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Scorpio
Posts:53
 | | 11/15/2007 12:00 PM |
 Alert | I will post this in a few places but what I am looking for is a doctor in Maricopa that treats ADHD kids and will prescribe their medication.
Does anyone have a name and phone number I can get? We moved here recently and our current doctor is in Mesa. It takes us 1 1/2 hours to get there with the current traffic and construction problems.
Any referrals would be great, even if they are not in Maricopa but close by.
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| | Scorpio
Posts:53
| | 11/26/2007 9:06 PM |
Alert | I got some referrals from the other 2 threads I originally posted.
Thanks anyway! | | | |
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| | geewiz
Posts:245
| | 12/04/2007 10:04 AM |
Alert | | ADHD is a made up condiction by the drug company to get your money. Those pills are probably nothing more than diazepam. | | | |
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| | Copatown24
Posts:7
| | 12/04/2007 6:29 PM |
Alert | | First off, whoever made this previous post has no idea what they are talking about, probably doesn't know what diazepam is, or is just on too much of it because they have severe anxiety issues, but anyway. ADHD is a real condition and affects many children and adults in a very serious way. I speak about this with great passion because having ADHD myself, as well as having family members that are dealing with ADHD as well, there are serious consequences to untreatead ADHD. The list is too many to count, but a slower learning curve, inability to interact with others in a normal manner, not to mention the fact that there is actually a higher risk of drug/substance abuse when the symtoms are untreated and the patients themselves are using these substances to self medicate. I also want to add validity to my post by saying that I deal with ADHD, and the doctors that treat this issue on a day to day basis and the idea that this is made up from drug companies is crazy. I do not know of any good ADHD doctors in Maricopa itself, but I do have many Doctors in the Chandler/Phoenix area that are not that far away and are very current on this diagnosis and the newest and best treatments. I am sorry that this is lengthy, but when someone posts pure stupidity like the one before me, I tend to get fired up because they could have a negative impact on a childs life! | | | |
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| | Scorpio
Posts:53
| | 12/04/2007 11:33 PM |
Alert | Anyone who says ADHD is made up is speaking out of ignorance and obviously has never had an ADHD child. It is very real. Ask anyone who deals with this condition on a day to day basiis - either directly or indirectly. Your entire life is turned upside down. My son was diagnosed at age 6 - and I knew at age 2 that he was way different than other kids his age - he is now 12.
I've been the one going to the school meetings and the one apologizing to other kids' parents when my kid does something impuslive and the one reading everything about it I could get my hands on so don't tell me anything about something you know nothing about.
ADHD medication is actually a stimulant. Tell me how THAT works for a hypractive kid! No one can explain it but it has the opposite effect that it would on anyone without ADHD. I wish everyone could be educated about this. And yes, some kids are misdiagnosed, but many more are not. I hope this helped someone understand a little more about it. | | | |
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| | Copatown24
Posts:7
| | 12/05/2007 10:18 AM |
Alert | | Scorpio - I am glad that you are able to have your child treated, I hope you were able to find a closer DR, if you need help with that still just let me know and I can get you a good list. There is alot of support information and programs out there as well, if you need anything about ADHD I am the one to talk to. What stimulant is your child on if you dont mind me asking? | | | |
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|  | CrownNCoke
Posts:810
| | 12/05/2007 2:15 PM |
Alert | | When I was in grade school (7th grade), the school pcyh (or someone) after some testing told me I had ADHD and had me take medication I took it once I felt like a zombie and told my mom that I wouldnt take it anymore and that was that (lord know parents these days would not listen to there kids and just force it on them...i am thankful that my parents listened). But for having had such severe "ADHD" as the "pcyh put it... bla bla bla think I have done pretty good Graduated high school went to college recieved my engineering degree and will be getting my MBA in less than a year. I have been working as an engineer for the last 4 years and have a consulting business on the side. Just remember before you start loading your child up with god knows what do some research (not with your Doc are school) the Doc gets kick-backs and the school gets paid more money for "special" kids. Anyhow I dont belive that ADHD is made up but I do think that parents instead of taking the easy way out and feeding your kids drugs...Ill stop there I could go on and on I feel sorry for kids that are put on these drugs but what can you do...good luck with your child | |
The meeting of two personalities is like the contact of two chemical substances: if there is any reaction, both are transformed.
