leefamily
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 Alert | Posted By JasonY on 10/03/2007 10:28 AM
"Thou shalt not kill"
Love how that is taken out of context......even if you don't believe in the Commandments the law says you can't murder someone either........
FACT: If a pregnant woman is hit by drunk driver and her with her baby dies, the drunk driver gets hit with two counts of manslaughter.
Love it!!!! JasonY, you are a quick cookie! Or, if a man (Scott Peterson) murders his pregnant wife, he is charged with two counts of murder. Or, there was a guy here in az not too long ago that killed his prego girlfriend and she was only like 3 months prego and he was charged with the murder of that baby. | | | |
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Copa Conscious
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Alert | Posted By Veritas on 10/03/2007 10:21 AM Posted By NEZv69.69 on 10/03/2007 10:17 AM
God did give us the right to have a mind afterall, he just hopes that we will choose the right way. Yes, but he DID NOT give us the right to destroy babies.
But Doctors DO destroy babies by aborting them. Why does your god allow such a travesty to happen? | | | |
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leefamily
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| | 10/03/2007 10:31 AM |
Alert | | As the other Jason posted before in a different thread (i assume you're reading all of them like I am) it's called sin. | | | |
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JasonY
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| | 10/03/2007 10:37 AM |
Alert | | I love how people try to put God in a box. Why does God do this? Why does God not do that? God gave man free will, so when man screws up it's his bad....not God's.......... | |
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Copa Conscious
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| | 10/03/2007 11:34 AM |
Alert | Posted By JasonY on 10/03/2007 10:37 AM
I love how people try to put God in a box. Why does God do this? Why does God not do that? God gave man free will, so when man screws up it's his bad....not God's..........
I love how the 'goddies' use 'free will' whenever there is some tragedy their god doesn't stop.
The Holocaust
Darfur
Bosnia
Slavery
Abortion
Murder
Tidal Waves
Katrina
Rape
Child Molestation
If your god doesn't care for you enough to stop these things, he blows.
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Jason
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| | 10/03/2007 11:39 AM |
Alert | I love how the 'goddies' use 'free will' whenever there is some tragedy their god doesn't stop.
The Holocaust
DarfurBosnia
Slavery
Abortion
Murder
Tidal Waves
Katrina
Rape
Child Molestation
If your god doesn't care for you enough to stop these things, he blows.
If your natural selection hasn't weeded out people that start these wars and environmental conditions that start these disasters, after billions of years...
But Doctors DO destroy babies by aborting them. Why does your god allow such a travesty to happen?
You can't have it both ways. You can't have free will if God were to step in and stop every little thing that goes wrong. Does that work for children? Will they learn anything if they never get burned by their mistakes? | |
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leefamily
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| | 10/03/2007 11:41 AM |
Alert | Posted By Jason on 10/03/2007 11:39 AM I love how the 'goddies' use 'free will' whenever there is some tragedy their god doesn't stop.
The Holocaust
DarfurBosnia
Slavery
Abortion
Murder
Tidal Waves
Katrina
Rape
Child Molestation
If your god doesn't care for you enough to stop these things, he blows. If your natural selection hasn't weeded out people that start these wars and environmental conditions that start these disasters, after billions of years... But Doctors DO destroy babies by aborting them. Why does your god allow such a travesty to happen? You can't have it both ways. You can't have free will if God were to step in and stop every little thing that goes wrong. Does that work for children? Will they learn anything if they never get burned by their mistakes?
I was wondering where you were...
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Copa Conscious
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| | 10/03/2007 11:49 AM |
Alert | Posted By Jason on 10/03/2007 11:39 AM I love how the 'goddies' use 'free will' whenever there is some tragedy their god doesn't stop.
The Holocaust
DarfurBosnia
Slavery
Abortion
Murder
Tidal Waves
Katrina
Rape
Child Molestation
If your god doesn't care for you enough to stop these things, he blows. If your natural selection hasn't weeded out people that start these wars and environmental conditions that start these disasters, after billions of years... But Doctors DO destroy babies by aborting them. Why does your god allow such a travesty to happen? You can't have it both ways. You can't have free will if God were to step in and stop every little thing that goes wrong. Does that work for children? Will they learn anything if they never get burned by their mistakes?
I see your point. Abortion and a kid making a mistake are exactly the same. | | | |
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drummer72
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| | 10/03/2007 11:56 AM |
Alert | Posted By JasonY on 10/03/2007 8:53 AM
One cannot be Pro-choice and be Catholic at the same time. That's like saying you are vegetarian and love cheeseburgers at the same time. I am all for women's rights. Oh yeah, and baby's rights too since they are too young to speak out for themselves.
