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Bionicbunny
Posts:521


 | | 07/16/2008 7:13 PM |
Alert | Posted By love@hm on 07/16/2008 4:33 PM Not really following, but stepping in every once in a while. . . I have to say, I sure am glad I'm Mormon! I'm actually crazy enough I want to KEEP my husband! It would make me so sad to not be married in heaven. . . Which brings up my question: Why bother with marriage on earth if there is no marriage in heaven?
I love my husband also and can't imagine living an eternity without him. I don't think that we could even imagine the beauty and happiness in heaven while we are still on earth. We may not be husband and wife, we may be something even better!
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| | qwerty
Posts:135


 | | 07/16/2008 7:14 PM |
Alert | It is quite possible that it grew faster than he would have anticipated and he got caught up in the hype that it brought to him. At the first official meeting to form the Church, Joseph Smith prophesied that the Church would fill the whole earth. The sudden growth of the Church after that meeting didn’t surprise him at all. He prophesized that it would happen. | | | |
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| | love@hm
Posts:476

 | | 07/16/2008 8:36 PM |
Alert | I think heaven was created for worship, not for marriage. And, I also think that once we get to heaven earthly things will not matter.
I guess I simply do not think of marriage as earthly - I believe it can be a struggle, but I also truly feel it is HEAVENLY in nature. I believe it was given to us and families are given to us as a part of heaven on earth. Not to be lame, but I fully believe Carolyn Hamilton Klopfer had it right when she penned: Home can be a heav'n on earth When we are filled with love,
Bringing happiness and joy, Rich blessing from above,
Warmth and kidness, charity, Safety and security -
Making home a part of heaven, where we want to be. Drawing family near each week We'll keep love burning bright.
Serving Him with cheerful hearts, We'l grow in truth and light.
Parents teach and lead the way, Children honor and obey,
Reaching for our home in heaven, Where we want to stay. Praying daily in our home, We'll feel His love divine;
Searching scriptures faithfully, We'll nourish heart and mind.
Singing hymns of thanks we'll say, "Father help us find the way
Leading to our home in heaven, where we long to stay" Just as God gave us the Holy Spirit - which is a part of Heaven, He gave us our families, families aren't only earthly, they are eternal! I believe we will be worshipping God in heaven too - and I believe we will be doing it as a family. I don't want to just be friends with my husband, if I wanted that I likely wouldn't have married him - and NO I'm not just talking about the physical grandeurs of marriage - but more of the selfless love one develops for someone they truly love. I love him, and I want to continue our lives together after death. THIS is the teaching we have - that together we will worship God as a FAMILY. Not one big party, but a family unit. Emma Smith called to Joseph in her last few minutes of life. My husband's grandmother (in her last minutes) and my grandmother (who is currently in the last stages of life) have talked of seeing their husbands as they get closer to death. FAMILY - God's plan is to be FAMILY together with HIM as the head of the family. I don't know all of how it works, but I know I do not want to give up my sealing to my husband or my children for anything in the world. It is heavenly - quite literally, not earthly. Nothing as good as family comes from worldly things. What is even more wonderful is knowing we can be a family in the presence of God! | | | |
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| | Bionicbunny
Posts:521


 | | 07/16/2008 9:11 PM |
Alert | Posted By love@hm on 07/16/2008 8:36 PM I don't want to just be friends with my husband, if I wanted that I likely wouldn't have married him - and NO I'm not just talking about the physical grandeurs of marriage - but more of the selfless love one develops for someone they truly love. I love him, and I want to continue our lives together after death. THIS is the teaching we have - that together we will worship God as a FAMILY. Not one big party, but a family unit. What is even more wonderful is knowing we can be a family in the presence of God!
Just because you want something to be a certain way doesn't mean it WILL be that way, no matter what religion you practice. I know you don't want "one big party, but a family unit" but when you get there, that "big party" might be just what your soul has been yearning for.
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| | itsadryheat
Posts:229