Carl Jung | |
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| | Scorpio
Posts:53
| | 12/05/2007 9:55 PM |
Alert | Copatown24 - thanks, I did find some closer doctors so will try those first. I know where to find you if I need more names.  I have been researching ADHD for the past 6 years and have found all sorts of resources and Parent help groups. It's amazing the support that is in place now compared to 6 years ago. He is on Concerta.
CrownNCoke - I'm glad you were able to go on and lead a very productive life without being on medication. You may not have truly been ADHD, which is very common too. My son and I have talked about this so often, it is a free and easy conversation for us. He has no qualms telling me what he thinks of everything, and he has told me point blank on several occasions that he doesn't like the way he feels when he is not on medication. He feels out of control. His words, not mine. So I tend to think he knows what he feels. It helps him be able to even just sit still in a chair, which was a major problem before. His schoolwork is SO much better on it than off. I know there are many kids who have a problem with the medication - it either knocks them out, or upsets their stomach or gives them headaches. He has none of those side effects so he is one of the lucky ones. Maybe he is on the perfect dose for him, also? I don't know. But I checked out the medication. I spent 6 months at first - I read hundreds news articles and internet websites and talked to parents of ADHD kids and doctors and teachers and nurses and anyone I could find who knew about this. I wanted every opinion and every fact from either side in order to decide what I thought was best for my kid. And I decided to try the medication knowing that we might need to stop at any time if something was not working for him. Thank God it does help him so much and does not seem to have side effects. We do everything we can at home to help him, as in being consistent, etc. but it was not enough. So my personal experience and advice as a parent is to do what you feel is best for your child considering all the information available to you. That's all you can do. I sleep well at night with my decision. And I believe my son will have a better life WITH medication. | | | |
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| | CrownNCoke
Posts:810
| | 12/06/2007 7:37 AM |
Alert | | Well good luck every situation is different | |
The meeting of two personalities is like the contact of two chemical substances: if there is any reaction, both are transformed.
Carl Jung | |
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| | CandyGir1
Posts:51
| | 12/08/2007 10:37 AM |
Alert | geewiz - from where did you receive a medical degree?
CrownNCoke - you're right, every situation is different. Your situation IS different and I hope people don't use that information as a reason to not get help for their child(ren). Just like your parents did research, I'm sure most parents do. I may be naive but I hope there aren't a bunch of parents out there that just run to the doctor and make up symptoms so they can have drugs for their child(ren). And I'm just asking here, but were you just sitting in the corner reading and minding your own business in 7th grade when the psychiatrist just walked up and said there is something wrong? And people with ADHD can be successful without medication. ADHD doesn't mean that there has to be a learning disability. Are you saying that it was an incorrect diagnosis or are you just objecting to the medication?
I've heard that whole "kick backs" thing constantly over the years. If there are any medical professionals out there, maybe they could set the record straight. Would it be worth it to jeopardize your large salary, practice, license and lifestyle for these "kick backs." Does it really amount to that much money or do people just use that as an excuse not to believe medical professionals about ADHD?
Good luck to all of the parents of ADHD children. I hope you can weed through the rhetoric and self-righteous opinions to make the best decision for your child - medication or not. | | | |
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| | Copatown24
Posts:7
| | 12/08/2007 2:28 PM |
Alert | | Just as a reply to "kickbacks" that medical professionals get by prescribing this medication, I am 100% positive that there are not any incentives from anyone for physicians to prescribe medications. I am curious to hear what exactly you mean be a kickback? Do you truely beleive that doctors are getting money from government/Pharma companies? The pharmaceutical industry is so regulated in the past 5 years that this is unheard of. If you are concerned about you or your child being put on medication because of kickbacks then you are really off base. If this is one of your worries then you should actually be more concerned about your dentist or hospital as those sales industries are much less regulated and therefore something like that is more likely to happen. My last question is for CrownNCoke, first off, how old are you? By reading your post about your education, I am sure you are atleast in your late 20's early 30's, and the whole diagnosis of ADHD really didnt even become studied or really recognized until about 8-10 years ago, so your situation is extreme. Secondly, you said that you were just given a pill from a person at your school, I am not positive, but I do not know of many school that actually have a psychiatrist on staff at school, there are counsilors, maybe phychologists, but neiter of these people have the authoritiy to prescribe or give out any types of medications, they can recommend and refer a child to someone who can, such as a pediatrician, family dr, psychiatric nurse practioner, PA or a psychiatrist, but they are not by law able to prescribe medications, I would love to hear who gave you the medications. | | | |
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| | janedo
Posts:74
| | 12/08/2007 8:27 PM |
Alert | Dr Phil says that ADHD is a real condition, but that it is diagnosed to often and without the proper testing. He says the only way to truly diagnose ADHD is by a brain scan. Simply having your child's behaviors evaluated is not enough.
