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little1
Posts:4
 | | 08/02/2007 3:52 PM |
 Alert | | anyone out there in a relationship or love someone with bipolar? | | | |
| | NorCal Girl
Posts:166
| | 08/02/2007 4:51 PM |
Alert | | "Was" is the keyword for me, for that simple reason. They'll/ you'll never be happy. It can be very exhausting. I am sad for whoever is. | | | |
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| | TheShermanator
Posts:277
| | 08/02/2007 6:54 PM |
Alert | Bipolar- actually diagnosed with manic depression or depression only?
If this is someone you are very serious with, would you consider going with this person to doc appointments to learn more about their illness?
With proper medication and treatment, a person diagnosed with bipolar disorder CAN lead a happy, healthy life. It is not a sentence to a life time of misery. | |
Formerly known as 'greytxracers'
"My greyhound is smarter than your honor student"
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| | NorCal Girl
Posts:166
| | 08/04/2007 4:06 PM |
Alert | | You see, that's what I struggle with too- medication. WHY? Drugs shouldn't always be the first alternative. I was once diagnosed with PMDD and had to take this medication that had the active ingredient we know as Prozac. It was okay I guess, but too much of something is never really a good thing. Not to mention, it decreases your libido. Instead I wanted to change my thought process so I started reading aspirations...getting in touch with my spirituality (highly recommended)...reading alot of self help books (i.e. Richard Carlson's Don't Sweat the Small Stuff- Life, Love, Kids, Work, etc.) All I'm really saying is... really try to find other methods of dealing with your mood swings. I'm here if you ever need to talk. PM me and I'll listen and respond whole heartedly. | | | |
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| | Pet Social Worker
Posts:0
| | 08/04/2007 4:36 PM |
Alert | Studies show that a combo. of psychotherapy & psychopharmacology has the best success rate in keeping those dx w/ Bipolar Disorder from rapid cycling & hospitalization.
In my former career, I was a Psychiatric Social Woker. For many years, I facilitated a weekly support group for Family/Friends/Loved ones who were in relationships w/ someone dx w/ a mood disorder - specifically Bipolar. It was a group that I was very fond and proud of and I often get emails from parents or spouses of those who continue to cope & struggle w/ their loved one. Living with and loving with someone who suffers from any of or many of the symptoms of BP can be difficult but doable if both parties are 100% committed. I'd strongly suggest a support group if you can locate one in the area.
NorCal Girl - ADORABLE avatar! | | | |
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| | NorCal Girl
Posts:166
| | 08/04/2007 4:55 PM |
Alert | PSW...sounds like you help all walks of the earth. I wish there were more people like you around. I agree 100% on the support of loved ones. I don't know little1, but sometimes I know it feels good to talk to someone other than family to get a biased outlook on things that's why I asked if he/she'd like to pm me. To let them know someone is always there to help.
Thank you for the comment on the avatar. That's the new puppy I got from PKAT. We changed his name to Shamus (Shay-mis) | | | |
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|  | TheShermanator
Posts:277
| | 08/05/2007 6:23 PM |
Alert | For some, it is a chemical imbalance in the brain, and medication IS required.
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Formerly known as 'greytxracers'
"My greyhound is smarter than your honor student"
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| | stillhere21
Posts:70
| | 08/05/2007 10:03 PM |
Alert | | what would you like to know? i have been through a lot having a close loved one with this condition. it can be a hard road if not treated correctly...been there, done that. they are now on medication and get regular check-ups. leading a very steady lifestyle is important and getting plenty of support from others. | | | |
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| | pstoneaz
Posts:345
| | 08/06/2007 7:59 AM |
Alert | I have a family member that has been diagnosed being severely bipolar with also having great chances in being suicidal/homicidal. She will not undergo treatment or take any kinds of medications. She thinks that she is 100% ok, but does not realize that she is causing more damage to herself and her children.
At first it made me sad for her situation and I went all out to help her, but then it became irritating. We could never figure what mood she was going to be in or what horrible thoughts came flying out of her mouth. In NJ there is a hospital that would put you in a spych ward for a threat of suicide but not AZ.
We have given up hope on her and the majority of my family will no longer deal with her. I am afraid that one day she will commit suicide and everyone will feel like S**T for not forcing her to get help. | |
A diamond with a flaw is worth more than a pebble without imperfections. | |
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| | TheShermanator
Posts:277
| | 08/07/2007 6:03 AM |
Alert | If there is a threat to herself, or her children, you can have her involuntarily committed. It sucks, but for her safety, it is possible.
