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JAG
Posts:532
 | | 10/02/2007 7:15 PM |
 Alert | Posted By Jason on 10/02/2007 6:33 PM
So are you missing both eyes by now?
Hehe no. Luckily this is a area that I have no issues with.
But on a serios note. Would you if needed? | | | |
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| | Veritas
Posts:250
| | 10/02/2007 7:20 PM |
Alert | Posted By rex on 10/02/2007 3:47 PM
The Bible is the Word of God. The Word of God says "..gouge it out and throw it away...". No amount of leaping and dancing with tambourine and harp can dispute that.
Therefore, you are legally blind?
You must be ... for in order for you to be true to your own statement, you must have gouged out both of your eyes already. Given that you affirm the fact that "The Bible is the Word of God", and given that you are human, it must be the case that you've lusted after the opposite sex numerous times and have blindly (no pun intended ... OK, I guess I did intend a pun) obeyed God's Word.
Where's the tambourine emoticon?! | | | |
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| | Jason
Posts:3378
| | 10/02/2007 8:02 PM |
Alert | Hehe no. Luckily this is a area that I have no issues with.
Never? Not even once in your entire life? You're sure it hasn't happened even when you weren't aware of it? | |
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| | BeerLeague2
Posts:111
| | 10/02/2007 9:34 PM |
Alert | Posted By Trogdor! on 10/02/2007 4:49 PM
Hmm... You would think that something inspired by "God" would be a lot easier to understand. I know that if I was writing such an important book that would have to stand the test of time, I would make sure that I was as clear and concise as possible.
I hear ya, Trog. And why didn't the dude just write the stuff down himself and eliminate the middle man? That's one inefficient god, if you ask me...(which of course NO ONE did but whatever...) | | | |
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| | Jason
Posts:3378
| | 10/02/2007 9:40 PM |
Alert | Posted By BeerLeague2 on 10/02/2007 9:34 PM Posted By Trogdor! on 10/02/2007 4:49 PM
Hmm... You would think that something inspired by "God" would be a lot easier to understand. I know that if I was writing such an important book that would have to stand the test of time, I would make sure that I was as clear and concise as possible. I hear ya, Trog. And why didn't the dude just write the stuff down himself and eliminate the middle man? That's one inefficient god, if you ask me...(which of course NO ONE did but whatever...)
That'd be great! Oh except for the people that would complain it doesn't address present times. I can see a passage now:
"If thou seeth a woman dressed in a revealing tunic..."
People would say that we don't wear tunics and it doesn't apply.
What's more surprising are people with college degrees in engineering or other sciences that say it's too difficult to understand. | |
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| | JAG
Posts:532
| | 10/02/2007 11:36 PM |
Alert | Posted By Jason on 10/02/2007 8:02 PM Hehe no. Luckily this is a area that I have no issues with. Never? Not even once in your entire life? You're sure it hasn't happened even when you weren't aware of it?
To be honest, not since my conversion. Even then I have only had 1 partner who is my wife which was years before my conversion.
Everyone has their weakness. You just need to reconise it and stay away IMO. Mine is drugs, hate, and greed. | | | |
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|  | rex
Posts:295
| | 10/03/2007 3:47 PM |
Alert | Posted By Veritas on 10/02/2007 7:20 PM Posted By rex on 10/02/2007 3:47 PM
The Bible is the Word of God. The Word of God says "..gouge it out and throw it away...". No amount of leaping and dancing with tambourine and harp can dispute that.
Therefore, you are legally blind? You must be ... for in order for you to be true to your own statement, you must have gouged out both of your eyes already. Given that you affirm the fact that "The Bible is the Word of God", and given that you are human, it must be the case that you've lusted after the opposite sex numerous times and have blindly (no pun intended ... OK, I guess I did intend a pun) obeyed God's Word. Where's the tambourine emoticon?!
Veritas, God has already taken my right eye from me. I am blind in my right eye. He did not give me a chance to gouge it out before I read the passage in the Bible.