And we all know that Dr Phil knows everything. | | | |
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| | bryant3
Posts:27
| | 12/11/2007 7:28 AM |
Alert | | My son has been treated for ADHD since he was 6, he is now going on 12. We were not told he was ADHD by school or anything. It was under my direction that I had him evaluated, because I saw a difference in his behavior and reaction toward things, with the impulsiveness. He has been through counseling, as well as regular medication to help control it. He is an honor student, and had always brought home A's & B's. Although we have tried all the different medications, which have all worked, we have been on Strattera for the past 2 years, which is not a stimulant. It works well, and the only side effect that we have seen is that it needs to be taken with food, otherwise it upsets the stomach. We are monitored by just his regular doctor, who is in Chandler. My son is no longer in counseling, as we have learned how to control the ADHD with tools and tricks, alongside medication. It is a very real problem, and can be handled correctly by the right person. I do agree that there are some kids that are labeled that truly are not, they are just more hyper than others. But for those who truly are ADHD, I am glad that there are treatment options out there that can help you deal. I do not agree that medication is the only answer. I think that the best way to treat is a combination of medication and behavior modification, and teaching your child how to recognize their impulsivness and how to think through it. | | | |
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| | cmfitness
Posts:121
| | 12/14/2007 8:17 PM |
Alert | This is just my experience. When my son was 8, he was diagnosed with ADHD and put on meds. This was a young boy who could not sit for dinner or for any of his classes. During dinner time he would find himself pacing around the table, and if I asked him to please sit, he would sit on the edge of his seat, tapping his feet for about 20 seconds, but then he would get up and start wandering again. In class his teachers struggled to get him to focus on any one thing for any decent length of time.
The meds-ritalin, were to be taken daily, and they did seem to help. His grades picked up a little by the end of the school year and he seemed more "together". It DID NOT help that his dad never made sure he took his meds every weekend when he went to visit. After about 4 month on the meds I read some scary things about adhd meds, including ritalin, and stopped giving them to him.
My son went through the next couple years struggling to concentrate, to keep up with his classes, and I was terrified when he exhibited more and more depression/near self destructive behavior. He used to write things, like how he thought he's be better off dead, and it rocked me to my core. Being a middle child, I guess, didn't help either, and it added to his isolation. I searched for non-prescription alternatives to his condition, and nothing really worked, until a year and a half ago.
I started him on a full regimen of Mannatech products. They are all natural and my husband and I had already been on the vitamins for over a year. My son is now in the 8th grade. He began the vitamins the Summer before his 7th grade year, and by the time Winter Break came around, I was called in for some conferences with his teachers. All of them were amazed at the change in his concentration, but mainly in his attitude. He has since brought his C's and D's up to consistant A's and B's, with an occasional "C". At times, if he forgets to take his vitamins for more then a few days, then he seems to be more cranky.
None of this was instant, and the products he takes are not a cure all, at least not in my opinion. I am hoping to get him on the right track in time for high school and the extra hard challenges there. All I know are the results I have seen with my own child.
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| | Copatown24
Posts:7
| | 12/14/2007 11:05 PM |
Alert | | That is an amazing story, all I have heard about those vitamins is that they are completely worthless. Actually you are the first person that I have ever heard that have any positive effects for their child. I am glad you found something that worked for your son. There are stories out there about ADHD medications, but I would caution anyone who reads them to check the source as well as see how many patients that are actually affected. There are bad affects to every medication for some people, but actually the stimulant medications that are being used to treat ADHD have been used for 75 years now, and they are one of the safest and most studied medication categories on any market for any disease state. | | | |
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| | cmfitness
Posts:121
| | 12/18/2007 9:59 PM |
Alert | | My son is still pulling a consistant "B" average. He no longer mopes and doesn't make inadvertant comments anymore of how he feels worthless. He has a much more positive attitude that you would have to see to believe. He still hates chores, and such, but what kid doesn't? Like I said, I am not saying it is a cure all, but I make sure he takes his vitamins everyday. I dont believe in miracle stuff, but I do know that he tends to get cranky when he misses his vitamins. I am actually looking forward to the mid-term grades! I also started a hug therapy for all of my children....all 5 of them, at least 2 GOOD hugs a day. You would not believe it, but it really means something when you give your children really meaningful hugs, not just a pat or two. Try it for two months! | | | |
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