Java Lover
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 Alert | A man went to a barbershop to have his hair cut and his beard trimmed. As the barber began to work, they began to have a good conversation. They talked about so many things and various subjects. When they eventually touched on the subject of God, the barber said, “I don’t believe that God exists.”
“Why do you say that?” asked the customer.
“Well, you just have to go out in the street to realize that God doesn’t exist. Tell me, if God exists, would there be so many sick people? Would there be abandoned children? If God existed, there would be neither suffering nor pain. I can’t imagine a loving God who would allow all of these things.”
The customer thought for a moment, but didn’t respond because he didn’t want to start an argument. The barber finished his job and the customer left the shop.
Just after he left the barbershop, he saw a man in the street with long, stringy, dirty hair and an untrimmed beard. He looked dirty and unkempt. The customer turned back and entered the barber shop again and he said to the barber, “You know what? Barbers do not exist.”
“How can you say that?” asked the surprised barber. “I am here, and I am a barber. And I just worked on you!”
“No!” the customer exclaimed. “Barbers don’t exist because if they did, there would be no people with dirty long hair and untrimmed beards, like that man outside.”
“Ah, but barbers DO exist! That’s what happens when people do not come to me.”
“Exactly!” affirmed the customer. “That’s the point! God, too, DOES exist! That’s what happens when people do not go to Him and don’t look to Him for help. That’s why there’s so much pain and suffering in the world.”
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Jason
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| | 10/26/2007 9:12 PM |
Alert | Excellent analogy!  | |
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ilovesubway
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| | 10/29/2007 12:21 PM |
Alert | | That's retarded. | | | |
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Jason
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| | 10/29/2007 12:34 PM |
Alert | | Care to explain why? | |
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August67
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| | 10/29/2007 1:04 PM |
Alert | Got to say I love it Java.
I wonder why a city forum would have a religion section? I don't get it, would it be to spread the word of God, doubt it.
Most of the time it encourages hate. Believers trying to make believers, and nonbelievers trying to make nonbelievers.
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August67
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| | 10/29/2007 1:07 PM |
Alert | Posted By Jason on 10/29/2007 12:34 PM
Care to explain why?
Why explain it? It is what it is. Why does everything need to be explained?
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Jason
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| | 10/29/2007 1:41 PM |
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Posted By August67 on 10/29/2007 1:07 PM Posted By Jason on 10/29/2007 12:34 PM
Care to explain why? Why explain it? It is what it is. Why does everything need to be explained?
If you're going to simply call something retarded you ought to offer an explanation for why you think it is that way.
"Better to keep your mouth closed and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt."
There is sound reasoning in Java's post. Ilovesubway's is completely lacking in that regard.
In general, things need to be explained because humans are generally curious about how things work and why they work they way they do. It is in our nature to seek an explanation for something. | |
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August67
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| | 10/29/2007 1:52 PM |
Alert | Posted By Jason on 10/29/2007 1:41 PM Posted By August67 on 10/29/2007 1:07 PM Posted By Jason on 10/29/2007 12:34 PM
Care to explain why? Why explain it? It is what it is. Why does everything need to be explained? If you're going to simply call something retarded you ought to offer an explanation for why you think it is that way. "Better to keep your mouth closed and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt." There is sound reasoning in Java's post. Ilovesubway's is completely lacking in that regard. In general, things need to be explained because humans are generally curious about how things work and why they work they way they do. It is in our nature to seek an explanation for something.
Agreed,....But look where you are Jason.
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Jason
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| | 10/29/2007 2:06 PM |
Alert | | What do you mean? | |
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August67
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| | 10/29/2007 2:10 PM |
Alert | Posted By Jason on 10/29/2007 2:06 PM
What do you mean?
What do I mean?
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vinny
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| | 10/29/2007 2:13 PM |
Alert | Posted By Jason on 10/29/2007 12:34 PM
Care to explain why?
if a dirty guy with long hair finds a shower and a barber they are clean with a hair cut
if a poor, sick or otherwise afflicted person finds "god" they still are poor, sick or otherwise afflicted, but plus one invisible friend.
that's why that analogy makes no sense.
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Jason
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| | 10/29/2007 2:18 PM |
Alert | Posted By August67 on 10/29/2007 2:10 PM Posted By Jason on 10/29/2007 2:06 PM
What do you mean? What do I mean?
When you said: "Look where you are Jason" what did you mean? | |
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Jason
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| | 10/29/2007 2:19 PM |
Alert | Posted By vinny on 10/29/2007 2:13 PM Posted By Jason on 10/29/2007 12:34 PM
Care to explain why? if a poor, sick or otherwise afflicted person finds "god" they still are poor, sick or otherwise afflicted, but plus one invisible friend. that's why that analogy makes no sense.
You presuppose that God doesn't exist, therefore your argument is invalid. | |
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August67
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| | 10/29/2007 2:32 PM |
Alert | Posted By Jason on 10/29/2007 2:18 PM Posted By August67 on 10/29/2007 2:10 PM Posted By Jason on 10/29/2007 2:06 PM
What do you mean? What do I mean? When you said: "Look where you are Jason" what did you mean?
That you are in a none personal place. Jesus said Don't hide your light. Shine it on a hill top for all to see.
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Jason
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| | 10/29/2007 2:46 PM |
Alert | I still don't understand what you're getting at...  | |
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August67
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| | 10/29/2007 2:55 PM |
Alert | Posted By Jason on 10/29/2007 2:46 PM I still don't understand what you're getting at... 
Then it may be possible that you never will. See what I am getting at?
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Jason
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| | 10/29/2007 3:03 PM |
Alert | | Yes, I get what you're saying, but I fail to see the applicability to this thread. | |
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August67
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| | 10/29/2007 3:08 PM |
Alert | Posted By ilovesubway on 10/29/2007 12:21 PM
That's retarded.
Who is retarded the one that asks or the one that answers.
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August67
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| | 10/29/2007 3:09 PM |
Alert | Posted By Jason on 10/29/2007 3:03 PM
Yes, I get what you're saying, but I fail to see the applicability to this thread.
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