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regancolston1214
Posts:210

 | | 08/30/2008 7:17 AM |
Alert | Ok everyone take a deep breath and think of your happy place. Now with that being said, I do not agree with the OP wanting to foreclose just so they can have more "funny" money. But, let's face it, the cost of living is much higher out here in the Copa. We are in a financial crisis at the moment ourselves, and have toyed with the idea of letting our home go. We have tried to work with our mortgage company explaining the situation, and to be honest they could care less. Now my girlfriend has Countrywide for her mortgage company and they are more than happy to work with them. I can feel the Op's frustration with the rising prices. I also understand everyone's anger that is directed at the Op, but in reality I feel that EVERYONE is really angry at the situation that we all are facing and not necessarily the OP. Everyone is struggling right now, and it sucks! The one thing that I really enjoyed about Maricopa was the small town feel, and the residents were very kind and helpful. Now with frustrations high and tempers flaring, people are ready to jump down each others throats. Come on people, can't we all just get along?  | | | |
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| | NY2Copa
Posts:148


 | | 08/30/2008 7:43 AM |
Alert | Being cruel is not going to help anyone make a good and right decision. He posted on this website because he's conflicted and looking for advice. Some of you can be down right mean, that being said ... forclosure is not a good decision. Some things in life require commitment and yes, sacrifice. A home, the American dream is worth holding on to. Let's talk furture for just a minute. you're worried about not having "funny money" now ... your thoughts all seem to be focused on the now. How about in your future? You will not be able to buy another house for a looong time. And don't think the mortgage companies are not on to people buying 2nd houses while still owning the first ... especially if that first is close by and in Maricopa. I know Maricopa isn't necessarily what we all thought it would be when we bought ... but in some ways it's better. Small town over big city ... and being from NY I'll tell you, living close doesn't mean lower prices at all ..... you pay for that location. That being said, think this through, you may not see a ball game now, but I still believe in years down the road, Maricopa will pay off and you'll be glad you didn't completely trash your credit ... which by the way affects much more than your ability to buy big things, but could affect your ability to get insurance and even a job. "There 'aint no such thing as a free lunch!" | | "Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure nineteen six, result happiness. Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure twenty pound ought and six, result misery." -Charles Dickens | |
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| | cholo bandito
Posts:929

 | | 08/30/2008 9:22 AM |
Alert | I don't understand the OP and his motive. Is he bragging or looking for sympathy? | |
I think the concept of god has outlived its usefulness. It is time to put it out of its misery. | |
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| | bmw4242001
Posts:415


 | | 08/30/2008 9:29 AM |
Alert | Posted By regancolston1214 on 08/30/2008 7:17 AM I also understand everyone's anger that is directed at the Op, but in reality I feel that EVERYONE is really angry at the situation that we all are facing and not necessarily the OP. Everyone is struggling right now, and it sucks! The one thing that I really enjoyed about Maricopa was the small town feel, and the residents were very kind and helpful. Now with frustrations high and tempers flaring, people are ready to jump down each others throats. Come on people, can't we all just get along?  My anger and frustration has to do with people buying homes they can't afford and deciding that "walking away" and/or foreclosing is the answer. My family has made sacrifices to live out here but they have nothing to do with the economy crisis we are in. We knew before we moved that we would need to pay more for gas, our vehicles would get more wear and tear, schools aren't all that great but they are doing their job at educating my child, we wouldn't be able to go to as many sporting events as we would like, and on and on. So I guess what I am trying to say is we planned before we moved here. So you can se where my frustration and anger lies. Why is it so hard for others to plan that?
| | Proud Momma of 2 beautiful boys!!! | |
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| | regancolston1214
Posts:210

 | | 08/30/2008 9:41 AM |
Alert | Not everyone is good at planning for things. Also, when did you decide to move here? We have been here for three years now, and yes we DID plan. But there are always cercumstances that are not always your fault, (such as a loss of a job, etc.) Everyone is different, and that is the beauty! No not everyone is going to be just like you! I commend you for all of your hard work and sacrfices that your family has made to live here. Maybe at the time the OP bought his home they could afford it, and then boom "life happened!" Let's try to keep in mind that everyone is struggling and sacrificing, but let's face it Maricopa has not taken off like everyone thought it would. It will still be YEARS before our little city bounces back. Good for all of you who are determined to "stick" it out, and for those who decide that it is not in the best interest for "THEIR FAMILY" to stay here so be it. Wish them well and move on raising your own family, stop worrying about what everyone else is doing. You know the old saying, "When you point a finger at someone else, you have 4 pointing right back at yourself". | | | |
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| | cholo bandito
Posts:929

