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06woman
Posts:356
 | | 07/13/2007 6:25 PM |
 Alert | Posted By Michelle on 07/13/2007 5:30 PM Yes — but don't worry! As long as you're a good person, Christianity is okay too. 
Oh, I just love your response!
Yes, it is ok because it is ok for everyone to have their beliefs. Wiccans worship earth and nature. What I know of it is not evil at all and any "spells" that are performed are not for evil doing.
I would equate the "spells" with prayer. It is asking the god(s) or goddess(s) for something positive.
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"Happiness is a journey...not a destination."
"The highest form of ignorance is to reject something you know nothing about." -
Dr. Wayne W. Dyer
This is my son and a Lake Erie sunset. July 8,2007
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| | 06woman
Posts:356
| | 07/13/2007 6:31 PM |
Alert | | Michelle, I agree with your last response as well. Who a person is is more important than what a person believes. | |
"Happiness is a journey...not a destination."
"The highest form of ignorance is to reject something you know nothing about." -
Dr. Wayne W. Dyer
This is my son and a Lake Erie sunset. July 8,2007
Senior Member
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| | LadyAmalthea
Posts:86
| | 07/13/2007 9:29 PM |
Alert | Posted By tirobinson on 07/13/2007 5:44 PM
Do you realize we have become a generation that says every thing is okay as long as your not hurting someone else.
We live our lives and turn our heads and except whatever comes our way.
If you really do not think what your child watches and reads has no effect on them, why do we send our grade school children to school in fear the may get shot??
Or making sure they wear the right clothes so they are not asst with a gang??
In 1945 how many 9 year old children took guns to school because they were mad at there teacher??
In 1945, how many children obediently wore their seatbelts? Or were warned of the dangers of tobacco? Or who knew that Coca-Cola was so named because of its, um, more than caffiene-upper ingredient? 
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"Ain't nothin' but a barn dance, sugar. Ain't nothin' but a round de round" - Sara Tidwell and the High Tops | |
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| | Jason
Posts:3378
| | 07/13/2007 9:38 PM |
Alert | Posted By Michelle on 07/13/2007 6:24 PM
but at the end of the day, what you believe is much less important than who you are.
I'm not sure I get what you're saying here. Isn't what we believe a very big part of who we are? | |
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| | mallardisme
Posts:564
| | 07/15/2007 3:03 AM |
Alert | Gosh, I love this thread.
The question was, "Is Harry Potter evil".
The simple answer is "No".
The books have revitalized reading for kids. The message of the books deals with friendship, resposabilities (Both for personal actions and those of others). Good always wins over evil. Be good to each other. Patience is a virtue. Find out wat is really happening before you speak.
Those sound like pretty good values to me.
The thread has gone down the road a bit to discuss other, non Christian, beliefs.
I pose this question: "Which religeon is the right one?"
I know mine, but I also embrace others. Don't we wage wars over this?
I have many books in my house from the Bible to some that are Pagan. They all say the same thing in the end. "Work together. Be good to each other". That is the message I want my son to know.
Harry Potter has NOTHING to do with religeon. It has the same pull as Harry Blackstone has for Wicca, LOL. | |
Let X=X | |
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| | rattle2
Posts:131
| | 07/15/2007 11:54 AM |
Alert | | LOL.....no Harry Potter is not evil. He is fictional. Watching the daily news has more of a negative effect on people/kids than Harry Potter. | |
Sometimes we just make life to difficult.
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|  | demonica
Posts:850
| | 07/15/2007 12:18 PM |
Alert | | wow, when are the pyres to burn the wiccans on going to be built in maricopa? will y'all be burning other pagans, too, or just wiccans? how about jews? and those oh-so-awful buhddists? news flash, christianity is a baby amongst religions, but that baby has done a whole lot of killing in it's lifespan. BTW, hitler was a christian. | | | |
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| | Jason
Posts:3378
| | 07/15/2007 1:05 PM |
Alert | Posted By demonica on 07/15/2007 12:18 PM
wow, when are the pyres to burn the wiccans on going to be built in maricopa? will y'all be burning other pagans, too, or just wiccans? how about jews? and those oh-so-awful buhddists? news flash, christianity is a baby amongst religions, but that baby has done a whole lot of killing in it's lifespan. BTW, hitler was a christian.
Newsflash: Not everyone that calls themselves a Christian is one.
Newsflash #2: Christianity has a long history in Judaism. It's not as young as you're thinking. | |
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| | demonica
Posts:850
| | 07/15/2007 1:24 PM |
Alert | really jason? who is it that determines whether one is a christian or not? i thought religion was a personal choice, and if one chose to be a christian (or wiccan or whatever) that was up to them. i never realized there was a governing board which determined who is christian and who is not.
and, um, yup, christ (he for whom christianity is named) was himself a jew. but jews do not believe that christ was a savior. so while christianity has roots in judiasm, it is a whole new religion, which was born at or after the birth of christ, by it's own definition. christianity also has roots in other, older, pagan religions. one of the main ways christianity was made palatable to pagans was by incorporating their deities and rituals into christianity. | | | |
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| | michluz87
Posts:2
| | 07/15/2007 1:47 PM |
Alert | Okay, first of all, the type of 'Witchcraft' in Harry Potter is not even possible, its a fictional story. and if your child believes that these spells and creatures are real, well, you should probably send your child to a special doctor. And if you believe it, well, you should probably join. Harry Potter is not evil. Read the book and you will realize that the morals, lessons, and ideals taught in the series are very Christian in nature. JK Rowling is not on a mission to paganize the youth. She was a struggling single mother with creative idea, she wrote a book, and then the book became very popular and she is now extremely successful and children all over the world are reading, learning, and growing because of her books. I don't see the evil in that. The series has been out for how long??? Where are all the little pagans?? I've been reading it for years and i'm not growing horns and i'm still firm in my faith. (also, i agree with the person who pointed out that if its not 'christian' does that make it evil...? Wiccans are good people. i've known a few in my life. don't hate. but they would probably slap you if you compared their beliefs to what JK Rowling created.)
