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JasonY
Posts:3313
 | | 12/19/2007 1:09 PM |
 Alert | | Everyone is free to practice their religious beliefs, why must people pre-judge others and instantly label them because of what their church stands for? | |
"My favorite health club is the International House of Pancakes" -- Lewis Black | |
| | JasonY
Posts:3313
| | 12/19/2007 3:07 PM |
Alert | OMG, I totally did a typo on the topic title............meant to say "non-mormons" sorry......I guess I am the moron...........  | |
"My favorite health club is the International House of Pancakes" -- Lewis Black | |
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| | MommaToni
Posts:1045
| | 12/19/2007 7:31 PM |
Alert | heh, I thought it was funny......
I think no one has the right to judge and religion is a personal choice and to be honest is no one else's business. People should worry about themselves and not try to push their religion or beliefs on anyone.....
I'm not mormon =) | |
Ppppppbbbbbbssssssssssttttttttt! | |
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| | luv the copa
Posts:192
| | 12/19/2007 9:02 PM |
Alert | | Didn't even notice the typo :o) My best friend growing up (southern baptist girl) use to call me a Moron, so maybe I'm just use to it:o) She was kidding and I knew it. | |
Changing lives one diaper at a time since 1993.
Trecia | |
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| | luv the copa
Posts:192
| | 12/19/2007 9:05 PM |
Alert | | I truly wish I had an answer for that question, Jason. I still believe that most people are just good. Call me Pollyanna, but I have to believe that. Most people I meet are just nice people who just want to do the best they can for themselves and their families. I don't think most people judge. I don't think most people really care what others do. | |
Changing lives one diaper at a time since 1993.
Trecia | |
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| | GilaGuy
Posts:789
| | 12/19/2007 9:11 PM |
Alert | Posted By JasonY on 12/19/2007 1:09 PM
Everyone is free to practice their religious beliefs, why must people pre-judge others and instantly label them because of what their church stands for?
I suppose its one of those "we're all human" things. Most everyone who has their own beliefs has their own prejudices. It's one of the problems with being human. Even the most open-minded among us have things they don't like. Prejudicial behavior runs both ways, you can have someone who doesn't like Mormons just as you can have a Mormon who doesn't like Catholics. It is what it is, I guess.
I figure as long as you separate the person from the religion/politics/race/gender/etc, that's probably the way to go. There are good and bad people of every stripe. | | | |
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|  | Colgate
Posts:642
| | 12/19/2007 9:19 PM |
Alert | | I am not a mormon and I work with 12 mormon girls at my practice and we all seem to get along okay! I respect their belief, don't agree with some of it but, that is their freedom of religion. To each his own. They may feel the same about mine!! | |
Live every day as if it were your last and smile! | |
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| | Bionicbunny
Posts:608
| | 12/19/2007 10:14 PM |
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| | hastings1066
Posts:995
| | 12/19/2007 10:24 PM |
Alert | | Basic human nature - People form groups, political, national, social, economic,racial,and religious (just to name a few). Many then look askance at any not in the group. It's the nature of the beast. | | | |
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| | Bionicbunny
Posts:608
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| 12/19/2007 11:04 PM |
Alert | I don't know. Christians and Jews get along.
I think its the whole mormon/cult thing if you ask me. It kind of puts people off. | | | |
| | | moinmoin
Posts:513
| | 12/20/2007 12:01 AM |
Alert | But don't you think that's the intent of the critics, to poison the well such that "it kind of puts people off?" People's experience with Mormon friends, neighbors, co-workers, etc. is vastly different from the dire picture painted by the "counter-cultists," but then people wonder if at least some of the claims about Mormons might be true, and Mormons are just good at seeming nice and normal, etc.
I'd have to say that Mormons carry more than their share of the load of "getting along." We're not the ones, after all, who host seminars and presentations of "exposés" of other churches, picket other churches' temples and pageants, etc. We are taught as missionaries to be pleasant and to build on common ground. Actually, come to think of it, we're taught to do that as people and human beings, too.
