Sedona Gal
Posts:50
 | | 06/25/2008 11:20 AM |
 Alert | I am spitting mad, we know the rules on parking on the street at night. We got a warning from the HOA about parking. My son is required to bring the company truck home two nights a week because he has to head in the opposite direction so it's more convenient that he brings it home Wed. & Thurs. night. Since he can't park in the street he has to stay those nights by his friends house instead of here because of the regulations. He comes home at work at 4 and leaves here at 7pm as not to break the rules. Whoever this busybody was called his work and said that we are breaking the rules. NOT!!! His truck broke down on Friday night. He worked from 4 until 10 at night and brought it here so the mechanic could come and fix it. He parked across the street on the side of my neighbors house. My comment is why did you call his work COWARD and not leave your name and number. Why did you say that he parks there every night? Were you trying to get him fired? Why don't you go and pull weeds or pick up dog poop or cigarette butts that are scattered all over? I am heartbroken that we own our house yet our son is not allowed to live with us two nights a week now you have to make waves because he parks here a couple of hours when it is still light outside so he can have dinner and shower those two days. Shame on you! | | | |
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RichTig
Posts:0
| | 06/25/2008 1:49 PM |
Alert | Wow. Your neighbor is a dick. | | | |
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ROCKmeHARDPLACE
Posts:147
| | 06/25/2008 1:53 PM |
Alert | | Yeah, what he said. | | | |
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Sedona Gal
Posts:50
| | 06/26/2008 9:33 AM |
Alert | | Thanks for the support, I noticed in my original I put 4 to 10 it was 4am to 10pm too late for the mechanic to come out. I can't believe people are so cruel. I would love to find out who this idiot is. | | | |
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RED04
Posts:13
| | 06/26/2008 12:09 PM |
Alert | | Hi Sedona Gal - I always see the Orowheat truck parked at the Duke. Maybe you could see if the Duke would allow your son to park there on the nights that he has to take the work truck home. Too bad your neighbor is a jerk! | | | |
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jeeptj02
Posts:122
| | 06/27/2008 4:04 AM |
Alert | | BURN HIS HOUSE DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!! HAHAHA seriously people need to get a life! this is why HOAs are a crock of horse crap... | | | |
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Sedona Gal
Posts:50
| | 06/27/2008 11:22 AM |
Alert | RED thanks for the suggestion but I'm afraid it's too late he's in his routine and I know he won't do that. He leaves at 4am so we would have to drive him there in the morning then pick him up when he gets back which isn't convenient because we'd have to always be on call those two days. Our HOA really made me mad when we wrote to them after about a month they finally wrote back, they said "park it in your driveway" Real smart since it would be hanging out in the street so that would defeat it's purpose. They gave no other alternatives or solutions. I am so disappointed in our HOA with the money we pay. I will tell you this, I will find out who he is come hell or high water so I can tell the chicken poop what I think of him.
Thanks for the support. | | | |
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desertgal
Posts:142
| | 06/27/2008 5:11 PM |
Alert | I feel sorry for your situation Sedona Gal. I, myself, may be a lot of things, but I don't spy and snitch on my neighbors. I draw the line there. I think a lot of people are beginning to realize that HOA-communal living (and that's what it is) is not all it's cracked up to be. You really don't have any right to do what you want with your own house. Someone else is regulating your life. Hopefully, eventually this issue of HOAs will go to some higher court, and they will rule that they are unconstitutional (which they are). | |
Proud conservatives happily living on our acreage in the beautiful mountains of Hidden Valley with no HOA. | |
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Sedona Gal
Posts:50
| | 06/29/2008 2:05 PM |
Alert | | I so agree with you, I understand about not wanting a truck parked in front of their house, but a few hours and you get this freak calling and complaining. Heck a lot of people have trucks parked out in front doing services for the residents a lot longer than my son is parked here. Whoever did this should be so ashamed of themselves. I feel so bad that there are so many rules like the basketball hoops and things like that. You buy a house for your family and who ever did this ruined mine. | | | |
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mychoice
Posts:24
| | 06/29/2008 2:40 PM |
Alert | | My son did the same thing in Ahwatukee and we got a letter. His truck was in our driveway from 10pm til 6 am. ONLY ONCE and we received a letter. We figured moving to Copa that stuff wouldn't happen. Sorry it happened to you. I know it is very frustruating. I have always said if I find out who it is, they will have a pile of dog poop on their front step some evening. | | | |
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mcolacino
Posts:38
| | 07/05/2008 1:59 PM |
Alert | What's equally as stupid is that they built these houses so close together and the streets are so narrow that it is dangerous to have guests park their cars in front of your house! Equally mind-numbing is that the driveways are slanted (to save space, of course!) I can't have my child ride her bike on the driveway, as she will roll smack into the street!