 | | 07/16/2008 9:21 PM |
Alert
| What is even more wonderful is knowing we can be a family in the presence of God!
If you are before the presence of God, I don't know that this should be forefront on your mind.Have you heard of the Christian band Mercy Me? They have a song titled, "I can only imagine" go to Amazon.com and take a listen...I am not sure what other sources will let you hear the song, but here are the words....When I get to heaven, I will have other things on my mind. Hereis the youtube video link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sw9RnNRrjU I can only imagine
What it will be like,
When I walk by Your side
I can only imagine,
What my eyes will see,
When Your Face is before me
I can only imagine
Yeah
Surrounded by Your Glory,
What will my heart feel
Will I dance for you, Jesus
Or in awe of You, be still
Will I stand in Your presence
Or to my knees will I fall
Will I sing "Hallelujah"
Will I be able to speak at all
I can only imagine
I can only imagine
I can only imagine
When that day comes,
And I find myself standing in the Sun
I can only imagine
When all I will do is forever, forever worship You
I can only imagine
Yeah I can only imagine
Surrounded by Your Glory,
What will my heart feel
Will I dance for you, Jesus
Or in awe of You, be still
Will I stand in Your presence
Or to my knees will I fall
Will I sing "Hallelujah"
Will I be able to speak at all
I can only imagine
Yeah I can only imagine
Surrounded by Your Glory
What will my heart feel
Will I dance for you, Jesus
Or in awe of You, be still
Will I stand in Your presence
Or to my knees will I fall
Will I sing "Hallelujah"
Will I be able to speak at all
I can only imagine
Yeah I can only imagine
I can only imagine
Yeah I can only imagine
I can only imagine
I can only imagine
I can only imagine
When all I do is forever, forever worship You
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| | love@hm
Posts:476

 | | 07/16/2008 11:33 PM |
Alert |
Just because you want something to be a certain way doesn't mean it WILL be that way, no matter what religion you practice.
This is true, but in this area, as with many areas of my faith, I don't just want it, I know it will happen and I expect it, I yearn for it, and I work toward it. I don't just want it to happen, aside from having physical proof it will - I know it will. This is something the spirit has testified to me.
When it comes to knowing what heaven will be like - I cannot say I have felt it completely, but I have had a glimpse within the Lord's Temple. I wish I could explain the peace, comfort, and love someone can feel there. You walk in and your cares of the world disappear, and leaving is difficult as you realize the wonderful warmth you feel will shrink to a small campfire instead of a bonfire.
itsa, Those are beautiful words, thank you for sharing them with me.
When it comes to family being forefront on my mind as I am in the presence of God, I truly believe God would have it no other way. I can worship God WITH my family - sometimes better than I can in private. I simply see no wrong in thinking that my family is important - as a unit to God.
Honestly, I don't understand WHY wanting to live eternally with my family suddenly becomes a bad thing. Can God only be worshipped individually? I understand we gain eternal life on an individual basis - and this I would not argue with, but once we have eternal life why do we need to be by ourselves in our worship of God? We are not alone in our worship on earth. God commands us to marry to have children to raise them in His ways. The family unit is important on earth - How could it not be important in heaven?
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| | qwerty
Posts:135


 | | 07/17/2008 7:20 AM |
Alert | The family unit is important on earth - How could it not be important in heaven? I completely agree. Why else would God (1) create gender (no other purpose here than to bear children), (2) Adam and Eve with one of the first commandments to have children, (3) Christ saying to Mary "Behold thy son" as He wanted Mary to feel like she had "family" after he died, (4) Christ being the SON of God, etc. To me, everything points to family. While our salvation must be done individually, the family unit is divinely created and will continue in Heaven. | | | |
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| | JasonY
Posts:1974


 | | 07/17/2008 7:44 AM |
Alert | | Why do people get so upset about not being married in heaven? The Bible says it ain't going to happen, so get over it. The love you share as a family will be shared with EVERYONE in heaven, no exclusive family units. Just ONE family unit, with everyone giving praise to GOD who let you stay in heaven. You will see all your family members in heaven, don't worry. I am no saint, but I find it strange when certain people quote the Bible only when it is convenient for them. And then everything else is opinion. | | "Your village called.........they're missing their idiot" | |
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| | love@hm
Posts:476

