dog to "control" them. Be it shock collars, beating, or using a sound machine that hurts your dog so when they bark they do not want to bark again. Because I didn't want it to consequently affect my dogs who are innocent. This machine is very similiar to the type of product you stick in the ground to keep gophers or other rodents out of your yard. It emits a very high frequency noise that scares them away. It's not an annoying noise like your alarm clock is to you in the morning.
Try this TIO, stand next to your machine with your dog next to you and clap hard next to the machine. Look at your dog, and you decide if your dog is thinking...please stop, that is an annoying noise. Or if it looks like your dog puts it's head down and wants to leave as if...please stop, that noise is hurting my very sensitive ears.
Smokin ACE I said at night time one dog is outside and one is inside, not both inside at night time. So yes, because TIO does sound like he is controlling his dog's he also probably brings them in at night time and I'm assuming (if he does GREAT) doesn't turn the machine off. Which would anger me if someone was trying to break into my vehicles in my driveway and my dog can't alert anyone to the problem, or since my neighbors love my dogs and know who they are if there was strange activity at their house my dog can't alert anoyone again because when he barks it hurts. That's all I was stating. It also doesn't sound like Tio's dogs are the problem ones. | | | |
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Diesel05
Posts:36

 | | 06/18/2008 9:54 AM |
Alert | | Alan, if these machines keep away Section 8 and flies, I will install these machines all over the perimeter of my house and keep my dogs inside! LOL | | | |
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Tio Junior
Posts:172


 | | 06/18/2008 10:33 AM |
Alert | Diesel05 - when you wrote: "The owners of annoying dogs should muzzle their dogs when they are outside or better yet be a responsible owner and take your dog to an obedience class. Not buy a machine that hurts their dogs when they bark. Thats some great pet ownership there!!"
Who were you exactly talking to? I would guess me, since I said I have annoying dogs and posted about the noise machine. Then you suggested my dogs need obedience classes, that I'm not a responsible owner, that I hurt my dogs and that I have poor dog ownership.
You weren't "attacking anyone originally" but that changed in your second reply. What type of reply did you expect from me? Like I have said before, I put my dogs in at night so you will never hear them while you are trying to sleep. My dogs are obedient (besides barking) and are inside for the hottest parts of the day, but when I put them out in the morning and in the evening, they run around and bark at each other. It started annoying me and since I do not know a good way to verbally change their behavior, my wife bought a machine that safely and effectively stops barking. If you don't like the machines, call Wal-Mart and complain that they shouldn't sell them.
The machine works up to 50 feet, so since it is in the middle of my backyard (my lot is over 100 feet wide) no other dogs besides mine would be affected.
Nowhere on the box does it have a disclaimer that this machine "hurts" dogs. It says something to the effect of "the dogs do not like the noise." I could have purchased a shock collar, but I don't think shock therapy is the best way to go about it.
I have an alarm system in my house and when the alarm goes off, it is the loudest, most aggravating sound I have ever heard. It doesn't hurt me, but it makes me never want to accidentally set it off. This is the way I look at this machine - aggravating, but not hurtful.
Don't gopher machines make the high frequency sound constantly? This machine doesn't. My 5 year old has gone up to it and screamed and the dogs were right next to her and they didn't run away or put their heads down in a fashion that they were in pain. Obviously I scolded my 5 year old and hopefully she will never do it again.
So I stand by my decision to purchase this machine and it seems to be working. If you don't like it, then I don't know what to tell you. Call animal control or the humane society on me. | | | |
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