 | | 08/30/2008 1:43 PM |
Alert | Posted By regancolston1214 on 08/30/2008 9:41 AM Let's try to keep in mind that everyone is struggling and sacrificing, but let's face it Maricopa has not taken off like everyone thought it would. We aren't struggling or sacrificing, life is good. | |
I think the concept of god has outlived its usefulness. It is time to put it out of its misery. | |
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| | NY2Copa
Posts:148


 | | 08/30/2008 2:21 PM |
Alert | Regancolston ... you had me ok until you said this: "...and for those who decide that it is not in the best interest for "THEIR FAMILY" to stay here so be it. Wish them well and move on raising your own family, stop worrying about what everyone else is doing. "
What other people are doing in regards to the real estate market in MY city is my concern, you see it decreases MY property values when FOR SALE signs go up by the masses and when you Forclose on your house because you decided life got in the way of your "funny money" (what is that anyway?) it affects MY property values and MY investment. So for those of you truly experiencing hardship, I'm sincerely sorry. For those of you experiencing what the rest of us are experiencing, that the real estate market took a tumble, but WILL BOUNCE BACK .... instead of waiting it out like the rest of us, ... (no market is up all the time, not real estate or the stock market) you make impulsive decisions to walk away ... then yes ....... it affects me!!!!!!! | | "Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure nineteen six, result happiness. Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure twenty pound ought and six, result misery." -Charles Dickens | |
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| | regancolston1214
Posts:210

 | | 08/30/2008 2:42 PM |
Alert | | NY2Copa, all I was trying to say was if people feel like they could not afford their bills, and it wsa affecting their family do what they feel is right. I am not saying that is alright to "walk away" from your home just because you do not have extra money for tickets to sporting events or whatever recreational activity they want to do. We are in a situation where we barely have enough income to pay all of our necessary bills, and have not had recreational activities in months. Everyone also needs to remember that a great deal of the foreclosed properties were investment properties at first. Alot of people thought that they could make it big in real estate here in Maricopa. I understand that the foreclosures affect everyone's property values. I just think that is very sad that people always get jumped on whenever posting their opinions and called names. Are we all adults on here or kids? | | | |
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| | buzymom
Posts:73

 | | 08/30/2008 3:56 PM |
Alert | | we are actually losing our home. We knew when moving out here about more gas, more wear and tear but the gas prices have went way above what we ever anticipated then my hubby had his hours cut so for us it is better to leave and I don't feel guilty. We have tried to work with the banks to save the home because we worked so hard to get it but there is nothing we can do but move. I honestly had no clue the schools were so bad since my children were young and my son started kindergarten and so far its actually ben a plesant experience. I don't agree in judging those who lose their homes because you don't know there entire sitaution. Its not like we are proud to say we are losing our home...its pretty sad! But its life and the economy has efected us alot! Maybe not others but us. | | | |
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| | NY2Copa
Posts:148


 | | 08/30/2008 5:43 PM |
Alert | | I've NEVER called anyone a name on this site. So I'm guessing you weren't referring to me there .... and as I stated ... for those in "true" hardship, I'm so sorry for the loss of your home ... I was referring to some who may walk when it's not really needed. It's so sad. Hey, we briefly discussed getting out of Maricopa too when things really fell .... but we don't have to ... and since there is no equity, selling is not an option, luckily we love our house and neighbors and have had absolutely no problems with the schools. Would we like to have earned equity in the past 2 years? Yes .... have we? no. But I know we will in time and hey, we all have to live somewhere. Buzymom ... I'm sorry forclosure is happening to you. I hope this is short lived for you and your family and that it turns into a blessing in disguise for you. We are all where we're supposed to be when we're there and the reasons will reveal themselves at the right time. To all of us waiting for things to turn ... this too shall pass. | | "Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure nineteen six, result happiness. Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure twenty pound ought and six, result misery." -Charles Dickens | |
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| | Takingabreak
Posts:352