 | | 07/17/2008 8:18 AM |
Alert | We are not upset at the idea of being single. We know we will be married Really, I feel for the people who WANT to be married in heaven, and spend their lives thinking they won't be able to. Because they CAN be married in heaven - forever with their family. I might also suggest, we do not ignore the Bible, we have a different interpretation (which I think has already been explained) but there is no ignoring going on. I once asked my dad to tell my which vs in the scriptures are most important. He asked why I wanted to know and I let him know I wanted to high-light them. He turned to me and said, every scripture is important, and if you high-light the important ones you will soon find the entire book is high-lighted. I learned something very important that day, and I fully believe it. EVERY vs has an important message. None of it should be ignored. We are taught, and the LDS church holds to that in our lives there should be an order of importance: 1. God
2. Family
3. Church service (callings, helping, temple work, etc)
4. Good, wholesome things
5. Good, wholesome things  We do not put our family above God, but family is the next most important thing. Why is it taught this way - because as I said before, we KNOW the family unit is a piece of heaven. We know it was not given to us for use only on earth - what purpose would it have here if it didn't exist in heaven? I mentioned being married in heaven once in passing. She stopped looked at me and said "You believe what?" I showed her The Family Proclamation and she said, "I never thought about being with family, I always imagined living eternity sitting on my own little cloud worshipping God." I guess the difference is, my cloud will have my family on it too! To me, living on my 'own little cloud' is very lonely. It isn't that I don't believe we will be loving everyone in heaven. I do believe that. and I really think it will be 'couples' in heaven, and my kids will still come to visit, KWIM, so the "big party" isn't what I would consider completely wrong, but I do believe my husband and I will still be a couple - sharing a cloud (actually I think heaven will be a busy place! With little time for sitting - but clouds sound OK for now ) Gives me lots of incentive to me nice to him  | | | |
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| | love@hm
Posts:476

 | | 07/17/2008 8:25 AM |
Alert | “The Family: A Proclamation to the World,” Liahona, Oct 1998, 24
We, the First Presidency and the Council of the Twelve Apostles of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, solemnly proclaim that marriage between a man and a woman is ordained of God and that the family is central to the Creator’s plan for the eternal destiny of His children.
All human beings—male and female—are created in the image of God. Each is a beloved spirit son or daughter of heavenly parents, and, as such, each has a divine nature and destiny. Gender is an essential characteristic of individual premortal, mortal, and eternal identity and purpose.
In the premortal realm, spirit sons and daughters knew and worshiped God as their Eternal Father and accepted His plan by which His children could obtain a physical body and gain earthly experience to progress toward perfection and ultimately realize his or her divine destiny as an heir of eternal life. The divine plan of happiness enables family relationships to be perpetuated beyond the grave. Sacred ordinances and covenants available in holy temples make it possible for individuals to return to the presence of God and for families to be united eternally.
The first commandment that God gave to Adam and Eve pertained to their potential for parenthood as husband and wife. We declare that God’s commandment for His children to multiply and replenish the earth remains in force. We further declare that God has commanded that the sacred powers of procreation are to be employed only between man and woman, lawfully wedded as husband and wife.
We declare the means by which mortal life is created to be divinely appointed. We affirm the sanctity of life and of its importance in God’s eternal plan.
Husband and wife have a solemn responsibility to love and care for each other and for their children. “Children are an heritage of the Lord” (Psalms 127:3). Parents have a sacred duty to rear their children in love and righteousness, to provide for their physical and spiritual needs, to teach them to love and serve one another, to observe the commandments of God and to be law-abiding citizens wherever they live. Husbands and wives—mothers and fathers—will be held accountable before God for the discharge of these obligations.
The family is ordained of God. Marriage between man and woman is essential to His eternal plan. Children are entitled to birth within the bonds of matrimony, and to be reared by a father and a mother who honor marital vows with complete fidelity. Happiness in family life is most likely to be achieved when founded upon the teachings of the Lord Jesus Christ. Successful marriages and families are established and maintained on principles of faith, prayer, repentance, forgiveness, respect, love, compassion, work, and wholesome recreational activities. By divine design, fathers are to preside over their families in love and righteousness and are responsible to provide the necessities of life and protection for their families. Mothers are primarily responsible for the nurture of their children. In these sacred responsibilities, fathers and mothers are obligated to help one another as equal partners. Disability, death, or other circumstances may necessitate individual adaptation. Extended families should lend support when needed.
We warn that individuals who violate covenants of chastity, who abuse spouse or offspring, or who fail to fulfill family responsibilities will one day stand accountable before God. Further, we warn that the disintegration of the family will bring upon individuals, communities, and nations the calamities foretold by ancient and modern prophets.
We call upon responsible citizens and officers of government everywhere to promote those measures designed to maintain and strengthen the family as the fundamental unit of society.
This proclamation was read by President Gordon B. Hinckley as part of his message at the General Relief Society Meeting held September 23, 1995, in Salt Lake City, Utah.
http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=f318118dd536c010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD&locale=0&sourceId=69de55c49e0eb010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____&hideNav=1 | | | |
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| | Bionicbunny
Posts:521


