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| | Author | Messages | |
lovecopasometimes
Posts:46
 | | 11/21/2007 5:22 PM |
 Alert | So, I have not attended the church in over 10 years and am now realizing why I stopped going in the first place. Please, only FORMER mormons I would like to respond. Why did you leave and how old were you? Myself, I was raised in the religion, and left as soon as I was old enough. I NEVER felt welcome or comfortable with the religion and teachings. From my experience, mormons are hypocritical and judgemental. What is your experience?
To add to that, do you attend a church now? I want to start attending a Christian church, any recommendations? Thanks!!!
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| | delby
Posts:0
| | 11/22/2007 9:37 PM |
Alert | | My dad used to tell me a third of a third. Not all 'Mormons' are hipocritical and judgemental. People in general are that way. It is not like god said to be that way. A good recommendation would be to not go to church till you figure out that people are people wether they are christians or not. Hell, I do not go to church very much, and when I do I know that I do not fit in, and I realize that I am not there for people, I am there to praise god. | | | |
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| | megwhit
Posts:119
| | 11/24/2007 9:24 PM |
Alert | I stopped going to church 10 years ago as well. I stopped going because I got pregnant and was not married. The bishop at that time told me that I was not welcome in his church. So I stopped. Other things never sat right with me either but that's another story.
This past week has taught me alot about some spiritual things. With everything im going through the Lord has helped me. This past Sunday a couple brothers from the church came by to bless my mother beforeshe had surgery. Once they got here I could feel God's presence in the room. One of the brothers would not leave until he blessed me as well. When he was done me and him were in tears. There were things that he said that noone knew about me. In the prayer he told me that God wants me back home. From Sunday till now I have met with my new bishop and tomorrow I plan on giving the church one more chance. Im going back.
I left because of he people. People can be mean, vindictive, and horrible. But, not everyone. Not all "mormons" are that way. Im not that way and I was baptised mormon. There are mean, rude people in all churches. You will not find a "perfect church" with perfect people. But, I do hope that you find what you are looking for.
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| | OBG II
Posts:553
| | 11/25/2007 3:21 AM |
Alert | | non former morman posting | |
Some people will do anything to get elected!
IMPALIN' THE LEFT | |
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| | Rooman
Posts:7
| | 11/25/2007 5:33 PM |
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Hi lovecopasometimes,
I am a former mormon who left the mormon church in 2001. I was born into the church and even served a mormon mission from 1998-2000 in the Philippines. I left the mormon for many reasons and for any mormons reading this, I want to get one thing straight: I didn't leave because of some past sin or word of wisdom problem. I know that's what you would like to think, but nothing could be further from the truth. My reasons for leaving deal mainly with the mormon temple ceremony, the book of mormon, DNA evidence, fraudulent claims of the pearl of great price, and how the teachings of the mormon church correspond with the Bible. I do not believe I will become a god. I do not believe that I should cut my own throat from ear to ear or disembowel myself should I divulge the secrets of the temple. Would a loving God ask me to do these horrible things to myself? I think not. I don't believe that I have to earn my salvation through my good works. The reason; Jesus! Jesus alone said that he is the way to salvation, not joseph smith. I put my trust in Him not man.
I do attend a non-denominational Christian church and have been doing so for about 5 yrs. It is amazing how much more sense the Bible makes when I read it as a true believer. I am happy for your decision to leave and look forward to talking with you some more. Please feel free to call me anytime. My wife and I would love to have you over for dinner sometime this week. Just let me know.
Shane Pannell | | | |
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| | lovecopasometimes
Posts:46
| | 11/29/2007 6:21 PM |
Alert | | There have to be more, come on all you ex-mormons! Let your voice be heard. | | | |
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|  | Mommyofthree
Posts:20
| | 11/29/2007 8:49 PM |
Alert | | I am a former member of the LDS church. I left for many reasons, but the most important for me was that I could not reconcile the LDS teachings with the bible. After additional study and some research, I had a very difficult finding evidence for its teachings. I know a lot of LDS members (my second mom growing up is still an active member), and I would be hard pressed to say that they do not believe in Christ. I would agree with Rooman in that the teachings are highly flawed. I may not agree with the LDS faith, but I am certain that there are those in the LDS faith that disagree with me. That's okay too. I know that I made the best decision for me. Oh yah, and on top of everything, I married a wonderful Christian man and we attend a fabulous church here in town, Oasis Life Church. Feel free to pm me if you want to chat about anything at all! =) | | | |
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| | Lady Jane
Posts:54
| | 11/30/2007 9:30 AM |
Alert | Oh, I have had many friends over the years who were mormon and the practices really bothered me. The elitist attitude that theirs was the only way to get to heaven, blah blah blah. (I admit - a lot of churches have this attitude.) The sacred garments, the food supplies, the temple secrecy, etc. I have had many a friend who left the church. One family I grew up with, all four kids left the church when they were of age and now the parents have given up on it as well.