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| | EEE
Posts:374
| | 07/15/2007 2:25 PM |
Alert | BTW, hitler was a christian.
Wrong!
Here are some quotes from Hitler:
"Christianity is an invention of sick brains: one could imagine nothing more senseless, nor any more indecent way of turning the idea of the Godhead into a mockery.... .... When all is said, we have no reason to wish that the Italians and Spaniards should free themselves from the drug of Christianity. Let's be the only people who are immunised against the disease. "
"The reason why the ancient world was so pure, light and serene was that it knew nothing of the two great scourges: the pox and Christianity."
Anybody who makes comments like the above, were never really true Christians. That's like saying when 06woman dies that she was a catholic. Where in reality she is currently an atheist even though she was a catholic earlier in her life. | |
Yeah, it's true- He allowed the fall of man/
But He used it now to exalt the Lamb/
The Lord, who's wise, permits existence of sin/
to be glorified in His forgiveness to men/ | |
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| | tirobinson
Posts:0
| | 07/15/2007 2:46 PM |
Alert | 07/15/2007 4:03 AM Quote Reply Alert
Gosh, I love this thread.
The question was, "Is Harry Potter evil".
The simple answer is "No".
The books have revitalized reading for kids. The message of the books deals with friendship, resposabilities (Both for personal actions and those of others). Good always wins over evil. Be good to each other. Patience is a virtue. Find out wat is really happening before you speak.
Those sound like pretty good values to me.
The thread has gone down the road a bit to discuss other, non Christian, beliefs.
I pose this question: "Which religeon is the right one?"
I pose this question: "Which religeon is the right one?"
Eph 4:5-6
(5) One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
Δ] One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
I Tim 3:16
⎜] And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
Dont be mistaken, God is very clear that there is only one church and it is His. And yes while there are great wonderful people in other religions/wicca, there will also be wonderful great people in hell if they do not belive in Jesus.
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| | demonica
Posts:850
| | 07/15/2007 3:10 PM |
Alert | | if 06woman says she is an atheist, then i will call her an athiest. if you say she is an atheist, then i will ask how you presume to know what is in her heart? would you like to tell me what i am, too? | | | |
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| | EEE
Posts:374
| | 07/15/2007 3:16 PM |
Alert | Posted By demonica on 07/15/2007 3:10 PM
if 06woman says she is an atheist, then i will call her an athiest. if you say she is an atheist, then i will ask how you presume to know what is in her heart? would you like to tell me what i am, too?
No, because I haven't engaged you in a conversation to know what you believe. I've talked to 06woman a few times online, and I know she is either an atheist or agnostic from her comments. The point is, she once was something and now she is not, so after she died I'm not going to say "06woman was a catholic" Maybe "06woman was once a catholic." So to say Hitler was a Christian is wrong. | |
Yeah, it's true- He allowed the fall of man/
But He used it now to exalt the Lamb/
The Lord, who's wise, permits existence of sin/
to be glorified in His forgiveness to men/ | |
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| | demonica
Posts:850
| | 07/15/2007 3:27 PM |
Alert | | my question still stands: how can you presume to say what is in the head or heart of another? | | | |
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| | EEE
Posts:374
| | 07/15/2007 3:33 PM |
Alert | Posted By demonica on 07/15/2007 3:27 PM
my question still stands: how can you presume to say what is in the head or heart of another?
By what they say.
Of course they could be putting on a show and lying, but I don't know why they would really waste their time. | |
Yeah, it's true- He allowed the fall of man/
But He used it now to exalt the Lamb/
The Lord, who's wise, permits existence of sin/
to be glorified in His forgiveness to men/ | |
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| | demonica
Posts:850
| | 07/15/2007 3:36 PM |
Alert | | my apologies, i think i misasked my question. i'll try again. i have read this thread and other posts by 06woman on the subject of religion, never have i seen her refer to herself as an atheist. how, then, do you presume to label her as such? | | | |
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| | EEE
Posts:374
| | 07/15/2007 3:44 PM |
Alert | Posted By demonica on 07/15/2007 3:36 PM
my apologies, i think i misasked my question. i'll try again. i have read this thread and other posts by 06woman on the subject of religion, never have i seen her refer to herself as an atheist. how, then, do you presume to label her as such?
I corrected my statement in my next quote by saying atheist or agnostic. Your attempt to change the subject of your false claim was a nice try, but to assume Hitler did what he did in the name was Christ is wrong. | |
Yeah, it's true- He allowed the fall of man/
But He used it now to exalt the Lamb/
The Lord, who's wise, permits existence of sin/
to be glorified in His forgiveness to men/ | |
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| | demonica
Posts:850
| | 07/15/2007 3:54 PM |
Alert | | i never said that hitler did what he did in the name of christ. i said, hitler was a christian. there is a world of difference between those 2 statements. | | | |
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| | Jason
Posts:3378
| | 07/15/2007 5:47 PM |
Alert | Posted By demonica on 07/15/2007 3:54 PM
i never said that hitler did what he did in the name of christ. i said, hitler was a christian. there is a world of difference between those 2 statements.
I'll turn your question on you. If you don't know what was in his heart how do you know he was a Christian? | |
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