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nitehawk75User is Offline

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04/07/2008 4:43 PM Alert 

does anyone want to start a rose society here in maricopa?  I am a former  member of the American Rose Society and have grown roses for many years in AZ.  The group would get together and learn about roses, i.e. which ones grow best in AZ, how to plant , water, ferilize,prune.  One goal of growing roses is to enter tthem in valley wide rose shows and the state fair. I hope to contact consulting rosarians to help besides a little of social interaction. It is a lot of fun too.


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*rikimaru*User is Offline

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04/09/2008 4:42 AM Alert 
i'm in!!!!!!!!!

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nitehawk75User is Offline

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04/25/2008 9:21 PM Alert 
rikimaru where do we go next step in fining members

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04/25/2008 9:25 PM Alert 
just ask around i guess. roses are a lot of time&effort and i am not sure how many people have both in order to keep them up. 2 people can be a society i guess, albeit a very small society

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04/28/2008 9:19 PM Alert 

2 member would  suck for the rose showes  

and the queen court be real small


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one bunch bananas
one bottle rum
one parrot
the parrot to eat the bannanas
"donn beach" aka don the beachcomber
Blue OrchidUser is Offline

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05/04/2008 5:44 AM Alert 
Will the Rose Society have an "Ask us" advice service for those of us who weren't helped by the "Roses for Dummies" book?

*rikimaru*User is Offline

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05/04/2008 6:36 AM Alert 
i would always be available for help with roses, so i suppose the answer would be yes to your question

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05/05/2008 2:49 PM Alert 

I grew roses successfully for years in NJ. When I tried to grow them in AZ (in a large pot in order to provide the proper soil) it was a disaster? What's the secret?

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05/05/2008 6:11 PM Alert 
well for me, the secret is 3 fold: timing, water&nutrients/fertilizer. In arizona which i am an extremely proud native son of , i find january to be the most active month for me as i dig holes for new roses, prune back existing bushes leaving 4-6 strong canes&stripping the leaves off of existing bushes as well. January is the month for bare root roses for me while febuary is the month i put in roses that a nursery has been growing (special order roses ie unique colors etc). just deep water every day for a week for newly planted roses, after that once a week til april then u start 2 times a week then in june/late may you go to 3 times a week always making sure you mulch the base of the bushes to help keep moisture in (especially during the warm/hot months. summer months will find the plants kinda in survival mode although they will bloom but the heat really takes a toll on the blooms just like the bushes back east who go kinda dormant in the winters back there. in october-december is a time when you will get fall/winter folliage coming back strong with lots of blooms etc. the cycle starts all over again in january. i fertilize once a month with a product called extreme juice by the garden guy who is on channel 3 on saturday mornings, from january-may, half that amount through the summer months&i dont fertilize during the fall. roses can do real well here, just gotta give them the time&devotion they need to really shine.

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garden glowUser is Offline

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05/05/2008 6:46 PM Alert 

Now you let the cat out of the bag..lol...soooooooo your a native....YOU are a gold mine of gardening info....get ready to have your brain picked....

What other plants have you had success with that az."transplants" would consider non-viable in the desert?

I'm definitely gonna take time to swing by to see your garden....


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*rikimaru*User is Offline

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05/06/2008 5:02 AM Alert 

well to be honest, i havent really tried much especially in the front yard. i am very old school in that i absolutely love front yards with a big shade tree (chinese elm) and a lawn,  with some color added (roses to the left of the driveway) and thats it really. i have some ideas for next yr but i am still kicking them around. in the back i just have a big lawn with another shade tree (chinese elm which i just love as far as shade goes with some cats claw along the block wall and a few queens wreath vines along the wall. got to buy some more mature queens wreath&cats claw cuz i found out cheaper 1 gallon specimens dont always work out nearly as well as the more expensive 5 gallon ones lol


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nitehawk75User is Offline

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05/06/2008 6:19 PM Alert 

i am all awys around to help peaple with problems
i have grown rose here for meny year and so has my father grerw them also
the rose society is and will allways be there to help
and improve the roeses in our gardens and ill see if i cant get one on the peaple from phoenix to come down and help too. 


the ideal breakfast
one bunch bananas
one bottle rum
one parrot
the parrot to eat the bannanas
"donn beach" aka don the beachcomber
Blue OrchidUser is Offline

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05/10/2008 4:23 AM Alert 
Thank-you to both *rikimaru* and nitehawk75 for your generous offer of rose assistance. . .

I've only been growing roses since we moved to 'copa. So far I have been very lucky. I have 4 bushes and 3 trees that are going into their 3rd summer. (One of the bushes I bought off the 'mostly dead' shelf at Lowe's in December.) I added 4 more bushes this spring. So far they all have new growth and all four are producing blooms.

However, two of my roses, a pink (Precious) and lavender (Blue Girl) have developed a rusty brown edge around the buds and flowers. Any ideas what might have caused this? These both are roses that were planted in 2005 and I 've not had this problem before. Feeding and watering have been consistant since planting.

Thanks again for offering to answer questions. . .especially in my case, I'm pretty good at dead-heading but completely clueless about everything else!

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05/10/2008 2:38 PM Alert 

blue

are you rose near any spring water if so the then the  
water is siting on the leaves and the heat is burning the leaves
if not it might be a fungus

 


the ideal breakfast
one bunch bananas
one bottle rum
one parrot
the parrot to eat the bannanas
"donn beach" aka don the beachcomber
*rikimaru*User is Offline

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05/10/2008 7:46 PM Alert 
some variety of roses are more delicate than others. i have a blue girl as well and i have noitced jan-april&october-december is when they do their best. summer months just take their toll on this variety i believe.

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garden glowUser is Offline

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05/31/2008 5:23 PM Alert 

Any advise???

I have a new customer that has 3 rose bushes...I do not know the variety...

Here's the issue...previous landscape maintenance was rounding and squaring off everything in it's path..they sheared the sides and tops off the rose bushes..to make things worse they also for some reason... shut the drip off as well..not sure how long they were not receiving water..

The current condition indicates the of lack of water..i.e. brittle and browning leaves and drooping buds...since the water has been back on there is new growth starting to appear...they are aprox.2 1/2 ft tall

My question...would I have a healthier bush if I pruned it back down or have I missed that seasonal opportunity? The new growth justs makes the rest of the bush look sickly...

Or should I fertilize instead?

Thanks for your advise....


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nitehawk75User is Offline

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05/31/2008 10:22 PM Alert 
frist you should never put roses on a drip you should flood that way the water
get deep to the root prune all the canes the cross the center of the plant should
aways make the bush grow in a v formation so when you take a cuting the leave
are not damage and look ther best for showing in the rose showes.

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one bunch bananas
one bottle rum
one parrot
the parrot to eat the bannanas
"donn beach" aka don the beachcomber
garden glowUser is Offline

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06/01/2008 7:05 AM Alert 
There is no one currently living at the property and I'm only there every two weeks...so I guess the drip is going to have to do for now...I'll do a deep watering when I'm there for service...

It should help flush away any salt deposits as well..(thanks riki)

What fertilizer/food do you recommend?

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*rikimaru*User is Offline

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06/01/2008 9:03 AM Alert 
any rose food should do, half the suggested amount though. it is imperative that if u are going to do the drip, to make sure its done 3 times a week probably an hour each time.

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06/01/2008 6:54 PM Alert 
Thanks for the help!!

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