 | | 07/17/2008 8:50 AM |
Alert | Genesis 2:5 "and no shrub of the field had yet appeared on the earth and no plant of the field had yet sprung up, for the LORD God had not sent rain on the earth and there was no man to work the ground,"
Adam was made.
Genesis 2:18 "The Lord God said, "It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him."
After this was when God made the beasts and birds. Still no suitable helper was found so he took one of Adams ribs and made a woman.
Genesis 2:24 "For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and they will become one flesh."
For this reason! To be a helper in life on earth. They become one FLESH.
Chapter 3 talks about the serpent and how he is crafty and can put ideas in to your head. Being sealed to the one you love for all eternity sounds so wonderful, I can certainly see how you would want it so badly. I do hope you are right. | | | |
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| | RichTig
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 | | 07/17/2008 9:19 AM |
Alert | Women want to be married in heaven, so their husbands aren't happier than they are. | | | |
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| | moinmoin
Posts:394


 | | 07/17/2008 9:23 AM |
Alert | Posted By itsadryheat on 07/16/2008 4:08 PM Salvation is NOT through Peter Moinmoin. Salvation is through Jesus Christ. Why? Because he died on the cross for our sins. So, when I say go to Jesus Chrsit and look right to the cross, that is what I mean. I think you knew that already however. So, are you saying that salvation is somehow through Peter? Not even he made that claim. Are we talking Peter or Paul here? It doesn't matter, because salvation is not through either. I'm not saying at all that salvation is through Peter, or Joseph Smith, or any other prophet and apostle. I am saying that prophets and apostles and the priesthood authority they hold are essential to our salvation, which is through Jesus Christ. If he authorizes men to act on his behalf, and we reject them or say we have no need of them, we are rejecting Him who sent them.You seem to be arguing that someone back in the time of Peter, James, John, and other apostles could simply have accepted Christ without their ministration at all. Sort of an early-Christian era non-denominational church approach. It's clear, though, that this wouldn't have worked. Philip preached and baptized, but obviously didn't have the authority to give the gift of the Holy Ghost. Peter and John went to Samaria to perform this ordinance: 14 Now when the apostles which were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent unto them Peter and John:
15 Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might receive the Holy Ghost:
16 (For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.) 17 Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Ghost. (Acts 8:14-17) Paul, when he found people who professed belief in Christ and had already been baptized but who clearly not been properly taught by authorized priesthood authority, baptized these people again. 2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost. 3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism. 4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied. (Acts 19:2-6) It is vain to say that we have no need of prophets and apostles; we can simply have a relationship with Jesus. This is true, as far as it goes, but Jesus has so ordered His Church on earth that we need the priesthood authority He established to fully come to Him. Hence, the giving of the sealing and loosing keys of the kingdom to apostles, Christ declaring that the apostles will judge Israel, etc.
"And non-Mormon Christianity is patterned exactly after 'what the Bible says?' Which brand or flavor?"
What do you mean by this? Well, which brand or flavor of non-Mormon Christianity is patterened exactly after "what the Bible says?" The Mennonites? Seventh-day Adventists? Methodists? Lutheran (Missouri Synod or regular)? Four Square Gospel Fellowship? Calvary Chapel/non-denominational? Church of the Nazarene? Christian Science? Episcopal/Anglican? Pentacostal? New Apostolic? Baptist (free or Southern)? Megachurch? Televangelist? Jehovah's Witnesses? Presbyterian? Congregationalist? Assemblies of God? Disciples of Christ? Black liberation churches? Etc., etc. Same Bible, vastly different interpretations. Mormonism is the only branch of Christianity that offers tangible revelations that complement the Bible and burn through all of the interference and static, once one has received confirmation through the Holy Spirit that they are true and from God. | | | |
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| | moinmoin
Posts:394