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Formerly known as 'greytxracers'
"My greyhound is smarter than your honor student"
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| | Pizzaking
Posts:259
| | 08/07/2007 9:05 AM |
Alert | | Yes. My wife is Bipolar. Its rough sometimes but in the end shes the one that I love and I do what I can to help and tolerate her. She can be VERY difficult at times but can also be the best person in the world. Its all about understanding. You have to learn when its best to let her just win an argument. You have to learn when to just walk away and give her space. They can really tear your emotions apart sometimes but you just have to remind yourself that its the sickness that is causing at times. It can be a job in itself but for me its worth it. | |
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| | pstoneaz
Posts:345
| | 08/07/2007 9:47 AM |
Alert | <div class='NTForums_Quote'>Posted By TheShermanator on 08/07/2007 6:03 AM
If there is a threat to herself, or her children, you can have her involuntarily committed. It sucks, but for her safety, it is possible.
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I was informed by a couple of therapists and local hospitals that she has to come in on her own. Even the Police can't do anything unless she hurts herself or her children. They once told me about an evaluation that we can get but a judge has to sign off on it and it could take a while. | |
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| | little1
Posts:4
| | 08/07/2007 12:23 PM |
Alert | | Thank you for all the posts. I have pm some of you. It's a tough situation to be in but I truely love the person I am with. | | | |
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| | starlaisme
Posts:55
| | 08/07/2007 2:39 PM |
Alert | <div class='NTForums_Quote'>Posted By NorCal Girl on 08/04/2007 4:06 PM
You see, that's what I struggle with too- medication. WHY? Drugs shouldn't always be the first alternative. I was once diagnosed with PMDD and had to take this medication that had the active ingredient we know as Prozac. It was okay I guess, but too much of something is never really a good thing. Not to mention, it decreases your libido. Instead I wanted to change my thought process so I started reading aspirations...getting in touch with my spirituality (highly recommended)...reading alot of self help books (i.e. Richard Carlson's Don't Sweat the Small Stuff- Life, Love, Kids, Work, etc.) All I'm really saying is... really try to find other methods of dealing with your mood swings. I'm here if you ever need to talk. PM me and I'll listen and respond whole heartedly.</div>
Only listen to people who are doctors reguarding taking meds for something as sierous as mental health issues, not some quack on a puplic forum.
It is possible to live a "normal" life being bipolar.
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| | NorCal Girl
Posts:166
| | 08/07/2007 5:49 PM |
Alert | <div class='NTForums_Quote'>Posted By starlaisme on 08/07/2007 2:39 PM
<div class='NTForums_Quote'>Posted By NorCal Girl on 08/04/2007 4:06 PM
You see, that's what I struggle with too- medication. WHY? Drugs shouldn't always be the first alternative. I was once diagnosed with PMDD and had to take this medication that had the active ingredient we know as Prozac. It was okay I guess, but too much of something is never really a good thing. Not to mention, it decreases your libido. Instead I wanted to change my thought process so I started reading aspirations...getting in touch with my spirituality (highly recommended)...reading alot of self help books (i.e. Richard Carlson's Don't Sweat the Small Stuff- Life, Love, Kids, Work, etc.) All I'm really saying is... really try to find other methods of dealing with your mood swings. I'm here if you ever need to talk. PM me and I'll listen and respond whole heartedly.</div>
Only listen to people who are doctors reguarding taking meds for something as sierous as mental health issues, not some quack on a puplic forum.
It is possible to live a "normal" life being bipolar.
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Fascinating...how you refer certain people who try to help here as "quacks". Such hasty words. Almost bipolarish, wouldn't think? I'm sorry if any of my statements offended anyone. But the truth of the matter is, did it occur to you some of the people who reach out may not want to choose that route? That's why little1 posted this to hear what our thoughts were on this- collectively. Honestly, what i personally think, from all the growth and experience I've had that the term "Bipolar" has gotten certainly over-rated and is a cop-out and an excuse to treat people like crap and make people feel sorry for them, but don't listen to me I just some "quack" on this public forum.
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| | 06woman
Posts:356
| | 08/13/2007 1:08 PM |
Alert | No, bipolarism is a serious mental illness. It is very common for bipolar people to self medicate and there is a high suicide rate for untreated. The longer it goes untreated after diagnosis, the less likely that person will respond to treatment or even agree to it. My son is bipolar and my nephew is bipolar. We are pretty sure that my grandmother was bipolar who abused alcohol and codeine when my mom was a child. It was not a commonly diagnosed illness back in the 50s and 60s. It can look like several other illnesses, such as ADHD or Oppositional Defiant Disorder. ADHD can be treated with meds, but ODD is only treatable through behavioral therapy. They can exist comorbidly as well too. Only a trained psychiatrist can make a real diagnosis.