Sorry to be off topic, but the HOA has to consider the physical limitations. Why isn't there an area set aside at the end of a block so that oversized vehicles, as well as guests, could safely park? All the HOA can do is offer nasty letters without trying to think of a sensible resolution. I guess that's also what you get when your average HOA rep is just flunky who has no idea how to deal with people on a professional leve. | | | |
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Tio Junior
Posts:172
| | 07/06/2008 3:17 PM |
Alert | Sedona Gal - I understand your situation and it sucks that someone called your sons work - that is uncalled for. However you do have to realize that the HOA is in place to protect home values. If every neighbor parked their work truck in their driveway and every neighbor had trailers parked in their driveway and on the streets, then the aesthetic value of the neighborhood goes down and so does the property values because most people don't want to live around that kind of stuff. I realize your son doesn't park there all the time, but somehow someone knew the truck belonged to your house so I'm guessing this isn't the first time the truck has been parked there or somewhere near your home. You also just got a notice to move the truck - not a fine, so calm down.
mcolacino - - - The houses are built with a slope so your lot drains properly - not to save space. Streets in Maricopa are not narrower than streets anywhere else in a residential neighborhood (yes I'm sure there are some exceptions).
You also have to realize that the builders put the CC&R's in place - not the board members serving your HOA. The board members and your HOA company are there to uphold the CC&R's. You agreed to abide by the CC&R's when you moved to RED. Your board members are elected by the residents in your community and are not paid for their efforts. Being on an HOA board is a thankless job and if you want your voice heard, you need to attend an HOA meeting and speak your mind. By the way, "your average HOA rep is just a flunky" statement is uncalled for and do you even know any of the HOA members? I don't think calling people you don't even know names is not very becoming of you and your words don't show that you can deal with people on a "professional level." Most HOA members are elected because they have professional experience and if RED elected all high school drop-outs then you probably should have voted - did you? | | | |
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mcolacino
Posts:38
| | 07/06/2008 5:29 PM |
Alert | The property grading has nothing to do with the size of the lots! They crammed us all in so that Maricopa (which wasn't a city at the time in 2002) could maximize the number of houses to collect property taxes and so that the builder could also achieve a nice profit margin. And as of the HOA being put in place to protect property values: that's another socialist myth. What sells a home is location, location, location. If the HOA is there to protect my home value, how come its price is back down to the original cost back in 2002? How come seven of my neighbors on my block have their houses for sale for months and months (one in foreclosure, the second to happen in six months)? And don't tell me that I shouldn't have moved here. I am from back East, where people take their neighbor problems to the town, not an HOA. With an HOA, people don't resolve issues amongst themselves, they sneak and tattle tell on their neighbors. | | | |
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Tio Junior
Posts:172
| | 07/06/2008 10:29 PM |
Alert | mcolacino - I'm not sure why I am going to bother replying to you because I don't think I will be able to talk any sense into you, but I'm giong to try.
Do you know what property grading/drainage is? Property grading/drainage is the slope of your lot so that water drains from the back of your lot around the sides of your house, out into the street. I am well aware that grading is not the same thing as lot size. You are right that the builders built the houses as close together as possible to maximize profit. Do you blame them? If you thought the builders crammed houses so tightly, then why did you purchase?
If HOA's aren't in place to protect property values and maintain the neighborhood, what were they put in place for and why does every new community have one? If HOA's are worthless, why do home builders continue to put them in place for new communities? Builders do not make money off of hiring HOA companies to maintain these properties. In fact, the builders have to pay the monthly assessment for all open (non-built) home sites until the new home owner closes on the home. Where is the benefit for the builder in that? The benefit is that most people like HOA's and want to make sure an HOA is in place so scum bag neighbors don't pollute the neighborhood with commercial trucks and trailers and RV's and weeds and pink houses and broken down cars in driveways and on the streets.
If you truly think an HOA controls the entire real estate market then you might want to join Alice in Wonderland. HOA's have absolutely no power over the real estate market. You know what, instead of me trying to explain this to you, go onto www.google.com and type in "HOA's" and brush up on your knowledge.
If you are going to complain about the HOA, then why did you purchase where you did? I don't care where you live. The point is you are complaining about being in a situation that you put yourself in. I don't know exactly what you mean by you bring your problems " to the town" but whatever works for you.