 | | 07/17/2008 9:31 AM |
Alert | The scriptures' warnings against false prophets necessarily imply the existence of true ones. Don't they? Counterfeits are only effective in the face of the real article.
It seems to me that modern "Bible inerrantists" are attempting to shield themselves from having to wrestle with discerning between true and false prophets. With an infallible closed canon, no discerning is necessary. It seems all very safe, but you run the risk of rejecting the genuine article, just like Jesus' contemporaries who felt secure that they already had "the law and the prohpets." | | | |
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| | love@hm
Posts:476

 | | 07/17/2008 9:53 AM |
Alert | I have a hard time when someone quotes scripture and doesn't point out what it is they are wanting me to see. It is difficult because then I see what *I* see, and not what they are wanting me to see 
However, I noticed the word "flesh" was capped. This puts no change in my belief. Yes, husband and wife are to help each other through this earthly existence and become one flesh. It doesn't say "one flesh" until they die.
We will be resurrected, and our spirits will rejoin our bodies - just as Christ's spirit and body were rejoined. The apostles felt the wounds in His flesh. He is our example, He paved the way for our eternal existence, if He had not been joined with His body - we couldn't be joined with ours, but He was, and we CAN! Our eternal existence will be done in the FLESH. Everyone, no matter what kingdom they are in, no matter if they are in a kingdom - if they lived on earth they will be rejoined with their bodies. So the word flesh does not change my belief, but helps with another 
Sorry no references- crying children 
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| | qwerty
Posts:135


 | | 07/17/2008 11:44 AM |
Alert | The scriptures' warnings against false prophets necessarily imply the existence of true ones. Don't they? Counterfeits are only effective in the face of the real article. Very true. If there were to be NO prophets Christ would have just said "beware of prophets" without prefacing it with "false". | | | |
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| | qwerty
Posts:135


