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Jason
Posts:3378
 | | 11/01/2007 10:55 AM |
 Alert | Walmart has this player tomorrow morning at 8 AM for $98, and you can still fill out the form and get 5 free movies by mail. Looks like Best Buy also reduced the price to $99 and the same thing applies. Stores in the Valley have them in stock.
This plus the studios that signed over look to be pushing HD DVD ahead. | |
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| | JasonY
Posts:3446
| | 11/01/2007 12:23 PM |
Alert | | Wow, that is an awesome deal. If I wasn't out of town tomorrow I would get one. How did the price of HD DVD players drop so fast? I remember they were big bucks at the beginning of the year. Or maybe I am thinking of Blue Ray. | |
"My favorite health club is the International House of Pancakes" -- Lewis Black | |
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| | jamest
Posts:69
| | 11/01/2007 3:39 PM |
Alert | Best Buy is price matching as well..
http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/01/best-buy-offers-the-toshiba-hd-a2-for-100-too-and-other-hd-dv/
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/more-%2499-hd-dvd-player/best-buy-matching-99-toshiba-hd-dvd-player-at-walmart-317909.php | | | |
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| | Jason
Posts:3378
| | 11/01/2007 3:48 PM |
Alert | | BB is now all sold out. Too bad, since BB was also offering 2 free movies in the store + the 5 free ones Toshiba is offering. | |
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| | *rikimaru*
Posts:497
| | 11/01/2007 4:24 PM |
Alert | | this isnt going to push it ahead of bluray, studio support would do it and even that is waning in favor of BR. better hope those rumors of WB going BR exclusive are not true, that would be the final nail in HDDVDs coffin. oh btw, the paramount deal was for 18 months, ends at the end of 2008. paramount knew BR would win, so they took the reported 150 mil and ran with it, while waiting for many many more BR players either standalone or PS3 units to reach more homes, then will release all the titles from 8-2007-12-2008 on BR in 2009 when their deal expires. poor poor HD DVD fanbots, you dont know the war has already been lost. so so sad...... | |
listened for, they cannot be heard;looked for, they cannot be seen; felt for, they cannot be touched: old ninja proverb | |
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| | JasonY
Posts:3446
| | 11/01/2007 4:26 PM |
Alert | | VHS forever! | |
"My favorite health club is the International House of Pancakes" -- Lewis Black | |
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|  | caveman
Posts:1276
| | 11/01/2007 5:55 PM |
Alert | <div class='NTForums_Quote'>Posted By *rikimaru* on 11/01/2007 4:24 PM
this isnt going to push it ahead of bluray, studio support would do it and even that is waning in favor of BR. better hope those rumors of WB going BR exclusive are not true, that would be the final nail in HDDVDs coffin. oh btw, the paramount deal was for 18 months, ends at the end of 2008. paramount knew BR would win, so they took the reported 150 mil and ran with it, while waiting for many many more BR players either standalone or PS3 units to reach more homes, then will release all the titles from 8-2007-12-2008 on BR in 2009 when their deal expires. poor poor HD DVD fanbots, you dont know the war has already been lost. so so sad......</div>
Explain how HD DVD has lost the format war? BluRay players cost far too much so almost everyone who has BluRay is a PS3 user. They sell so many BluRay movies due to poor developer support for the PS3. With no games what are you going to do but watch movies?
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| | Jason
Posts:3378
| | 11/01/2007 9:24 PM |
Alert | Explain how HD DVD has lost the format war? BluRay players cost far too much so almost everyone who has BluRay is a PS3 user. They sell so many BluRay movies due to poor developer support for the PS3. With no games what are you going to do but watch movies?
I wouldn't expect a straight answer, rikimaru is a PS3/BluRay fanboy through and through...
