wildman
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 Alert | BY THE POSTINGS LATELY YOU CAN SEE HE IS ALIVE AND WELL IN MARICOPA ARIZONA
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"JustJodi"
Posts:617
| | 09/26/2007 4:04 PM |
Alert | Posted By wildman on 09/26/2007 3:38 PM
BY THE POSTINGS LATELY YOU CAN SEE HE IS ALIVE AND WELL IN MARICOPA ARIZONA
JOHN10:10
I TOTALLY missed that verse in the bible!! | |
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HiggsBoson
Posts:641
| | 09/26/2007 4:28 PM |
Alert | Posted By wildman on 09/26/2007 3:38 PM
BY THE POSTINGS LATELY YOU CAN SEE HE IS ALIVE AND WELL IN MARICOPA ARIZONA
JOHN10:10
Really, do you know where he is, I have a soul Im trying to unload.
Thanks,
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Liberalism and capitalism address themselves to the cool, well-balanced mind. They proceed by strict logic, eliminating any appeal to the emotions. Socialism, on the contrary, works on the emotions, tries to violate logical considerations by rousing a sense of personal interest and to stifle the voice of reason by awakening primitive instincts.
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Bionicbunny
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Alert | Posted By HiggsBoson on 09/26/2007 4:28 PM Posted By wildman on 09/26/2007 3:38 PM
BY THE POSTINGS LATELY YOU CAN SEE HE IS ALIVE AND WELL IN MARICOPA ARIZONA
JOHN10:10 Really, do you know where he is, I have a soul Im trying to unload. Thanks, Higgs
What makes you think he isn't already in posession? | | | |
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Michelle
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| | 09/27/2007 10:46 AM |
Alert | He's under my bed. I tried to poke him out with the end of a broom, but all I did was upset my cat.  | |
I used to be Chelle.
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Trogdor!
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| | 09/27/2007 11:21 AM |
Alert | Posted By Bionicbunny on 09/27/2007 10:03 AM
What makes you think he isn't already in posession?
Gotta love it... "fear"
An integral part of both Republican and Christian playbooks. | |
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JAG
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| | 09/27/2007 1:56 PM |
Alert | | Haha, dont forget to add Democrats and everyone else in the entire world. Fear is what makes Humans live. | | | |
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Trogdor!
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| | 09/27/2007 2:04 PM |
Alert | | But not everyone peddles "fear" to garner favor among the populace. | |
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Bionicbunny
Posts:594
| | 09/27/2007 4:19 PM |
Alert | Posted By Trogdor! on 09/27/2007 11:21 AM Posted By Bionicbunny on 09/27/2007 10:03 AM
What makes you think he isn't already in posession? Gotta love it... "fear" An integral part of both Republican and Christian playbooks.
Ahh, passing blame, an integral part of the democratic and liberal play book. Blame someone else for making you feel fear. Excellent example Trogdor, thank you. | | | |
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GilaGuy
Posts:789
| | 09/27/2007 6:18 PM |
Alert | Posted By Trogdor! on 09/27/2007 2:04 PM
But not everyone peddles "fear" to garner favor among the populace.
Oh they absolutely do.
Republicans:
Terrorists are under the bed!
Illegal immigrants are under the bed!
Saddam Hussein's weapons are under the bed!
Homosexuals are under the bed!
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Democrats:
Economy is crashing!
Your jobs are all going to be in India in 2009!
The earth is warming because you use too many lightbulbs!
Whales are disappearing because of your SUV!
The gun in your neighbors safe will magically go off and kill you!
Fearmongering is all part and parcel of our two major parties today. Claiming that only one side engages in such petty and outlandish behavior is being willfully ignorant.
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Trogdor!
Posts:294
| | 09/27/2007 7:40 PM |
Alert | GilaGuy,
The difference being that what you posted about Democrats are wildly inaccurate. The Republican talking points, however, are eerily close to what you posted. | |
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GilaGuy
Posts:789
| | 09/27/2007 7:46 PM |
Alert | Posted By Trogdor! on 09/27/2007 7:40 PM
GilaGuy,
The difference being that what you posted about Democrats are wildly inaccurate. The Republican talking points, however, are eerily close to what you posted.
Not at all. Though your post does have a rather partisan reek to it. If you drink the kool aid (for either party), you cannot be objective in this matter. Only those who shun both sides are able to recognize this distinction.
I was once just as willfully ignorant, wanting to portray my party as the "good" one, and only recognizing the hilarity of the other. Things are much clearer now that I'm a member of neither. | | | |
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Trogdor!
Posts:294
| | 09/27/2007 9:15 PM |
Alert | I was once just as willfully ignorant, wanting to portray my party as the "good" one, and only recognizing the hilarity of the other. Things are much clearer now that I'm a member of neither.
So I'm ignorant?
I'll have you know that I am a member of neither party. I may more openly look down on Republicans, but that's only because they are so much nastier! | |
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GilaGuy
Posts:789
| | 09/27/2007 11:25 PM |
Alert | Posted By Trogdor! on 09/27/2007 9:15 PM
So I'm ignorant?