IMO - What the mormon church has going for it - the strong community building and support. What it has against it - everything else. | | | |
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| | justincredible02
Posts:25
| | 11/30/2007 9:52 AM |
Alert | Here is copy of the letter:
This letter is to inform you that I wish to be removed permanently from membership in, and the rolls of, the Mormon Church (Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints). I request that this be done immediately. This is not an action that I take lightly, but it is something I do gladly, as I have found great joy, peace and freedom in my Lord Jesus Christ. I wish the members of the Mormon church well, and will always think of them as fine, upstanding, and loving people. I was an earnest and faithful Mormon for many years. I got married in the Temple, believed in the Church wholeheartedly, and sacrificed for it. The following are a few of my reasons for leaving the Mormon Church. I know they will not be easy for you to read, but please try to do so with an open mind.
I am concerned about discrepancies between what the Church teaches, and the teachings of the Bible. The Mormon church teaches that there are many Gods. The Bible teaches that there is one only. Joseph Smith taught "that God the Father of Jesus Christ had a Father," and that "you may suppose that He had a Father also." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith) Orson Pratt said, "If we should take a million worlds like this and number their particles, we should find that there are more Gods than there are particles of matter in those worlds." (Journal of Discourses, vol.2, page 345) The Bible teaches throughout it's pages of there being only one God. Even the Book of Mormon teaches monotheism:
"And Zeezrom said unto him: Thou sayest there is a true and living God? And Amulek said: Yea there is a true and living God. Now, Zeezrom said: Is there more than one God? And he answered, No." Alma 11:26-30
"...I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end." 3 Nephi 9:18
"so that from the rising of the sun to the place of its setting men may know there is none besides me. I am the LORD and there is no other." Isaiah 45:6
" ...I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is none like me." Isaiah 46:9
"...Is there any God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any." Isaiah 44:8
"Thou, even thou, art LORD alone; thou hast made heaven, the heaven of heavens, with all their host, the earth, and all things that are therein..." Nehemiah 9:6
In closing I wish to tell you my greatest reason for leaving the Mormon Church. It is in finding Jesus Christ. He also found me. He pulled me toward him and made me ready to listen. I tell you, reader of this letter, that he will do the same for you. I pray this for you. It will be my great joy to bring his message to all the people (including Mormons) I can. The Gospel is simply that Christ lived, was crucified for each and every one of every man's sins, and was resurrected on the third day. (1 Corinthians 15:1-8, Galatians 1:8-9) Those who take away from this Gospel; who mock Christ's suffering on the cross by saying that it was not sufficient for all men and all sin; and those who would add to this Gospel legalism, secret (not sacred) ceremonies and signs as condition for salvation are terribly wrong. They are making a literally hellish mistake. Jesus is my hope and my joy. I love him with all my heart, and am glad to let him make of my life what he wants. This is the truth, and I leave it with you in His name.
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| | joe_2007
Posts:83
| | 11/30/2007 12:21 PM |
Alert | Amen!!!
Praise the only true God for pulling you out.
Thank you for this letter. I hope that others will listen.
Joe | | | |
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| | TheBoymaker
Posts:787
| | 11/30/2007 8:53 PM |
Alert | You're going to find judgemental hypocrites in every belief system. It's human nature, not a failure of religion.
I hope you find a place to call a church home. | |
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| | YZRacer
Posts:1596
| | 12/01/2007 10:55 AM |
Alert | Check out Concerned Christians. They are based in Mesa. Wonderful group of people, started by a married couple who saw that as LDS they were living against the Christ of the Bible and left the church. They have devoted their lives to helping, educating and helping other ex-mormons find chuch homes and supporting the life change that comes with leaving "the church".
I'm what some call a "never-mo" and I am very passionate about CC's work. I follow them closely and have enjoyed their publications. | |
If you can't spot the loser, it might be you
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| | papa smurf
Posts:14
| | 12/04/2007 10:18 PM |
Alert | Posted By YZRacer on 12/01/2007 10:55 AM
Check out Concerned Christians. They are based in Mesa. Wonderful group of people, started by a married couple who saw that as LDS they were living against the Christ of the Bible and left the church. They have devoted their lives to helping, educating and helping other ex-mormons find chuch homes and supporting the life change that comes with leaving "the church".
I'm what some call a "never-mo" and I am very passionate about CC's work. I follow them closely and have enjoyed their publications.
That is so sad that any religion or church would base their doctrine and study time teacing and preaching hatred of others. You can sugar coat it as you like but that is what it seems this "church" of yours is based on. I have met so many good mormons. I have to give a big AMEN to the Boymaker's comment. | | | |
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| | kitty8720
Posts:45
| | 12/05/2007 12:36 AM |
Alert | | just a warning, dont ever tell the LDS Church here in copa town that your interested in attending theyre church! they are a evil clan!! | | | |
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| | geewiz
Posts:323
| | 12/05/2007 7:12 AM |
Alert | | I am not an exmormon but my wife is. She left prior to meeting myself. The reason she told me she left was as a female she felt the elders looked down on them as more of an object than a follower. There are things females are not allowed to partake in. The LDS church made her feel iscolated from the true benefits God had to offer. | | | |
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| | AZ Dreaming
Posts:292
| | 12/05/2007 3:40 PM |
Alert | I am not an exmormon, but living in AZ all my life I have been around many of them. Because of this, I learned much about the religion. It is very negative as far as women go and they have the opinion of women as most men did a century ago. They have no real rights, the husband of the house is the "word of God". A woman is to bear children and not much else. They are totally clannish no matter how friendly they may seem on a daily basis with outsiders.
