Tempting Fait1
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 | | 07/09/2007 11:06 PM |
 Alert | | Sorry, I will NOT spend money on an HP--I hate HP. The only reason I have this one is it was free. I have spent entirely too many hours attempting to get an HP printer to work and thrown out entirely too many 3/4ths full cartridges to invest anymore money in this company | |
The red head is BACK!! (and still mouthy)
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agit8d
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| | 07/10/2007 9:23 AM |
Alert | MAC filtering is secure to keep anyone off your router.....but lets look at reality and we can even take a poll.. who here has ever had their network hacked or even thought so??? hackers aren't taking the time to see if they
can hack your network in hopes they get some personal info...hackers target places where they can get an abundance of data not Joe and Mary's network hoping they log on to their bank while they are sitting in your driveway.
they would rather spend their time sitting outside a hotel or coffee shop snooping..I'm sure you will argue this to death Jason as with every other subject. but simple security a firewall and up to date anti-virus is just what the
AVARAGE JOE NEEDS....you can think there is someone out there just waiting for your information but the fact is hackers want LOTS of data not just your posting information. | |
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Jason
Posts:3378
| | 07/10/2007 9:59 AM |
Alert | "MAC filtering is secure to keep anyone off your router....."
It doesn't stop them from seeing the data you transmit.
"hackers target places where they can get an abundance of data not Joe and Mary's network hoping they log on to their bank while they are sitting in your driveway."
Except that hackers also like to hide their activity. A little illegal movie downloading and some kiddie-porn, who do you think the authorities are going to come after? That's right. You. Also there have been cases of home users routers hacked and personal information stolen, so don't act like it doesn't happen. If the user wants to use WEP and/or MAC filtering and think they're secure enough, that's up to them. But at least give them <i>all</i> of the facts. That includes the ones where experts in the field say that WEP and MAC is not enough.
You see, the AVERAGE JOE, like you point out, is going to take your opinion that WEP is enough, connect to a Hotspot and guess what, if they're only using WEP, is Average Joe going to think twice about using it? No, because you've told him it is "good enough" for him. Except that he is now connected to one of those large targets you were touting that hackers only go after. Do you see the disservice you've done to Average Joe? By shielding him from the facts, you have created a false sense of security.
You're trying to come off like you know what you're talking about but you offer nothing to support your conclusion. You keep saying "it's enough" but you don't say why. My position is backed up by fact and industry experts. What is your opinion backed up by? Your gut feeling?
You can make this about me (saying I will argue it to the death) but you know the facts don't support your conclusions. Please, try to make a real argument. Don't resort to petty tactics like that which only reduce your credibility. Stick to the issue. | |
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Jason
Posts:3378
| | 07/10/2007 10:27 AM |
Alert | | There are a lot of different scenarios where someone could connect to your network can do something illicit, not just someone parked on your street. How about the neighbor two or three streets over? What about their friends they have staying with them? Don't give users a false sense of security. WEP and MAC filtering is not enough when your reputation and identity are on the line. | |
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Jason
Posts:3378
| | 07/10/2007 10:34 AM |
Alert | Posted By Tempting Fait1 on 07/09/2007 11:06 PM
Sorry, I will NOT spend money on an HP--I hate HP. The only reason I have this one is it was free. I have spent entirely too many hours attempting to get an HP printer to work and thrown out entirely too many 3/4ths full cartridges to invest anymore money in this company
I don't blame you. I don't think there are any other consumer level printers that will do network scanning, so as long as network printing is enough, then you can get an adapter. | |
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Tempting Fait1
Posts:728
| | 07/10/2007 10:51 AM |
Alert | | I'll just stick with what I have and if I need to scan something I'll run a temp line to the computer. | |
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C-Dub
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| | 07/10/2007 6:55 PM |
Alert | MAC Filtering will deter most people to connect, however if you can "hear" the wireless signal and it is not encrypted the MAC address can be spoofed. I think most of your recent WAP's and Wireless NIC's support WPA and will not affect your performance all that much to be noticed.
That's based on experience with my business. I'm a Cisco Wireless Design and Support Specialist. | | | |
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agit8d
Posts:209
| | 07/11/2007 8:01 AM |
Alert | point being the avarage joe has dificulties configuring most secrurity protocals and they just leave the network wide open anyway. so the SIMPLEST way to DETER people from connecting to your wireless network is MAC filtering.
Personally I use EAP-TLS with a CA if your not a member of my domain you will NOT connect...
now ask your avarage joe to put that in place and support it... | |
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Tempting Fait1
Posts:728
| | 07/11/2007 4:30 PM |
Alert | | Ok, so who is gonna come configure my security protocal for me?? | |
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agit8d
Posts:209
| | 07/11/2007 4:40 PM |
Alert | <div class='NTForums_Quote'>Posted By Tempting Fait1 on 07/11/2007 4:30 PM
Ok, so who is gonna come configure my security protocal for me??</div>
I think you should have Jason come out and configure it for you. He seems to know best what avarage Joe needs...
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umtech
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| | 07/11/2007 5:13 PM |
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