JasonY
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 | | 10/03/2007 2:45 PM |
Alert | Posted By Copa Conscious on 10/03/2007 2:38 PM Posted By JasonY on 10/03/2007 1:31 PM Posted By drummer72 on 10/03/2007 11:56 AM Posted By JasonY on 10/03/2007 8:53 AM One cannot be Pro-choice and be Catholic at the same time. That's like saying you are vegetarian and love cheeseburgers at the same time. I am all for women's rights. Oh yeah, and baby's rights too since they are too young to speak out for themselves. I did not choose to be Catholic. That's what I was baptised. Don't tell me what I can and can not do. But it's ok to be a Catholic priest and molest little altar boys? No it's not ok to molest any children, and those priests should be held accountable to the fullest extent of the law. But to judge an entire religion (ANY religion) based upon the acts of a few is just stereotyping. That would be true, except for the FACT that the church knew what was going on and covered it up, for years. They simply moved priests around like a shell game. Try and find which parish we hid the pedo-priest.
Which is also wrong and despicable. But these crimes also happen in other religions and among non-religious people. Wrong and horrible in all cases. Still, to judge all Catholic priests as child molesters is stereotyping. I don't judge all Muslim sheiks as terrorists. To judge someone because of their race, religion, or whatever is wrong.
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JasonY
Posts:1974


 | | 10/03/2007 2:47 PM |
Alert | Posted By Grilladawg on 10/03/2007 2:38 PM so a fetus has to be issued a birth certificate to deem it as a living being?
What if someone lost their birth certificate? Are they no longer a living being? | | "Your village called.........they're missing their idiot" | |
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Copa Conscious
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 | | 10/03/2007 2:49 PM |
Alert | Yes, you are correct.
Some Catholics drive over people, with their Buick, and keep going.
That doesn't mean they all do it. | | | |
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NEZv69.69
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 | | 10/03/2007 2:52 PM |
Alert | Posted By Copa Conscious on 10/03/2007 2:49 PM Yes, you are correct.
Some Catholics drive over people, with their Buick, and keep going.
That doesn't mean they all do it.
No, we all do it. Seriously...you see an Englishman, drunk and bumbling around...plow him over. | | | |
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Copa Conscious
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 | | 10/03/2007 2:55 PM |
Alert | | I think he was an illegal alien. Its been awhile and I don't feel like Googling it. | | | |
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NEZv69.69
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 | | 10/03/2007 2:57 PM |
Alert | | Sure it was. I'm just telling you what type of people I LIKE TO BEAT UP. | | | |
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JasonY
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 | | 10/03/2007 4:12 PM |
Alert | | What about French people? Or just the English? lol | | "Your village called.........they're missing their idiot" | |
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Veritas
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 | | 10/03/2007 8:36 PM |
Alert | Posted By Copa Conscious on 10/03/2007 12:18 PM Until the fetus shoots out, its still a fetus and can be 'interrupted' at the woman's discretion.
To take that fundamental right away would be tantamount to slavery. The woman would be serving the fetus at its discretion. This is why Evolution is such a despicable thing ... all women have been Naturally Selected for "fetus slavery". Their only means of escape is to kill the fetus. Maybe they should have thought about that before copulating? Oh, but wait ... Natural Selection thought of that for them by making the natural outcome of copulation pregnancy. So, doing the nasty and having a baby because of that is entirely Natural ... but going against Nature is natural?
Your philosophy of "fetus" is one that self destructs. | | | |
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JAG
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 | | 10/04/2007 1:09 AM |
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That would be true, except for the FACT that the church knew what was going on and covered it up, for years.
They simply moved priests around like a shell game. Try and find which parish we hid the pedo-priest.
School districts did this all the time, still do in someplaces. Gov't orgs did as well. It was a differant era where is was just not talked about. | | | |
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AuntieEm
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 | | 10/04/2007 7:58 AM |
Alert | For all of you who are pro-choice, I'm curious to know what you think of a pregnant woman who drinks, smokes and/or does drugs while pregnant. Would you support such actions using the same arguement regarding abortion that a woman should be able to do whatever she wants to her body.
I don't want to get into a big sludge fest, I just want to know what you think. | | I'm walking 60 miles over three days in the Arizona Breast Cancer 3-Day because everyone deserves a lifetime! http://08.the3day.org/goto/emma | |
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drummer72
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 | | 10/04/2007 12:40 PM |
Alert | Posted By AuntieEm on 10/04/2007 7:58 AM For all of you who are pro-choice, I'm curious to know what you think of a pregnant woman who drinks, smokes and/or does drugs while pregnant. Would you support such actions using the same arguement regarding abortion that a woman should be able to do whatever she wants to her body.
I don't want to get into a big sludge fest, I just want to know what you think.
Well, there is a big difference between the two. One does not want the baby(abortion) and the other does want the baby and keeps smoking/drinking. To me that is insane. But, once again, that's her baby and she has to deal with a child that might have birth defects. | | I'd rather live one day as a lion, than my whole life as a lamb. | |
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parrasplaces
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 | | 10/05/2007 10:24 AM |
Alert | | YOU WANT AN AMEN AFTER YOU SUGGESTED A TENT STORE AND PARRASHUTES AS CLOTHING FOR MY FAMILY ON PARENTS FOREM? IM GOING TO PRAY FOR YOU DRUMMER..... | | | |
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parrasplaces
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 | | 10/05/2007 10:25 AM |
Alert | | YOU WANT AN AMEN AFTER YOU SUGGESTED A TENT STORE AND PARRASHUTES AS CLOTHING FOR MY FAMILY ON PARENTS FOREM? IM GOING TO PRAY FOR YOU DRUMMER..... | | | |
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Copa Conscious
Posts:379