I would NEVER say it is a copout for people to treat others like crap. That's just ridiculous. You know how many mentally ill people we have living in the streets because we can not properly treat them? Many are drug abusers because they self medicate to make themselves feel better. | |
"Happiness is a journey...not a destination."
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This is my son and a Lake Erie sunset. July 8,2007
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| | NorCal Girl
Posts:166
| | 08/14/2007 1:03 PM |
Alert | <div class='NTForums_Quote'>Posted By 06woman on 08/13/2007 1:08 PM
No, bipolarism is a serious mental illness. It is very common for bipolar people to self medicate and there is a high suicide rate for untreated. The longer it goes untreated after diagnosis, the less likely that person will respond to treatment or even agree to it. My son is bipolar and my nephew is bipolar. We are pretty sure that my grandmother was bipolar who abused alcohol and codeine when my mom was a child. It was not a commonly diagnosed illness back in the 50s and 60s. It can look like several other illnesses, such as ADHD or Oppositional Defiant Disorder. ADHD can be treated with meds, but ODD is only treatable through behavioral therapy. They can exist comorbidly as well too. Only a trained psychiatrist can make a real diagnosis.
I would NEVER say it is a copout for people to treat others like crap. That's just ridiculous. You know how many mentally ill people we have living in the streets because we can not properly treat them? Many are drug abusers because they self medicate to make themselves feel better. </div>
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Yikes. Well 06Woman, you have enlightened me on this topic and I now take back what I had said previous. That explains a whole lot about a relative that I have that, I think, was also diagnosed with this disease. The reason why I struggle into thinking that it was a bipolarism is due to his heavy drug use as well. I looked at it as someone who has been high for several days at a time has enormous mood swings coming down, right? Could it, in fact, be too that his drug use made him bipolar? Where does this disease derive from. He's an awesome person so long as he steers clear from the drugs.
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| | ceprice
Posts:14
| | 08/22/2007 8:45 PM |
Alert | I have bipolar disorder type II and my oldest son has bipolar type I. I think you would probably have to ask my husband or other kids about what life is like with someone with bipolar, but I can tell you I've been on both sides of the medication, and the spiritual affirmations and its pretty much come down to my belief that if you think it will work - it will. I was on an anti-sezure medication to treat the bipolar for 5 years and it did a pretty good job, but it had a lot of side effects. I stopped my medication over a year ago and though positive motivation, exercise, and healthy eating I can manage my moods at least as well as the meds did. I know that my family still has a lot to cope with living with me but I think that any family is like that we just have more labels then most.
After my son was diagnosed I began to realize how the world saw me as well. Having someone to see as an example of bipolar was a wakeup call. I realized that as much as I thought we just had attitudenal issues it could have been caused by the bipolar. And maybe I was just as frustrating for others to deal with. In some ways it helped me a lot.
I have had to learn to detach from him, and let him own his treatment. We can take him to the doctors a million times and buy medications like crazy but until he feels that it is important to maintain his own emotional stability there is very limited things we can do for him.
As for my own treatment, I have learned things that help and things that hurt my emotional stability. As much as I would have to make a concious effort to take my meds or see the doctor I have to put the same effort into maintaining my own way.
The number one thing I have learned is that I have also had to learn that I must take responsibilty for my actions if I do not maintain and that goes for with meds or no. | | | |
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| | Colgate
Posts:642
| | 08/22/2007 11:58 PM |
Alert | | I was married to someone with BPD and I stayed with him for over 9 years and have 2 children to him. He refused to get help and I could not take coming home and he would do the Hey honey kiss kiss, then go upstairs to get changed out of his work clothes and everything would fall apart. I would have to duck through flying objects and tons of yelling at the top of his lungs! I was always afraid of what he might do to hurt me or the kids. He ran from his problems and medical issues by drinking excessively. It is not fun and it really hurts the people who care about that person the most. Over the past 6 yrs since our divorce he has moved to 3 different states and has been fired or quit his job 5 times! (smart man accountant) He is one of the main reasons I moved across the US to get far away from him and to keep me and my kids safe. We needed a fresh start. So scary and sad. | |
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| | little1
Posts:4
| | 08/23/2007 11:12 AM |
Alert | | Do any of you, that has a spouse that has bipolar, attend support groups? If so where and when? | | | |
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