 | | 07/17/2008 12:12 PM |
Alert | JasonY: Why do people get so upset about not being married in heaven? The Bible says it ain't going to happen, so get over it.
That's based on your interpretation of the Bible. I don't interpret those scriptures that way. To explain it better another way, I actually just found someone who had posted a discussion about this on the internet. From what I can tell, this individual is not LDS and has some interesting points around this. I apologize for the long posting of this article, but I hope you will read it and consider how they view these scriptures. I especially like how he points out that Christ frequently refers to his relationship to us and the Church using a marriage analogy. Why would he use an analogy that had an end at death?
Speaking in Parables
Life after death is one of the central teachings of Christianity. Our conception of life after death has a vital influence upon our daily life and our relationship with God. So it might seem strange that the Lord has not told us more about it in the New Testament. But He has reason for not telling us everything at once. He never forces us to believe. He gives the truth to those who are ready to accept it. He guards our freedom above all else, always giving enough truth to make choice possible, but never so much that it forces our belief. There is no point in the Lord revealing more truth to those who are unwilling to believe what they already have. "If I have told you earthly things, and you do not believe, how will you believe if I tell you of heavenly things?" (John 3:12) "If they do not hear Moses and the Prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead." (Luke 16:31)
This is why the Lord so often spoke in parables. Those who were willing to believe would understand the hidden meaning. Others would not. So the Lord told His disciples, "To you it has been given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to the rest it is given in parables; that seeing they may not see, and hearing they may not understand." (Luke 8:10) In fact when speaking with the crowds, the Lord always spoke in parables "as they were able to hear it, and without a parable he did not speak unto them."(Mark 10: 33, 34; Matthew 13:34, 35) There were many things that even the disciples were not ready to believe. Jesus told them, "I have yet many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now.... These things I have spoken to you in figurative language, but the time is coming when I shall no more speak to you in figurative language." (John 16:12, 25)
Looking at the Context
Keeping in mind that the Lord has much more to tell us about life after death than He was able to reveal at the time of the New Testament, let us consider the question of whether there is marriage after death. There are many passages which bear on this question, but there is one verse which often seems to be used to the exclusion of others: "In the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage." (Matthew 22:30) Taken out of context, this passage does seem to say that there is no marriage after death. Very often, however, a careful examination of the context will completely change the meaning of a passage. To be sure that we get the correct meaning of the passage, let us look at the whole context carefully.
The same day the Sadducees, who say there is no resurrection, came to Him and asked Him, saying: "Teacher, Moses said that if a man dies, having no children, his brother shall marry his wife and raise up offspring for his brother. Now there were with us seven brothers. The first dies after he had married, and having no offspring, left his wife to his brother. Likewise the second also, and the third even to the seventh. And last of all the woman died also. Therefore, in the resurrection, whose wife of the seven will she be? For they all had her."
Jesus answered and said to them, "You are mistaken, not knowing the Scriptures nor the power of God. For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like the angels of God in heaven. But concerning the resurrection of the dead, have you not read what was spoken to you by God, saying, `I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob'? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living." And when the multitude heard this, they were astonished at His teaching. (Matthew 22:23-33. See also Mark 12:18-27, Luke 20:27-40)
What Kind of Marriage Does It Mean?
Now let us consider what this passage actually means. Note that marrying and being given in marriage do not refer to the married state, but only to the wedding itself. The question focused on a woman who had married seven times for apparently worldly reasons, with no evidence of having formed a spiritual bond with any of her husbands. The Sadducees were not talking about a true marriage, but merely about a legal ritual&emdash;an outward coupling without the inner meaning.
The Lord answered their question in terms of their own idea of marriage, which was quite different than ours is today. In those days, the marriage contract was generally made between the husband and the father of the bride. The bride was seldom given any say in the matter. Women were treated almost like property. To be "given" in marriage meant they could be given by parents to an unknown man (Genesis 24, 21:21), or given as a reward. (Judges 1:12, 1 Sam 17:25) They could be bought and sold, (Genesis. 29:20, Ruth 4:10, Hosea 3:2, 12:12) or even kidnapped. (Judges 21:21-23) This is kind of worldly coupling the Lord was referring to when He said, "The children of this age marry and are given in marriage." (Luke 20:34) Perhaps we should take the saying "In the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage," to mean, "In heaven there is no buying and selling of women and legal contracting such as you are used to."
Did They Really Want to Know?
The Sadducees were not actually interested in learning about marriage after death. They did not even believe in the possibility of life after death. All they wanted was to discredit the Lord's teaching about life after death. They would neither have listened nor understood if the Lord had tried to explain the difference between a genuine marriage based on love and trust and the kind of legal, physical coupling they thought of as marriage. The Sadducees were among those who would "see without seeing, and hear without hearing"&emdash;the kind of people the Lord could speak to only in parables. (Mark 10:33, 34)