Here are some pictures of protesters from some past Easter pageants at the Mormon temple in Mesa:
http://www.fairlds.org/Anti-Mormons/2004_Mesa_Easter_Pageant.html
http://www.fairlds.org/Anti-Mormons/2003_Mesa_Easter_Pageant.html
What I'd like to know is how people think this type of "outreach" is any kind of effective. I think we Mormons look pretty good by contrast. | | | |
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| | hastings1066
Posts:995
| | 12/20/2007 12:17 AM |
Alert | | Before calling Mormans cult members, remember that to the Roman Empire, all Christians were members of a cult. We need a little more live and let live. By Oden's red beard and Thors hammer, I will not look down on any other religion. | | | |
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| | qwerty
Posts:156
| | 12/20/2007 6:50 AM |
Alert | | I grew up in a small town back east where our family was the only LDS family. We got along just fine with all our neighbors and they respected our beliefs and we respected theirs. I had a friend who even went to Church with me a couple times. His parents didn't mind even though they were Luthern. He never joined the LDS church but he definately respected it and we remain best friends today. Even here in Maricopa, we get a long fine with our neighbors and they know we are LDS. While this forum has quite a few mormon and non-mormon "battles", I think the majority of people don't really care and do respect us. They may not agree with us, but at least they respect us. | | | |
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| | missPolitick
Posts:645
| | 12/21/2007 8:37 AM |
Alert | | I think there are many groups who attack mormons because of the sacred nature of some of the practices. Due to the sacred nature, the details aren't shared with the general public because no one wants their most sacred feelings mocked. I think these other groups make up wild fantasies about these details that they don't know anything about and they just really can't stand that they don't get to know of those things. Thus, the rumors and name calling begins. | |
Despite All My Rage I Am Still Just A Rat In A Cage | |
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| | Takingabreak
Posts:344
| | 12/21/2007 9:19 AM |
Alert | Posted By JasonY on 12/19/2007 1:09 PM
Everyone is free to practice their religious beliefs, why must people pre-judge others and instantly label them because of what their church stands for?
Jason, for the most part I agree with your statement; however NOT as a blanket statement about all religions. Some religions used to and may still require human sacrifices, mutilation of individuals, polygamy, sexual abuse, using illegal drugs etc. So if everyone is allowed to practice their belief, you may be the next in the holy stewpot.
That being said, I don't attend or belong to an LDS church and I also don't understand all these posts on Mormans. I haven't read where they are blowing up roadside diners, the twin towers, holding individuals hostage and brainwashing them until they convert. I don't see where the Morman church is telling their members to park cars in their yards and leave trash in their driveways or cut people off while driving the 347.
Why isn't there more comments on cults like the Children of God, the Door or is it The Open Door, I can't remember which one, or Sun Myung Moon or the Hari Krishna's or some of the mega-"name it and claim it" churches that are only about bringing in the money? | |
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| | stinkerbell2
Posts:0
| | 12/21/2007 10:00 AM |
Alert | I am not a mormon or a moron... I respect others beliefs AS LONG AS THEY RESPECT MINE!! I think people have issues with the in your face type of religion. FOR me I am a spiritual person not a religious person. I used to be a Jehovahs Witness (thats a whole other Oprah) so I understand some of the issues...it took me a very long time to recover (I called it religious detox) to come back to Christ. I hope and pray that I represent HIM in my life...its a struggle but one I am willing to do. I will talk to people if they want but after being a JW it is hard for me to strike up a conversation. When the Missionary guys come by I just tell them Thanks but I have my own faith. When the JW's come by I have to tell them I dissociated myself and to please remove me from the list. There is no reason to be rude or disrespectful BUT when they are insistent and cant take my No ThankYou then I have to step up my firmness in NO THANK YOU and become a bit smart mouthed (As a JW I learned about different religions so I could have an understanding of what others believed when I was talking to them about our beliefs)
I am amazed tho how many Mormons there are here...but then hubby pointed out we are below Utah... | | | |
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| | hastings1066
Posts:995
| | 12/21/2007 10:46 AM |
Alert | | We are SOUTH of Utah - never below Utah!! | | | |
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| | joe_2007
Posts:83
| | 12/21/2007 11:24 AM |
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Mesa was founded by Mormons who came down from Utah. The groups name was Mesa. Many of the street names, (Mesa,Crismon,Alma School), are named after people of the founding group. | | | |
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| | lovecopasometimes
Posts:46
| | 12/28/2007 4:15 PM |
Alert | I don't need to prejudge, I was raised mormon. I get along with mormons, except the ones that keep coming by my house, sending letters, etc.. It seems to me now that I have left the church, mormons don't respect my beliefs. Go "save" somebody that wants to be "saved".
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| | moinmoin
Posts:513
| | 12/29/2007 9:04 AM |
Alert | Hi, lovecopasometimes!
When you say that you "have left the church," do you mean that you no longer consider yourself to be a member, or do you mean that you have completed the process to formally remove your name from the records of the Church? In my experience, most people who want nothing more to do with the Church and don't want any contact of any kind ultimately have actually not had their name removed, and then they get frustrated because they get contact from home and visiting teachers, quorum representatives, the Relief Society, etc.
It's not like we paint a hidden "X" on houses of people who say they don't want contact any more! To ensure no more contact, one must go about having one's name removed; otherwise, one's name remains on the rolls of the Church, and one will have later contact.
This precludes, of course, the missionaries knocking on your door as they go from door-to-door. They don't have some master list (other than their own records) of people who have requested no contact, and they do relay this information to local Church leaders. Even in this case, local leaders are morally obligated to verify this second-hand information themselves, and very rarely do people even then follow the process to have their names removed.
So, I'm curious as to whether you have formally left the Church or not. If so, your receiving of letters and visits would be from individuals acting on their own, and not officially representing the local ward.
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