 | | 08/30/2008 9:43 PM |
Alert | | Buzymom there is a difference between you losing your home and the OP. You are not bragging that you are going into foreclosure because you can't go to sporting events or out to dinner as much. You aren't bragging that you have just decided not to pay the mortgage and continue to live in a house you aren't paying for, but instead will save up the money and buy a $20,000 car ). The OP didn't say unexpected circumstances happened and we just can't afford our house, he says he doesn't want to afford the house because it is an inconvenience. I bet after living in the home all those months without paying the mortgage he will end up stiffing the utility companies and also stripping the house of cabinets, appliances, light fixtures etc and leaving it filthy when he does leave. | | Need a tax write off? Donate to the Maricopa SALVATION ARMY EMERGENCY SERVICES FUND. | |
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| | JAG
Posts:740


 | | 08/31/2008 4:29 AM |
Alert | Posted By Takingabreak on 08/30/2008 9:43 PM
Buzymom there is a difference between you losing your home and the OP. You are not bragging that you are going into foreclosure because you can't go to sporting events or out to dinner as much. You aren't bragging that you have just decided not to pay the mortgage and continue to live in a house you aren't paying for, but instead will save up the money and buy a $20,000 car ). The OP didn't say unexpected circumstances happened and we just can't afford our house, he says he doesn't want to afford the house because it is an inconvenience. I bet after living in the home all those months without paying the mortgage he will end up stiffing the utility companies and also stripping the house of cabinets, appliances, light fixtures etc and leaving it filthy when he does leave. Well said. | | | |
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| | GuyPinestra
Posts:689


 | | 08/31/2008 1:09 PM |
Alert | While I think the OP is making a mistake, I'm not going to jump down his neck over it. The people I'm really angry with are the builders who've dropped their prices on BRAND NEW homes $40K LESS than what they charged me a few years ago for the EXACT same floorplan.
Those bass-turds REALLY tick me off! | | "The seeds of self-destruction are sown in the shallowness of your mind." | |
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| | gizmo
Posts:180

 | | 08/31/2008 3:36 PM |
Alert | So just because the OPs American dream of home ownership doesn't look like the dream that some of you hold then they are bad? Get real. Many of us only look at a house as an investment. When the investment goes south, to protect your financial package you do what you need to do. Its not an emotional decision for a lot of us, its a financial decision. If we bought stock at the same time and the market in which we bought was going to experience problems, dumping that stock may not be a bad idea. You folks that planned so hard and are hanging onto the fact that the market may turn around around, good for you. You just hang in there and maybe sometime in 10 years you will be able to sell your house for what you owe on it. Also when you folks made your "Planned" thought out decision to buy out here it was for either the fact that you bought 3 years ago when there were no houses available anywhere else like Gilbert or you bought in early before that trend so you could take advantage of the low house prices and eventually flip. Not all fall into these categories but most do. You folks need to break out of the paradigm that you need to keep your house because its the American thing to do. The Americans with the money will dump a bad investment quickly and move on. Thats the way it works. Everybody has their own reasons for doing what they do and trying to pin on them the fact that they make your housing value go down is a crock load. If you planned so well at the beginning you should have seen that houses would not keep going up in value in Maricopa and taken appropriate action then so your "neighbor" wouldn't put you in such a bad "perceived" position by having a for sale sign on their house. Just my two cents. | | | |
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| | NY2Copa
Posts:148


 | | 08/31/2008 4:02 PM |
Alert | Gizmo, I'm curious, when you stated: "The Americans with the money will dump a bad investment quickly and move on. Thats the way it works. " I get that .. but do American with money destroy their credit every time an investment goes bad? Is that really the way it works??? Hhhmmm.... AND
"Everybody has their own reasons for doing what they do and trying to pin on them the fact that they make your housing value go down is a crock load. If you planned so well at the beginning you should have seen that houses would not keep going up in value in Maricopa and taken appropriate action then so your "neighbor" wouldn't put you in such a bad "perceived" position by having a for sale sign on their house." I say this with all do respect ... but are you kidding me? The forclosures and mass of FOR SALE's didn't just hurt Maricopa and those who didn't "plan" it, it hurt the entire country ... have you followed any of the presidential election? These guys have platforms that deal with the "housing crisis" there must be something to it. That's an awfully high horse you sit on. Just my two cents. | | "Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure nineteen six, result happiness. Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure twenty pound ought and six, result misery." -Charles Dickens | |
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| | Takingabreak
Posts:352