 | | 10/05/2007 10:28 AM |
Alert | Posted By JAG on 10/04/2007 1:09 AM
That would be true, except for the FACT that the church knew what was going on and covered it up, for years.
They simply moved priests around like a shell game. Try and find which parish we hid the pedo-priest.
School districts did this all the time, still do in someplaces. Gov't orgs did as well. It was a differant era where is was just not talked about.
Oh, then that's ok then. | | | |
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drummer72
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 | | 10/05/2007 12:37 PM |
Alert | Posted By parrasplaces on 10/05/2007 10:24 AM YOU WANT AN AMEN AFTER YOU SUGGESTED A TENT STORE AND PARRASHUTES AS CLOTHING FOR MY FAMILY ON PARENTS FOREM? IM GOING TO PRAY FOR YOU DRUMMER.....
I'll pray that you get a sense of humor. Sorry. | | I'd rather live one day as a lion, than my whole life as a lamb. | |
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JAG
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 | | 10/05/2007 3:25 PM |
Alert | Posted By Copa Conscious on 10/05/2007 10:28 AM Posted By JAG on 10/04/2007 1:09 AM
That would be true, except for the FACT that the church knew what was going on and covered it up, for years.
They simply moved priests around like a shell game. Try and find which parish we hid the pedo-priest.
School districts did this all the time, still do in someplaces. Gov't orgs did as well. It was a differant era where is was just not talked about. Oh, then that's ok then.
No its not. I think they all should be held accountable. | | | |
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AuntieEm
Posts:159


 | | 10/06/2007 8:59 AM |
Alert | Posted By drummer72 on 10/04/2007 12:40 PM Posted By AuntieEm on 10/04/2007 7:58 AM For all of you who are pro-choice, I'm curious to know what you think of a pregnant woman who drinks, smokes and/or does drugs while pregnant. Would you support such actions using the same arguement regarding abortion that a woman should be able to do whatever she wants to her body.
I don't want to get into a big sludge fest, I just want to know what you think. Well, there is a big difference between the two. One does not want the baby(abortion) and the other does want the baby and keeps smoking/drinking. To me that is insane. But, once again, that's her baby and she has to deal with a child that might have birth defects.
A big difference? I don't see it. A pregnant woman is a pregnant woman. | | I'm walking 60 miles over three days in the Arizona Breast Cancer 3-Day because everyone deserves a lifetime! http://08.the3day.org/goto/emma | |
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AuntieEm
Posts:159


 | | 10/06/2007 9:00 AM |
Alert | Posted By AuntieEm on 10/04/2007 7:58 AM For all of you who are pro-choice, I'm curious to know what you think of a pregnant woman who drinks, smokes and/or does drugs while pregnant. Would you support such actions using the same arguement regarding abortion that a woman should be able to do whatever she wants to her body.
I don't want to get into a big sludge fest, I just want to know what you think.
I can't believe no one else has a comment. | | I'm walking 60 miles over three days in the Arizona Breast Cancer 3-Day because everyone deserves a lifetime! http://08.the3day.org/goto/emma | |
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drummer72
Posts:3167


 | | 10/07/2007 7:39 PM |
Alert | Posted By AuntieEm on 10/06/2007 8:59 AM Posted By drummer72 on 10/04/2007 12:40 PM Posted By AuntieEm on 10/04/2007 7:58 AM For all of you who are pro-choice, I'm curious to know what you think of a pregnant woman who drinks, smokes and/or does drugs while pregnant. Would you support such actions using the same arguement regarding abortion that a woman should be able to do whatever she wants to her body.
I don't want to get into a big sludge fest, I just want to know what you think. Well, there is a big difference between the two. One does not want the baby(abortion) and the other does want the baby and keeps smoking/drinking. To me that is insane. But, once again, that's her baby and she has to deal with a child that might have birth defects. A big difference? I don't see it. A pregnant woman is a pregnant woman.
TO want and to NOT want are NOT the same. | | I'd rather live one day as a lion, than my whole life as a lamb. | |
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drummer72
Posts:3167


 | | 10/07/2007 7:41 PM |
Alert | | I decided to start going back to church today and the sermon was about abortion. How ironic!! I haven't been to church for about 4 months. | | I'd rather live one day as a lion, than my whole life as a lamb. | |
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