At this point HD DVD does have the studio backing and the price point. Now it has Walmart behind it, so there is a fairly good chance that BluRay could come out of this as a niche format. Kind of like Betamax, Minidisc and UMD. | |
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| | *rikimaru*
Posts:497
| | 11/01/2007 11:50 PM |
Alert | so all of a sudden people are going to jump on the hd dvd wagon over a 100 or 150 price drop? again, it comes down to movie lineup. who has the better quality studios backing it? not hd dvd thats for sure. be realistic, Bluray is going to come out on top. probably next yr if i had to take a guess. expect universal to go neutral in 2008 too btw. its just a matter of who has more players, also how many movies plus how many blockbuster titles. i can think of transformers being a blockbuster, but the week it came out it was still beaten in sales by BR albeit with a big bogo offer but nonetheless the evidence is clear BR will come out on top.
btw i admit i am a sony fanboy, and i guess to some extent a BR fanboy. also to answer cavemans question, lets see i have been playing Ratchet&Clank on the PS3 which is a fantastic platformer, plus Call of Duty arrives next week with Beowulf to follow plus maybe the GOY in a 1st party sony title called Uncharted: Drakes Fortune which looks awesome. watch when the new 40gig 399 PS3 hits stores tomorrow, the millions of ps2 owners will finally buy one, thus putting more BR players into homes thus equalling more BR sales thus ushering in the death knell for HDDVD. RIP HDDVD, it wasnt fun knowing ya the short while you were here  | |
listened for, they cannot be heard;looked for, they cannot be seen; felt for, they cannot be touched: old ninja proverb | |
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| | alanf
Posts:1601
| | 11/02/2007 8:11 AM |
Alert | Posted By *rikimaru* on 11/01/2007 11:50 PM watch when the new 40gig 399 PS3 hits stores tomorrow, the millions of ps2 owners will finally buy one, thus putting more BR players into homes thus equalling more BR sales thus ushering in the death knell for HDDVD. RIP HDDVD, it wasnt fun knowing ya the short while you were here
Will they? I think not! I believe Sony is going to see a whole bunch of one fingered salutes from long time PS users when folks find out the new $399 unit will have ZERO backward compatability with PS2 games...yes, that would be ZERO!!!
"The cheaper models will have only two USB ports and no longer have integrated memory card slots. Users will have to buy a USB adapter to add memory card functionality, he said.
The smaller, 40GB hard drive will not affect gameplay, Seybold said, only the amount of content users can download from the PlayStation online store and the amount of storage for photos, home movies, etc.
The cheaper PS3 also will no longer play PlayStation 2 titles, the company said, citing its “extensive” availability of PS3-specific titles.
Consumers looking to play their PlayStation 2 games should look to the 80GB PS3, which will have “limited functionality.”
Link To Article
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| | LIVIPR05
Posts:11
| | 11/02/2007 9:35 AM |
Alert | | I could care less if the new $399 PS3 does not play my PS2 games. I still own a PS2 and can play them on it. I will be picking up the new $399 PS3 in the near future. BluRay FTW. | | | |
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| | alanf
Posts:1601
| | 11/02/2007 9:39 AM |
Alert | | Shouldn't have a problem finding them on the shelves. | | | |
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| | Pizzaking
Posts:259
| | 11/02/2007 11:57 AM |
Alert | Just an fyi if ya didnt get a HD-A2 or wanted the better one. Best buy just added this one for 199.99 with 7 freebies. The HD-A3.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8494435&st=hd+a3&lp=1&type=product&cp=1&id=1186003898783
I gotta agreew with the HDers. I think this puts HD way above. They are pretty much sold out everywhere right now on the HD-A2 with this promo.
Interesting article to add to the argument:
http://www.cnbc.com/id/21581845
Sony has no choice but to counter somehow. This is gonna be a fun war to watch. | |
Pizzaking
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| | Jason
Posts:3378
| | 11/02/2007 12:33 PM |
Alert | <div class='NTForums_Quote'>so all of a sudden people are going to jump on the hd dvd wagon over a 100 or 150 price drop? again, it comes down to movie lineup.</div>
We're talking about a $300 price difference here. That's not small potatoes to most people. Why do you think Walmart is so popular? With the mortgage problems, credit crunch, increased energy prices, a $300 difference is very significant. It's not like you can't watch those movies, you just can't get them in HD, for now. | |
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| | Jason
Posts:3378
| | 11/02/2007 12:35 PM |
Alert | | Don't forget that Blockbuster also reneged on its Blu-Ray exclusivity announcement. | |
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| | alanf
Posts:1601
| | 11/02/2007 12:43 PM |
Alert | Blockbuster had HD-DVD from the beginning online. Are they going to put it in the stores now too? Hadn't heard that.
