puppyluv
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 | | 07/16/2008 8:07 PM |
Alert | I have been hearing a lot about section 8 housing in Maricopa and have noticed on some rental postings in the area that they are section 8 approved. I don't know enough about it, but is this something that our city approved? If so, that is not good, not good at all! | | | |
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drummer72
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 | | 07/16/2008 10:56 PM |
Alert | | Oh boy, can't wait until all the idiots read this one... | | "Everything for everyone and nothing for ourselves" | |
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JAG
Posts:740


 | | 07/16/2008 11:27 PM |
Alert | I am not from AZ, so I maybe a little ignorant on the rules for AZ. But Section8 is a state thing, and any landlord can apply for it. They need to meet certain rules and regs, and they get some tax savings as well. Section8 housing is not a bad thing though. Yes it can house some unruley people, but they are the small minority. From my experiance they are just hard working people who got into a rut and trying to get out of it. Some states force towns to have a certain % of sec8 housing as well. | | | |
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Cactus Rob
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RichTig
Posts:0

 | | 07/17/2008 9:36 AM |
Alert | Section 8 is a program so poor people can live in nicer houses than they can afford, instead of staying with their own kind. It gives them no incentive to work harder to get out of the ghetto, because the government pays part of their rent. So, they can be our neighbors. | | | |
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trosales
Posts:169


 | | 07/17/2008 10:14 AM |
Alert | Posted By Cactus Rob on 07/17/2008 7:57 AM JAG .... Section 8 is a federal program administered by Housing and Urban Development (HUD). The program is full of waste and mismanagement like most everything else the federal government operates. www.affordablehousingonline.com/section8housing.asp
Agreed! And to add... Section 8 housing areas are notorious for driving down property values. This is not a small minority, this is across the board.
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buzymom
Posts:73

 | | 07/17/2008 12:15 PM |
Alert | | maricopa already allows section 8. It is for poor people who can't afford a decent place. Where would you rather they live...on the street??? They also have the projects here...DId you know that? My mom is disabled and in a housing program in Casa Grande but they have section 8 here and the same program here. Every city has section 8 well in the PHX metro area. Some people need help! Especially during these economical times. | | | |
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klix76
Posts:95

 | | 07/17/2008 12:25 PM |
Alert | | here is the bad part, our tax dollars contribute and yet you can drive by the Section * crap on Mcdavid road and see a Direct tv dish and cars nicer than regular people so why are we contributing? | | | |
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R/E Appraiser
Posts:62

 | | 07/17/2008 12:45 PM |
Alert | Section 8 housing has less affect on property values individually than short sales, foreclosures, and bank owned properties. The market dictates property values, however, speculation based on prejudice and gossip can influence the actions of market participants in a negative way more so than any other market fact or condition. | | | |
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RichTig
Posts:0

 | | 07/17/2008 12:51 PM |
Alert | They should group the Section 8 people together, like in a camp or something. It doesn't seem fair that I bust my ass and work, while my taxes subsidize these losers rents. If they can't afford to rent a 6 bedroom/4bath house, maybe they should rent an apartment somewhere. Maybe if they didn't have stuff handed to them, that would incentivise them to work harder or even to get a job. | | | |
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MommyMac
Posts:47

 | | 07/17/2008 1:42 PM |
Alert | They should group the Section 8 people together, like in a camp or something. It doesn't seem fair that I bust my ass and work, while my taxes subsidize these losers rents. If they can't afford to rent a 6 bedroom/4bath house, maybe they should rent an apartment somewhere. Maybe if they didn't have stuff handed to them, that would incentivise them to work harder or even to get a job.
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Hunter
Posts:179

 | | 07/17/2008 5:12 PM |
Alert | | My dad owns 8 rental properties in Tempe and 6 are Sect. 8. These are hardworking families and these are the only rentals that aren't trashed when they move out and always pay rent on time. I think sect. 8 is a wonderful program and with the prices of living today I am sure many of us may need help in the future. | | "Nobody cares if you're miserable, so you might as well be happy" | |
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JAG
Posts:740


 | | 07/17/2008 9:27 PM |
Alert | Posted By Cactus Rob on 07/17/2008 7:57 AM JAG .... Section 8 is a federal program administered by Housing and Urban Development (HUD). The program is full of waste and mismanagement like most everything else the federal government operates. www.affordablehousingonline.com/section8housing.asp I know its a HUD, but I really thought that the states ran it, sorta like welfare or medicaid. Could be wrong. | | | |
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RichTig
Posts:0