They will go to any length to convert you. They do all their business with other Mormons whenever possible. They are not truly a "Christian" church because for them Joesph Smith is the real prophet, not Christ. The biggest "draw" the church has and uses to get new followers is that they take care of their own. Sooo, if you are willing to sell your soul to have security, then the Mormon church might be for you.
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| | delby
Posts:0
| | 12/08/2007 4:36 PM |
Alert | | last sentence - Sounds like the mafia, doesn't it? | | | |
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| | sewfun
Posts:28
| | 12/08/2007 8:32 PM |
Alert | Posted By AZ Dreaming on 12/05/2007 3:40 PM
I am not an exmormon, but living in AZ all my life I have been around many of them. Because of this, I learned much about the religion. It is very negative as far as women go and they have the opinion of women as most men did a century ago. They have no real rights, the husband of the house is the "word of God". A woman is to bear children and not much else. They are totally clannish no matter how friendly they may seem on a daily basis with outsiders.
They will go to any length to convert you. They do all their business with other Mormons whenever possible. They are not truly a "Christian" church because for them Joesph Smith is the real prophet, not Christ. The biggest "draw" the church has and uses to get new followers is that they take care of their own. Sooo, if you are willing to sell your soul to have security, then the Mormon church might be for you.
And you base your comments on women in the Church not having any rights on what? Where in any official Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints material have you ever seen anything that says that women in the Church have no rights? Where have you read anything published by the Church that says that only men have a say in what goes on in the home? You apparently haven't talked to any Mormon families in our community.
As for Mormons not being Christians, you are way off base. Mormons do believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet. If I am not mistaken, most Christians believe that Moses and Isaiah were prophets (as do Mormons, by the way). This does not take away from the fact that Mormons, like all Christians, look to Jesus as the central point of our salvation. Without Christ there would be no salvation. Christ is the central teaching of the Mormon church. Joseph Smith does not have a higher, or even an equal, position that Jesus Christ in the Mormon church. So, how is it that you thik they are not Christians.
The real interesting thing to me it that this forum continually bashes a religion based on the hearsay of just a few members. Why Mormonism? Why not Islam, or Judaism, or Evangelical Christians? Could it just be that as humans we are likely to fear what we do not completely understand? The way to understand would not be to seek information from disgruntled former members or the hearsay of anonymous people on a forum. Remember the old saying, "If you don't have anything nice to say, then don't say anything at all!" | | | |
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| | AZ Dreaming
Posts:292
| | 12/14/2007 11:21 AM |
Alert | You are right, I do not have any thing good to say about Mormons but I WILL keep saying it. I once had a boss who was Mormom. His wife would come with him to work a couple of times a week and just sit in a chair off to the side and knit or sew all day. She would go get his lunch for him or other errands. She never said a word. Like a little mouse sitting there. But this is only ONE observation I've had. There are plenty of others, but most of all there are the women I know who were once Mormon wifes and the story's they could tell you were unbelievable. There is no room for an independent woman in the Mormon religion.
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| | luv the copa
Posts:185
| | 12/14/2007 2:26 PM |
Alert | | AZ Dreaming - as an LDS woman I will try not to be offended as you are obviously very ignorant to our religion. I will instead just feel sorry for you that you are so bitter and hung up on the way others live. I will say that if you think that there is no room for an independent woman in our religion you have not met as many of us as you claim. I grew up LDS in west Texas baptist country. I was very much the minority and did not understand much about their religion. I did at least show respect to others and try to treat others as I wanted to be treated. It was usually reciprocated back to me. I have found as Joe and I moved around the country in our air force years that people are people and we re-met the same people everywhere we went. There were some that were funny, cranky, ornery, serious, hard workers, judgemental, kind etc. I guess the choice is up to all of us as to whether we want to be bitter about others that we have no control over or we can move on. I have always believed that the energy we spend worrying about what others do and think is so wasted....that person probably doesn't know we think about it or even that we exist. There are good and bad everywhere...but please note from this VERY independent woman, that I do not get that ruffled over your anger, and you should not get so worked up over someone else's life choices....it will just stress you (which is obvious by the venim pouring from your every word) and cause you to die sooner:o) Enjoy life..embrace differences and try to find the good in individual people if you can't find it in their religion. I suppose I should be honored that you are that concerned in my well being to take such a stance on how mistreated you think we are. | |
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