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Veritas
Posts:250
 | | 10/24/2007 10:08 PM |
 Alert | Posted By ChimneyDuck on 10/24/2007 9:44 PM
Veritas, you scare me.
Just because a god does something does not automatically make it ok. I have the knowledge of good and evil. I can apply this knowledge and make a decision on what is good and what is bad.
No, I do not ... you just say that for the sake of argument. You know better than the insinuation you promote.
Please name one thing that God has done that is "not OK".
Since you have the knowledge of good and evil, how did you come into that knowledge? Is it objective or subjective? | | | |
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| | Jason
Posts:3378
| | 10/24/2007 10:25 PM |
Alert | Posted By Java Lover on 10/19/2007 10:43 PM
The only survivor of a shipwreck was washed up on a small, uninhabited island. He prayed feverishly for God to rescue him.
Everyday he scanned the horizon for help, but none seemed forthcoming. Exhausted, he eventually managed to build a little hut out of driftwood to protect him from the elements, and to store his few possessions.
One day, after scavenging for food, he arrived home to find his little hut in flames, with smoke rolling up to the sky. He felt the worst had happened, and everything was lost. He was stunned with disbelief, grief, and anger He cried out, "God! How could you do this to me?"
Early the next day, he was awakened by the sound of a ship approaching the island! It had come to rescue him! "How did you know I was here?," asked the weary man of his rescuers. "We saw your smoke signal," they re plied.
The Moral of This Story: It's easy to get discouraged when things are going bad, but we shouldn't lose heart, because God is at work in our lives.... even in the midst of our pain and suffering. Remember that the next time your little hut seems to be burning to the ground. It just may be a smoke signal that summons the Grace of God.
P. S. You may want to consider passing this on, because you never know who feels as if their hut is on fire today.
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| | Veritas
Posts:250
| | 10/25/2007 9:13 AM |
Alert | Posted By ChimneyDuck on 10/24/2007 9:44 PM
Veritas, you scare me.
Just because a god does something does not automatically make it ok. I have the knowledge of good and evil. I can apply this knowledge and make a decision on what is good and what is bad.
OK ... let me be clear...
1. I am not talking about "a god"; but rather The God.
2. The God is all-knowing and all-powerful will not (perhaps cannot) do things that are mutually exclusive. For example, the ridiculous making of a rock so big that He can't pick it up. This is nonsense.
3. God is always right because He is also perfectly good.
These are the assumptions (scriptural axioms) that I thought were assumed. | | | |
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| | Veritas
Posts:250
| | 10/25/2007 9:16 AM |
Alert | | Is it good or evil when your hut catches on fire? | | | |
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| | Java Lover
Posts:0
| | 10/25/2007 2:36 PM |
Alert | Posted By Veritas on 10/25/2007 9:16 AM
Is it good or evil when your hut catches on fire?
Depends...was you hut infested with ticks, lice, fleas? Then I would think that it catching fire would be a good thing. 
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| | ChimneyDuck
Posts:222
| | 10/26/2007 10:07 AM |
Alert | Posted By Veritas on 10/24/2007 10:08 PM
No, I do not ... you just say that for the sake of argument. You know better than the insinuation you promote.
You don't think that people following God without a look to their conscience is scary? It scares the bejebbies out of me. Even more so than you might imagine since I don't follow the predominant religion in this country. And you know your history well enough to know what I mean. And don't say that it can't happen here, because it has, many times, and quite recently, and you know it.
You'll probably say that they were led astray, but (to put it into religious terms) how does one know that they were led astray unless they use their brains to determine if they are following God or a deciever? The deceived thought, 100%, that they were following God's will. | |
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|  | Veritas
Posts:250
| | 10/26/2007 12:16 PM |
Alert | Posted By ChimneyDuck on 10/26/2007 10:07 AM Posted By Veritas on 10/24/2007 10:08 PM
No, I do not ... you just say that for the sake of argument. You know better than the insinuation you promote.
You don't think that people following God without a look to their conscience is scary? It scares the bejebbies out of me. Even more so than you might imagine since I don't follow the predominant religion in this country. And you know your history well enough to know what I mean. And don't say that it can't happen here, because it has, many times, and quite recently, and you know it. You'll probably say that they were led astray, but (to put it into religious terms) how does one know that they were led astray unless they use their brains to determine if they are following God or a deciever? The deceived thought, 100%, that they were following God's will.
No, I can't really be sure what you mean since you have not been specific. If you're talking about the nutburgers who say it's okay to kill an abortion doctor because they are murdering, then yes ... that is scary. But if you want to pretend that these whackjobs are representative of Christianity or even theism itself, then I believe that your are being intellectually dishonest as you selectively pick and choose what Christianity and/or theism is all about.
Furthermore, MURDER cannot ever be justified from the Bible. KILLING, however, can be justified when it is lawful. When the Bible says, "Thou shalt not kill", the Hebrew word that is used there is what should have been translated as "murder" if we were doing the translation in todays vernacular. Not even the Old Testament condones the lawless taking of life (murder).
Please be more specific about what you mean.
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