Java Lover
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 Alert | Posted By BeerLeague2 on 09/13/2007 8:11 PM
Darn, I really wanted to discuss the book with people who have read it.
Moving on.....
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demonica
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| | 09/13/2007 9:54 PM |
Alert | Posted By BeerLeague2 on 09/13/2007 8:11 PM
Darn, I really wanted to discuss the book with people who have read it.
Moving on.....
i have to say, you've got me curious. could you possibly give a thumbnail of the premise of the book? i am already curious enough to read it, but not right now. at 37 weeks preggo, i am afraid all my reading right now is birthing books cuz, "i don't know nothin' 'bout birthin' no babies, miss scahlett!" | | | |
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Jason
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| | 09/13/2007 10:13 PM |
Alert | | I am sorry BeerLeague. I didn't mean to hijack your thread. | |
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IrishCream
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| | 09/15/2007 9:30 AM |
Alert | Posted By EEE on 09/13/2007 8:44 PM
LOL, it's funny to me how atheist don't want to be associated with "religion", but where do they start a thread to discuss one of their books????????
Anyway, here is a great video on Richard Dawkins
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QERyh9YYEis
I have to agree. Although most commonly accepted topics of this nature would fall under "Religion", the majority of posters to a "Religion" forum feel it is only for Organized Religion. For Scientists, Spiritualists and even Athiests, this is their/our form of "Religion" or belief system so to speak!
Can we get a sub topic for these types of discussions? There is more to religion and beliefs than Christianity and all it's off shoots, Judeism and all other forms of organization.
I'm not trying to offend anyone, but different strokes for different folks, ya know?!
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BeerLeague2
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| | 09/15/2007 11:31 PM |
Alert | Posted By demonica on 09/13/2007 9:54 PM Posted By BeerLeague2 on 09/13/2007 8:11 PM
Darn, I really wanted to discuss the book with people who have read it.
Moving on..... i have to say, you've got me curious. could you possibly give a thumbnail of the premise of the book? i am already curious enough to read it, but not right now. at 37 weeks preggo, i am afraid all my reading right now is birthing books cuz, "i don't know nothin' 'bout birthin' no babies, miss scahlett!"
Demonica, congratulations on your upcoming new addition!
Dawkins' book has been on the NY Time bestseller list for almost a year now and is a pretty amazing read if you like science. He's a evolutionary biologist at Oxford, and in this book, he examines the origins of religion and how superstitious beliefs have survived through natural selection.
That's a huge oversimplification of the book, but you can read more on his website:
http://richarddawkins.net/
There are some pretty active forums on his site, with a lot of great discussions going on.
At any rate, it would be great to read some of his work before your little one gets old enough to ask "Where did we come from?". 
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Jason
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| | 09/15/2007 11:34 PM |
Alert | At any rate, it would be great to read some of his work before your little one gets old enough to ask "Where did we come from?".
At the risk of another thread hi-jacking....
From your reading of this book, what is your opinion of where we and the universe came from? | |
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BeerLeague2
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| | 09/15/2007 11:50 PM |
Alert | Holy cow Jason, if the world's most learned scientists can only speculate, how could I possibly have any sort of answer to that question? I have a freakin' B.A. in Criminal Justice for Pete's sake!
All I know is that I believe in Darwin's theories of evolution and natural selection. I believe in some sort of big bang-type event. Now, I'm at a disadvantage because I was raised as a christian and was only exposed to creationism for my formative years. After studying religion for so long and realizing that is not the "truth", I have been playing catch up for the past few years and trying to find out what exactly is the truth.
I will never know for sure, but maybe if I live another 20 years, I will feel better prepared to give an intelligent response to your question. | | | |
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Jason
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JAG
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| | 09/16/2007 11:02 AM |
Alert | You can still believe in Evolution and Big Bang theory. Both theroies were created by Christians, infact the BBT was created by a priest.
There really is no conflict of those and christianity to be honest. Evolution will never be able to explain Human intelect and self awareness as well. | | | |
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BeerLeague2
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| | 09/16/2007 3:18 PM |
Alert | | LOL! It's on my calendar | | | |
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BeerLeague2
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| | 09/16/2007 3:20 PM |
Alert | Posted By JAG on 09/16/2007 11:02 AM
You can still believe in Evolution and Big Bang theory. Both theroies were created by Christians, infact the BBT was created by a priest.
There really is no conflict of those and christianity to be honest. Evolution will never be able to explain Human intelect and self awareness as well.
I used to think that also...but it's not really accurate.
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Trogdor!
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| | 09/16/2007 3:20 PM |
Alert | Posted By JAG on 09/16/2007 11:02 AM
You can still believe in Evolution and Big Bang theory. Both theroies were created by Christians, infact the BBT was created by a priest.
There really is no conflict of those and christianity to be honest. Evolution will never be able to explain Human intelect and self awareness as well.
Some apes are self aware.. The can look at themselves in the mirror and know it is themselves they are looking at. Self awareness is not exclusive to Home sapiens
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Papa Razi
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| | 09/16/2007 5:53 PM |
Alert | | There is no theory of evolution. Just a list of animals Chuck Norris allows to live. | | | |
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JAG
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| | 09/17/2007 2:00 PM |
Alert | Posted By Trogdor! on 09/16/2007 3:20 PM
Some apes are self aware.. The can look at themselves in the mirror and know it is themselves they are looking at. Self awareness is not exclusive to Home sapiens
Yes and so are some other animals. But there is no real explanation for it in evolutionary terms.
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JAG
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| | 09/17/2007 3:01 PM |
Alert | Posted By BeerLeague2 on 09/16/2007 3:20 PM Posted By JAG on 09/16/2007 11:02 AM
You can still believe in Evolution and Big Bang theory. Both theroies were created by Christians, infact the BBT was created by a priest.
There really is no conflict of those and christianity to be honest. Evolution will never be able to explain Human intelect and self awareness as well. I used to think that also...but it's not really accurate.
Like what?
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JillyBean
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| | 09/17/2007 3:04 PM |
Alert | Posted By JAG on 09/17/2007 2:00 PM Posted By Trogdor! on 09/16/2007 3:20 PM
Some apes are self aware.. The can look at themselves in the mirror and know it is themselves they are looking at. Self awareness is not exclusive to Home sapiens Yes and so are some other animals. But there is no real explanation for it in evolutionary terms.
Why do you think human understanding is the end-all-be-all? Just because we, with our puny little brains can't understand it, doesn't mean there isn't a logical reason that is beyond our realm of understanding.
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katycreek
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| | 09/18/2007 11:50 AM |
Alert | | Gonna check it out and get back to you. Ever read any Hugh Ross? | |
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Veritas
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| | 09/24/2007 7:45 AM |
Alert | | BeerLeague2, what is truth and how do we form adequate tests for it? | | | |
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Veritas
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| | 09/24/2007 7:48 AM |
Alert | | Trogdor, how do we know that apes are able to recognize themselves and therefore be "self aware"? | | | |
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Trogdor!
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| | 09/24/2007 10:01 AM |
Alert | Posted By Veritas on 09/24/2007 7:48 AM
Trogdor, how do we know that apes are able to recognize themselves and therefore be "self aware"?
Not only apes, but elephants and dolphins too.
Source: ScienceDaily
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