Personally, I'm happy with my Xbox 360 $189. HD-DVD player. | | | |
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| | Jason
Posts:3378
| | 11/02/2007 1:06 PM |
Alert | | The last time I checked, BB online still had new releases of HD DVDs and there are reports over on SlickDeals of stores carrying HD DVD again. | |
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| | Jason
Posts:3378
| | 11/02/2007 1:07 PM |
Alert | Just an fyi if ya didnt get a HD-A2 or wanted the better one. Best buy just added this one for 199.99 with 7 freebies. The HD-A3.
Actually it is 9 free movies. Two in the box (300 and Bourne) for free, pick two of your choice in the store and then mail a rebate for 5 more. | |
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| | *rikimaru*
Posts:497
| | 11/03/2007 8:05 PM |
Alert | | can the A2 do 1080P? nope. can u watch SP3,Pirates, disney etc etc movies in TRUE HD with the A2? nope not at all. there have been complaints the the drive is slower than the PS3, dont know if that is true or not but still. content is gonna make the A2 firesale and yes it was a firesale, irrelavant as BR starts making more and more hit movies available exclusively on BR. btw u know spielberg doesnt care for HDDVD so thats just another nail in the hddvd coffin. also for the people who only bought the player because of its price, i believe they wont buy a bunch of movies cuz they are bargain shoppers, not necessarily people who want HD movies and are willing to pay for them. just come on over to the Blue side jason, i would welcome u as a brother...... | |
listened for, they cannot be heard;looked for, they cannot be seen; felt for, they cannot be touched: old ninja proverb | |
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| | HiggsBoson
Posts:641
| | 11/03/2007 8:39 PM |
Alert | rikimaru, man you are delusional, must be all the (blue) kool-aid AHAHAHA!
Right now both are a niche market, average consumers are very much driven by price. BR was pulling ahead, but if we go now through X-Mas with $99-199 HD-DVD players without a significant drop in BR price that could easily shift things back into HD-DVDs favor. I don't know who will eventually win, but HD-DVD is far from dead, and Sony doesn't have a great track record on their proprietary formats they are always trying to push. If it wasn't for PS3 this would be over already.
I went to Walmart (Tempe) to get an A2 Friday at about 9:30 AM and they were all gone already. By the time I found out about Best Buy matching online that deal was gone, to make it worse it turns out BB was substituting the A3 (included 2 more free movies in the box) for many people that had ordered the A2 online. I then heard that Frys was selling the A3 for $99 and drove up there today and they didn't have any either.
I heard next Friday Walmart is going to be doing the A3 for $199 (Best Buy still has it for $199 on their website, but that is supposed to go back to $299 tomorrow). The Sears Black Friday ad has already been leaked and they will have an A3 for $169 I believe. If there isn't a BR player for $199 I think they could get pounded.
Anyway, I was one of those people on the fence, I already have an XBOX360 and Wii and have no interesting in PS3, but I was holding off to see how the "war" was going to go. I have to say though for $99 I will take my chances, I would be renting far more movies than buying, so I'm not worried about a bunch of "obsolete" HD-DVDs if it ends up being a dead format in a year or two. The way I look at it is that I paid $119 for my last standard upconverting DVD player, so for $99 I get an upconverting standard DVD player that can also play HD-DVDs.
The whole 1080i/p is complicated, but for most people its a non-issue (if you understand all the technical aspects of the debate). Plus this is America, everyone needs more than one DVD player, so I can always buy a better 1080P player once they come down in price a little more and move the $99 to another room.
Now all I have to do is get one next time they hit $99.
Thanks,
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Liberalism and capitalism address themselves to the cool, well-balanced mind. They proceed by strict logic, eliminating any appeal to the emotions. Socialism, on the contrary, works on the emotions, tries to violate logical considerations by rousing a sense of personal interest and to stifle the voice of reason by awakening primitive instincts.
-- Ludwig Von Mises | |
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