I'll have you know that I am a member of neither party. I may more openly look down on Republicans, but that's only because they are so much nastier!
Anyone who believes that one side is inherently different than the other in terms of the tricks they play and tactics they use is willfully ignorant.
It is folly that Republicans are "nastier" than Democrats. They may believe in things that you and I find abhorrent, but politicians are politicians, and neither side can claim any moral high ground in terms of how they behave.
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Jason
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Alert | | Besides, how can anyone claim a moral high-ground when the very definition of morals is up for grabs... | |
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Trogdor!
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| | 09/28/2007 2:19 AM |
Alert | GilaGuy:
Anyone who believes that one side is inherently different than the other in terms of the tricks they play and tactics they use is willfully ignorant.
That's funny, I never used the word "inherent" in describing the Republican party. You know what happens when you assume, right GilaGuy?
You do realize that my original comments were tongue-in-cheek, right? This argument's rather pointless (much like the original post). I'm done wasting my time in this thread. | |
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Bionicbunny
Posts:594
| | 09/28/2007 8:18 AM |
Alert | Posted By Trogdor! on 09/27/2007 9:15 PM I was once just as willfully ignorant, wanting to portray my party as the "good" one, and only recognizing the hilarity of the other. Things are much clearer now that I'm a member of neither. So I'm ignorant? I'll have you know that I am a member of neither party. I may more openly look down on Republicans, but that's only because they are so much nastier!
Its so funny that you say that you more openly look down on Republicans. It made me think of the friends and family that I have that are liberals. In general, they take offense to anything that is not alined to what they believe (politically), they blame the Republicans for everything that doesn't go the way they think it should (politically of course) and they look down on anyone elses ideas that aren't the same as theirs. It's kind of sad. I have learned to steer away from any kind of a political or religious conversation with a liberal. They end up red faced and stomping their feet when no one else has said a word. They just have to "think" you don't agree. | | | |
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GilaGuy
Posts:789
| | 09/28/2007 12:53 PM |
Alert | Posted By Trogdor! on 09/28/2007 2:19 AM
You do realize that my original comments were tongue-in-cheek, right? This argument's rather pointless (much like the original post). I'm done wasting my time in this thread. Nope, I hadn't realized that. What I'd seen was more of the same "Republicans are Eeeeevvviiilllll" tripe that we see ad nauseum these days. Taking a verbal swipe at Christians and Republicans is one thing, but doing so without factual basis deserves correction, friend.  | | | |
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CliffinAZ
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| | 09/28/2007 1:15 PM |
Alert | I'm with you GilaGuy; I believe that both parties are pretty corrupt at this point. I see the corruption coming from many places, not only from lobbyist money--the cost of running a campaign in this country is getting out of control--but I'd also argue from voters themselves, who generally vote for the person who dishonestly tells them what they want to hear rather than the person who is honest and willing to predict having to make any sort of a hard choice. Expecting honesty in such circumstances is, in truth, expecting A while rewarding B.
I guess that the second point is always going to be true to some extent just by human nature, although I think it's made worse in this country by the fact that so many people rely on quick soundbites to form opinions about candidates, rather than being willing to invest time by getting off their behinds and truly taking effort to educate themselves about the candidates they're voting for (and I'll be the first to admit that I've done this with some candidates during some elections, and therefore was part of the problem). I also think that a third, strong party would help balance things--the current state of our politics is getting rather cartoonish, and it's sad when so many people have to vote for what they consider "the lesser of two evils" (whichever party that is), rather than for somebody they truly believe will be great for the country. Just my two cents... | | | |
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GilaGuy
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| | 09/28/2007 1:23 PM |
Alert | Posted By CliffinAZ on 09/28/2007 1:15 PM
I also think that a third, strong party would help balance things--the current state of our politics is getting rather cartoonish, and it's sad when so many people have to vote for what they consider "the lesser of two evils" (whichever party that is), rather than for somebody they truly believe will be great for the country. Just my two cents...
You and I agree completely here. It's funny, because we've had the two-party system for so long now that there really aren't very many people who are still alive that remember the last serious challenge posed by "third-way'ers" during the Depression. Most of that wasn't even on a national level, it was the Technocrats trying to campaign in California...they garnered heavy support out of the dissatisfaction people had with their lives during those tough times. Beyond that (and not counting Ross Perot, who was a shill anyway), there really has never been any major attempt by a third party to enter the fray and change the dynamic.
It would appear outwardly that what we've essentially got here is a monopoly in our system that doesn't serve the best interests of the majority of the country. The best thing that could happen now would be a strong run by a third party to shake loose both mainstream parties from their special-interest entrenchments, and get them to adopt new viewpoints. It's not going to happen now (while we're in the midst of deciding if we REALLY want another Clinton...we've had Bushes and Clintons in the White House as President or VP for twenty-six years, for goodness sake), but with any luck, it'll happen soon enough. My guess is that we'd all reap the benefit of a shakeup in our political scene. | | | |
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