Here is another question. If I gouge out my right eye, will I be considered a good Bible following Christian? Or will I be labeled insane? | | | |
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| | JasonY
Posts:2591
| | 10/03/2007 4:03 PM |
Alert | | Depends on if you ate your eye or not after gouging it out..........lol | |
"My favorite health club is the International House of Pancakes" -- Lewis Black | |
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| | Veritas
Posts:250
| | 10/03/2007 8:49 PM |
Alert | Posted By rex on 10/03/2007 3:47 PM
If I gouge out my right eye, will I be considered a good Bible following Christian? Or will I be labeled insane?
No, you will not be a Christian because you gouge out an eye. Salvation comes by grace not gouging. Also, I don't think that self-mutilation is necessarily caused by insanity, but I wouldn't be surprised.
Anyway, as stated countless times (okay, only 13 times), the point of the "gouge out your eye" passage IS NOT to be taken literally ... it's a metaphor for a much bigger idea. | | | |
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| | Copa Conscious
Posts:379
| | 10/04/2007 7:58 AM |
Alert | And 'thou shalt not kill' is a metaphor for a much bigger idea........
You shouldn't take the bible literally.
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| | Veritas
Posts:250
| | 10/05/2007 10:40 AM |
Alert | Posted By Copa Conscious on 10/04/2007 7:58 AM
And 'thou shalt not kill' is a metaphor for a much bigger idea........
You shouldn't take the bible literally.
No, you should take the Bible literally where it's obvious that you should, and metaphorically when it's obvious that you should. To a person who is actually interested in the Truth, it is fairly obvious when the Bible is speaking literally about something versus metaphorically. In addition to being the Word of God, it is also a piece of literature that can be analyzed and understood using well-known forms of literary analysis.
With regard to metaphors for bigger ideas, when Jesus instructs that when we have hatred in our hearts towards another that this is the same as murder, He is setting a higher standard for morality and righteousness. He does not mean that we should all go to jail when we hate someone, it's that the emotion of hate is just as sinful as the action of murder. A perfect and righteous God can not only NOT tolerate the actual sin of murder, but also the attitude of the heart that leads to murder. The "thou shalt not kill" is also from the Old Testament Law that in addition to being a model for righteousness, was also a set of strict civil and moral laws.
Copa, it is my opinion that you are a dishonest skeptic ... NOT that you are a dishonest person elsewhere in your life, but when it comes to topics like these, you just want to "stir the pot" so that there can (1) be no resolution and (2) you can go your merry way pretending that you are thoughtful and right. Your maneuvers are classic sidesteps that occur whenever the point that you were trying to make has been squashed under the weight of reason and fact. | | | |
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| | NEZv69.69
Posts:0
| | 10/05/2007 10:52 AM |
Alert | | If I were a god, which I am, I certainly wouldn't care what the sub-ordinates thought or did. | | | |
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| | Copa Conscious
Posts:379
| | 10/05/2007 10:53 AM |
Alert | Believing there's no God stops me from being solipsistic. I can read ideas from all different people from all different cultures. Without God, we can agree on reality, and I can keep learning where I'm wrong. We can all keep adjusting, so we can really communicate. I don't travel in circles where people say, "I have faith, I believe this in my heart and nothing you can say or do can shake my faith." That's just a long-winded religious way to say, "shut up," or another two words that the FCC likes less. But all obscenity is less insulting than, "How I was brought up and my imaginary friend means more to me than anything you can ever say or do." So, believing there is no God lets me be proven wrong and that's always fun. It means I'm learning something.
Penn Jillette
I agree, with Penn. | | | |
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| | NEZv69.69
Posts:0
| | 10/05/2007 10:59 AM |
Alert | | But in all seriousness...I am a god. | | | |
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| | drummer72
Posts:3645
| | 10/05/2007 9:33 PM |
Alert | Posted By NEZv69.69 on 10/05/2007 10:59 AM
But in all seriousness...I am a god.
God of what?
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"Everything for everyone and nothing for ourselves" | |
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| | JAG
Posts:532
| | 10/05/2007 11:51 PM |
Alert | Posted By drummer72 on 10/05/2007 9:33 PM Posted By NEZv69.69 on 10/05/2007 10:59 AM
But in all seriousness...I am a god. God of what?
Why Pastries of course!
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