I did not choose to be Catholic. That's what I was baptised. Don't tell me what I can and can not do.
But it's ok to be a Catholic priest and molest little altar boys? | |
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NEZv69.69
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| | 10/03/2007 11:58 AM |
Alert | Posted By JasonY on 10/03/2007 10:28 AM
FACT: If a pregnant woman is hit by drunk driver and her with her baby dies, the drunk driver gets hit with two counts of manslaughter.
A) Our states are in the business of locking up citizens, not dealing out any sort of true justice.
B) I would think because the fetus was killed without written consent of it's host. A woman can do whatever she wants to fetus all the way up to the point it is pulled out of the vagina. If, the day before she is due...she wants to stick a chainsaw in her uterus and blendarize that things's head...go for it. No woman should have something control their body that doesn't even have a birth certificate.
Now all of you, go do some stupid protestant stuff. Misinterpretting the bible seems to be a big hobby you guys have. | | | |
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NEZv69.69
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| | 10/03/2007 11:59 AM |
Alert | | Did somebody call a fetus a baby?? Please show me where a fetus is issued a birth certificate?? | | | |
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Copa Conscious
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| | 10/03/2007 11:59 AM |
Alert | And girls too. Some of the truly twisted priests molested girls too.
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drummer72
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| | 10/03/2007 12:01 PM |
Alert | Posted By NEZv69.69 on 10/03/2007 10:00 AM
My family is all Catholic. They are also all Pro Choice.
They all realize that their personal beliefs cannot be written into law.
Did you not read JasonY's post NEZv69? We can't be pro choice and catholic. It's like driving on 347 and actually obeying the speed limit. | |
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Copa Conscious
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| | 10/03/2007 12:03 PM |
Alert | | Since when is there a speed limit on the 347 ? | | | |
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NEZv69.69
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| | 10/03/2007 12:06 PM |
Alert | | I don't read posts by names that have "Jason" in them. I feel myself getting retarded if I do. | | | |
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drummer72
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| | 10/03/2007 12:06 PM |
Alert | An embryo has no rights. Rights do not pertain to a potential, only to an actual being. A child cannot acquire any rights until it is born. The living take precedence over the not-yet-living (or the unborn).
— Ayn Rand
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drummer72
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| | 10/03/2007 12:07 PM |
Alert | Doesn't a fetus have a right to be inside the body of the woman?
A fetus does not have a right to be in the womb of any woman, but is there by her permission. This permission may be revoked by the woman at any time, because her womb is part of her body. Permissions are not rights. There is no such thing as the right to live inside the body of another, i.e. there is no right to enslave. Contrary to the opinion of anti-abortion activists (falsely called "pro-lifers" as they are against the right to life of the actual human being involved) a woman is not a breeding pig owned by the state (or church). Even if a fetus were developed to the point of surviving as an independent being outside the pregnant woman's womb, the fetus would still not have the right to be inside the woman's womb. | |
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drummer72
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| | 10/03/2007 12:09 PM |
Alert | Is abortion murder?
Murder is the taking of the life of another human being through the initiation of physical force. Abortion is not murder, because a fetus is not an actual human being—it is a potential human being, i.e. it is a part of the woman. The concept murder only applies to the initiation of physical force used to destroy an actual human being, such as when "pro-life" terrorists bomb abortion clinics.
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drummer72
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| | 10/03/2007 12:11 PM |
Alert | | http://www.abortionisprolife.com/faq.htm#abortion | |
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Copa Conscious
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| | 10/03/2007 12:11 PM |
Alert | Posted By drummer72 on 10/03/2007 12:07 PM
Doesn't a fetus have a right to be inside the body of the woman?
A fetus does not have a right to be in the womb of any woman, but is there by her permission. This permission may be revoked by the woman at any time, because her womb is part of her body. Permissions are not rights. There is no such thing as the right to live inside the body of another, i.e. there is no right to enslave. Contrary to the opinion of anti-abortion activists (falsely called "pro-lifers" as they are against the right to life of the actual human being involved) a woman is not a breeding pig owned by the state (or church). Even if a fetus were developed to the point of surviving as an independent being outside the pregnant woman's womb, the fetus would still not have the right to be inside the woman's womb.
Just as illegal aliens are here because we permit them. They have no 'right' to be here. | | | |
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