 | | 08/31/2008 4:36 PM |
Alert | Gizmo there is a difference between walking away from the loan the borrower agreed to pay back and selling stock in a down market. The OP took out a good faith loan, signed the doc that said he will pay this back then decided to walk away because it was an inconvenience and there will be no reprecussions to his decision. We as taxpayers or members of the financing company will now have to pick up his tab.
Buying stock is different, you either need to have the money up front, or if buying on a margin, the investor needs to pay the difference in short selling/dumping etc. I am not responsible if you sell it for loss. Besides most investments will make money over the long run even though they experience ups and downs in the market.
So if the OP wants to have his house foreclosed on fine but he should be responsible for the balance of the loan after the house is sold. | | Need a tax write off? Donate to the Maricopa SALVATION ARMY EMERGENCY SERVICES FUND. | |
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| | pissedparent
Posts:355

 | | 09/01/2008 8:55 PM |
Alert | Posted By regancolston1214 on 08/30/2008 9:41 AM Not everyone is good at planning for things. Also, when did you decide to move here? We have been here for three years now, and yes we DID plan. But there are always cercumstances that are not always your fault, (such as a loss of a job, etc.) Everyone is different, and that is the beauty! No not everyone is going to be just like you! I commend you for all of your hard work and sacrfices that your family has made to live here. Maybe at the time the OP bought his home they could afford it, and then boom "life happened!" Let's try to keep in mind that everyone is struggling and sacrificing, but let's face it Maricopa has not taken off like everyone thought it would. It will still be YEARS before our little city bounces back. Good for all of you who are determined to "stick" it out, and for those who decide that it is not in the best interest for "THEIR FAMILY" to stay here so be it. Wish them well and move on raising your own family, stop worrying about what everyone else is doing. You know the old saying, "When you point a finger at someone else, you have 4 pointing right back at yourself".
I'm not struggling....and I think Maricopa has done great since the three I decided to live here. Wal-Mart will be open in 6 months...so exactly what is wrong with Maricopa?
PS Got a look at the new high school last week....damn fine job to the builders!!! My kids love going there. | | | |
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| | epona
Posts:26


 | | 09/03/2008 6:04 PM |
Alert | | It's just a house. Quality of life is much more important. If you have to pour all your money into your home and necessities with nothing left to enjoy life, it's time for a change in my opinion. | | They put up a bunch of ugly boxes and JESUS people bought em! | |
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| | asugrl
Posts:725

 | | 09/03/2008 6:47 PM |
Alert | | I wonder what the quality of life will be for someone with bad credit for years to come. My parents went into foreclosure when I was young, and their credit has just started to recover. They could only buy a car with cash or take a huge interest rate, never had credit cards after the early 90's, and couldn't get student loans for me. Granted, I am pretty sure they messed up other parts of their credit besides foreclosure...I understand things happen (my dad was laid off when they lost their house), but to come on a message board and brag about it is pathetic. I hope you can pay cash for everything from now on, and don't need to get a loan anytime soon. Have fun. | | | |
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| | gizmo
Posts:180

 | | 09/03/2008 10:09 PM |
Alert | Posted By asugrl on 09/03/2008 6:47 PM
I hope you can pay cash for everything from now on, and don't need to get a loan anytime soon. Have fun. Isn't it best to only pay cash for everything anyway? Seems to me like the safest route to take in buying anything is if you can't afford to pay for it with cash, then don't buy it! This would stop alot of the dumb decisions that folks are making these days. By the way, I am not a proponent of walking away from a house. I am just stating the laws of Arizona and the federal government. Its nice when folks have all the info in hand before they make decisions. Its also fun getting you folks stirred up. Its fun and thats the way I roll. | | | |
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