 | | 07/17/2008 9:59 PM |
Alert | Posted By Hunter on 07/17/2008 5:12 PM
My dad owns 8 rental properties in Tempe and 6 are Sect. 8. These are hardworking families and these are the only rentals that aren't trashed when they move out and always pay rent on time. I think sect. 8 is a wonderful program and with the prices of living today I am sure many of us may need help in the future. Why should they get a handout? Free rent money so they can afford a bigger place. Why don't they try living within their means, like the rest of us? | | | |
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JAG
Posts:740


 | | 07/18/2008 1:41 AM |
Alert | RichTig, Section8 and Welfare were not designed to be handouts, but to equalize the wealth and give oppurtunities to those who are at a disadvantage. Of course it gets abused, and of course its the ones who abuse it that take the limelight. But in the end its actually better for soceity as a whole, I would reccomend reading up on FDRs "New Deal" to get some insight into why the programs are neccesary to have a society such as our own. | | | |
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Pizzaking
Posts:259


 | | 07/18/2008 7:54 AM |
Alert | | Its just another way for the investors to try to save themselves after they destroyed the housing market by trying to make a quick buck. | | Pizzaking Wasnt a member 0 posts | |
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Hunter
Posts:179

 | | 07/18/2008 4:37 PM |
Alert | | Its really sad how close minded and angry people are out here, it really makes me dislike this forum. I'm surprised that of all the things wrong with the world today, people are upset about something like this. Everyone hits hard times at one point or another and can use some help, heck I have for sure. I'm just glad that these type of programs exist so that less people are sleeping in our parks and kids are safe in a warm home rather than in the foster care system. | | "Nobody cares if you're miserable, so you might as well be happy" | |
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*rikimaru*
Posts:497


 | | 07/18/2008 4:52 PM |
Alert | republicans dont like social programs, maybe they are upset that dubya is going to be ousted&grandpa mcsame isnt going to get elected&their will be balance brought back to society. to them as long as they get theirs, they dont care about what happens to anyone else. they dislike helping down on their luck americans, but they absolutely love giving huge tax breaks to multi billion dollars companies. elect an oil man who did a pretty bad job managing his failed businesses&what do you expect to happen other than he cozys up to not only to big oil but also to the Saudi royal family&is basically their pet&yet Barack is the one who has ridiculous chain emails saying HE is the muslim&is gonna bring down america. dubya is the one who has been doing that for almost 8 yrs now........
section 8 isnt all bad, some of it is but some of it isnt. just like with anything, u can make stipulations towards your tenants&have them abide by them or get out. | | listened for, they cannot be heard;looked for, they cannot be seen; felt for, they cannot be touched: old ninja proverb | |
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ROCKmeHARDPLACE
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 | | 07/18/2008 5:23 PM |
Alert | | It is my understanding that Section 8 recipients pay 30% of their income towards housing cost. That's far from a free ride. I think a lot of first time home owners feel a need to put renters in general down in order to make themselves feel superior. I believe Section 8 also monitors the property so if a tenant isn't keeping the place in order they can be evicted. That's a whole lot better than the place sitting empty with weeds knee deep growing everywhere. | | | |
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RichTig
Posts:0

 | | 07/18/2008 6:11 PM |
Alert | Posted By JAG on 07/18/2008 1:41 AM RichTig, Section8 and Welfare were not designed to be handouts, but to equalize the wealth and give oppurtunities to those who are at a disadvantage. Of course it gets abused, and of course its the ones who abuse it that take the limelight. But in the end its actually better for soceity as a whole, I would reccomend reading up on FDRs "New Deal" to get some insight into why the programs are neccesary to have a society such as our own. I do not agree that it makes society better. Its just wealth redistribution. The people who refer to as 'at a disadvantage' should work harder or maybe 2 jobs, instead of getting in line for a HANDOUT. They would appreciate the things my tax dollars buy them more, if they actually had to work for them, like I do. Take from the people who work hard and give it to the losers who don't. Bleeding heart liberals, who went to school and made good money, now feel they need to redistribute it to the unwashed masses to 'help' them. No offense to anyone here who has been on welfare or Section 8 for a SHORT duration, because of some tragedy. However, when you are on handouts for years, you're a loser. | | | |
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