One last thing, people tattle on their neighbors usually because they are sick of seeing their neighbor violate the CC&R's which they are probably abiding by. I personally pick my weeds in my front yard. It irritates me when other people don't. If I didn't pick my weeds, it probably wouldn't bother me that other people didn't either. Misery loves company. I love a clean neighborhood and appreciate what HOA's do. You obviously have no idea what HOA's do, so I would advise you again to go to a HOA meeting and see what goes on. Maybe you won't have so much hostility. | | | |
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Sedona Gal
Posts:50
| | 07/07/2008 11:47 AM |
Alert | | Tio, thank you for your comments, the jest of what I said was that the truck is only here from 4pm to 7pm on Wed and Thurs. which is not illegally parked for those three hours. I did call the HOA to find out where else we could park the truck on those two nights and the only thing they said was to park it in our driveway. No alternatives or anything else. The guy who called my sons work said it was parked there every night which was untrue. Two days only three hours enough time for him to shower and eat dinner that's it. The jerk who called had no reason whatsoever to call except to be a jerk. We follow all the rules though some we do not care for especially the garbage pick up only once a week. I believe we should have been able to vote on that and also the basic cable. Aside from that I am not a complainer. I just don't like when people do hurtful things to other people. That was my point. | | | |
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mcolacino
Posts:38
| | 07/07/2008 1:08 PM |
Alert | Tio: I don't think that the HOA controls the real estate market. You stated earlier "However you do have to realize that the HOA is in place to protect home values." So who's in wonderland?
Back East, when we had a problem with a neighbor, we confronted the neighbor. If things got out of hand, you contacted the town.
We moved out to Arizona for a better quality of life and found that the only affordable places included developments with HOAs. Virtually every developer sets up an HOA, I think because they want the neighborhoods to look well manicured, the houses look nice and neat, etc., while they are still building new homes so as not to give prospective new homeowners any negative vibe to buying a home. Once the developer is out, the homeowners gain control. I think that the HOA should have been terminated and the city should have taken over.
HOAs are a third layer of governance! We give money over to this entity that we ultimately can't control. We can't elect these people and a majority has to vote to get rid of it. Most of the time, that never happens because most people just tune out and try not to make waves.
Correspondence that I have had with this HOA and the preceding one have been met with rudeness and arrogance. They sent me a letter because I had a green plastic chair on my front porch! How did that adversely affect the property values of the homes around me? How was this an effective use of my HOA dues? | | | |
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Tio Junior
Posts:172
| | 07/07/2008 2:36 PM |
Alert | Hi Sedona Gal, obviously I'm reading this as a 3rd party so I try and see it from all sides. I don't personally see anything wrong with your son parking there for a few days a week for a few hours, but there is a neighbor who doesn't like it and is willing to do anything to get it to stop.
Your neighbor is either evil and is willing to lie to get the truck not to park there, or your neighbor is only home for the days your son parks there so the neighbor assumes the truck is there 7 days a week? I'm just guessing.
Unfortunately the builders don't set aside areas for truck parking because there shouldn't be any trucks for long periods of time and the builders don't want to waste any land that they could be building houses on.
Good luck with your neighbor! | | | |
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Tio Junior
Posts:172
| | 07/07/2008 2:53 PM |
Alert | mcolacino - What is wrong with my statement and what makes you think I am in Wonderland?
"However you do have to realize that the HOA is in place to protect home values." So who's in wonderland?.... Did you look up "HOA's" on Google and see why HOA's are put in place?
I agree with you that neighbor's should go to one another if they have an issue. This is the first HOA neighborhood I have ever lived in and I haven't had any issues. I know all of my neighbors so there isn't any tattling on one another to the HOA in my case. Cities do have city codes and ordinances that do much of the same thing an HOA would.
I'm glad you moved to Arizona and I hope it is everything you want it to be. I'm not trying to be mean to you, but I want you to understand that HOA's aren't the devil and you do have a say in what the HOA does but you have to go to the meetings and voice your opinion. The people on the HOA board are people just like you and me that live in RED and are there to represent the residents of the community. They shouldn't be hostile and arrogant towards you unless you are that way to them.
I don't know about your green chair unless it was big and ugly and was an eyesore. I have two chairs and a table and flower pots out front of my house and the HOA (different neighborhood) doesn't give me any issues and lots of people have furniture on their front porch's.
If you are concerned about where you HOA dues are going, you can get a copy of the financials by calling your HOA company. RED might have a website that can also display the information.
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thick
Posts:192
| | 07/09/2008 2:56 PM |
Alert | | What a cruddy neighbor, Sedona Gal. I hope the call did not cause trouble for your son at work. Based on your post, I'd suspect the neighbor whose house he parked next to, but you never know who was irritated. Maybe you could let all your neighbors know your situation, and they'd be more sympathetic in the future? I can't imagine being up in arms about a few hours a couple days a week or even an occasional overnight, but some people just like to be jerks. So sorry, and good luck. | | | |
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RichTig
Posts:0
| | 07/10/2008 6:01 AM |
Alert | Great idea. You should talk to your neighbors and explain whats happening. You might even to be able to discern which one ratter you out, based on their reaction when your talking to them. Then you know who to call the HOA on, everytime his trash can is out too long or when 1 weed grows in his yard. | | | |
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