Even the Lord's disciples had difficulty with the concept that marriage should be enduring. When the Lord taught that marriage should last to the end of life in this world, the disciples replied, "If such is the case of the man with his wife, it is better not to marry." But Jesus said to them, "All cannot accept this saying but only those to whom it has been given." (Matthew 19:10, 11) Now if He told them about earthly marriage and they could not believe, how could He possibly tell them of heavenly marriage? This is a strong indication that what the Lord said to them about marriage in heaven was spoken in a parable, which would not be understood until a later time. It may be a mistake to take the passage too literally.
When the Lord said that in heaven they neither marry nor are given in marriage He was speaking the truth. However, taken in context, the passage does not tell what heaven is like, but what it is not like, namely, that in heaven they do not arrange weddings in the same way that people do on earth.
Other Teachings about Marriage So far we have spoken of only one passage. However, there are many passages which might give us an indication of whether marriage continues after death, even if it is not in so many words. When God first created people, He made them male and female. (Genesis 1:27) He saw that what He had done was very good. (Genesis 1:31) If it is very good, why should it not continue after death? Jesus said, "They are no more two, but one flesh. What therefore, God has joined together, let no one put asunder." (Matthew 19:6, Mark 10:9) God Himself said, "It is not good that the man should be alone." (Genesis 2:18) "The Lord, the God of Israel, says that He hates putting away." (Malachi 2:16) If this is the case, then why would He put away every wife and husband from each other by death?
There are many, many passages which compare the relationship between God and His people to a marriage. "Your Maker is your Husband," He says. (Isaiah 54:5) "I am married to you." (Jeremiah 3:14) "I will betroth you to Me forever." (Hosea 2:19) Our relationship with the Lord is to be a blessed, heavenly, eternal relationship. Would our union with God be compared to something which ends with death and has no part in heaven? Or is marriage also a blessed, heavenly, eternal relationship?
Often when someone's spouse dies, the survivor is comforted by the thought that eventually they will be together again in heaven, and their relationship will continue as it had before. The Bible is not clear about marriage after death. One or two passages, taken out of context, seem to say that there is no "marriage" in heaven. Many more passages hint that true marriage is an eternal covenant. The Lord said, "I have yet many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now." (John 16:12) Could it be that among the many things the Lord has to tell us is clear knowledge about what happens to true marriages when the partners are together in heaven?
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| | itsadryheat
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 | | 07/17/2008 2:26 PM |
Alert | one of my main issues with this belief is that without it (according to LDS) I wouldn't be able to see God in the highest kingdom correct? It has already been stated that without temple sealing and rituals and rites, I can't get there...therfore, I can't see God...herego, I am basically in "hell." To say that without temple sealings, marriages, rituals, and rites one can't get into heaven is not Biblical. The Bible says that anyone who believes in his heart that he is saved and that Jesus rose from the dead, he will be saved (and have eternal life).
Also, the idea that so much weight is placed on it is a little unnerving. I still do not understand why whether you are married in heaven forever and eternity has any bearing on heaven at all. It just seems like a non-issue. Which confirms to me the skewed views of heaven, Bible etc...that have been portrayed here and elsewhere. | | | |
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| | DanielSon
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 | | 07/17/2008 3:26 PM |
Alert | Itsa:
Do you believe that baptism is necessary to enter into Heaven?
John 3:5 "Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God." | | "One must live, not only exist; he must do, not merely be; he must grow not just vegetate." - Spencer W. Kimball | |
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| | JasonY
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 | | 07/17/2008 4:14 PM |
Alert | Question: "Will there be marriage in heaven?"
Answer: The Bible tells us, “At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven” (Matthew 22:30). This was Jesus’ answer in response to a question concerning a woman who had been married multiple times in her life —who would she be married to in heaven (Matthew 22:23-28)? Evidently, there will be no such thing as marriage in heaven. This does not mean that a husband and wife will no longer know each other in heaven. This also does not mean that a husband and wife could not still have a close relationship in heaven. What it does seem to indicate, though, is that a husband and wife will no longer be married in heaven.
Most likely, there will be no marriage in heaven simply because there will be no need for it. When God established marriage, He did so to fill certain needs. First, He saw that Adam was in need of a companion. “The LORD God said, ‘It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him’” (Genesis 2:18). Eve was the solution to the problem of Adam’s loneliness, as well as his need for a “helper,” someone to come alongside him as his companion and go through life by his side. In heaven, however, there will be no loneliness, nor will there be any need for helpers. We will be surrounded by multitudes of believers and angels (Revelation 7:9), and all our needs will be met, including the need for companionship.
Second, God created marriage as a means of procreation and the filling of the earth with human beings. Heaven, however, will not be populated by procreation because in heaven we will have glorified bodies that are neither male nor female. Those who go to heaven will get there by faith in the Lord Jesus Christ; they will not be created there by means of reproduction. Therefore, there is no purpose for marriage in heaven since there is no procreation or loneliness.
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