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CODEBLEU
Posts:306
 | | 09/06/2007 7:57 AM |
 Alert | | your salutation.... | | | |
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| | carouselncopa
Posts:133
| | 09/06/2007 9:00 AM |
Alert | Osgoodsnog,
Actually Tim White notified both the former superintendent and the board of his interest in City Council during a school board meeting. Were you unaware of that?
I fail to see the relevance. Wonder how Jim Chaston plans to be board president and MAYOR at the same time. Hmmm
Lees2,
It is not a state law on no junk food. The state requirements are that "junk food" not be served. The wellness policy was written by the district and is certainly not how other districts have approached it. I, however, am quite happy that we are encouraging our young people to have healthy habits. It is also allowable for homemade treats to be served. Pinal County Health does require that any homemade treats that are served be served with a disclosure statement stating that they were made in a kitchen without Health Dept standards. Santa Rosa and Santa Cruz both allowed cupcakes last year be taken to children for their birthdays, so the inconsistencies continue. Thus the ongoing board discussions on what is rather an irrelevant educational topic.
Jessica Calliope | | | |
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| | CODEBLEU
Posts:306
| | 09/06/2007 9:42 AM |
Alert | The relevance is in the resumes. It's that simple. Perform your due dilligence as a member of this community and then ask yourself. Gezzzz, should I vote for an individual who is uneducated to serve on the board or should I vote for an educated person to sit on the board? Saunders is educated, White is not! Ask a kindergarden student this question and even they can get it right!
Yours in Common Sense,
Commander Codebleu
Educated or Dropout, your childs future depends on the choices you make.
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| | carouselncopa
Posts:133
| | 09/06/2007 10:11 AM |
Alert | Codebleu,
I appreciate your comment above. I think they is greater depth to the generalization you are trying to make. I will not discount any candidate simply on the basis of a piece of paper because I believe actions speak louder than words. I have known many highly educated people that provide great wisdom in their decision making, are ethical, and have forethought and vision. Likewise, I have known uneducated people that really defy understanding as to how they are able to find the grocery store two weeks in a row.
But I caution, this nation was founded on men and women with just elementary education. More to the point, I have known those that possess doctorate level degrees that are incompetent, unethical, and have no vision to speak of. I have also known those that struggled in school to get through the most basic lessons that have through life, hard work, and effort become successful visionary leaders, businessmen (or women), government officials and the like.
Names that come to mind: Bill Gates college drop out, my Grandfather (owner of a multimillion dollar corporation) completed 6th grade, Simon Cowell of American Idol high school dropout, John Mackey of Mackey foods multi college dropout, Ron Popeil high school dropout owner of Ronco, Russell Simmons college dropout billionaire, Sir Alan Michael Sugar high school dropout billionaire owner of multicorporations... list goes on
Article on AskMen.com, quote:
Where there’s a will there’s a way,
If there is a lesson to be learned from the lives and careers of successful dropouts, it isn’t that dropping out of school is always a good idea. Rather, it’s that dedication and hard work -- whether applied at school or at the proverbial school of hard knocks -- will always prove rewarding if you believe in your dream and work hard to achieve it.
Jessica Calliope | | | |
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| | joyintheroses
Posts:89
| | 09/06/2007 10:52 AM |
Alert | Jessica,
It is no wonder you are a successful businesswoman! You are a person with vision and wisdom in appreciating the "abilities" that people from various walks of life, can bring to the work place table. If there are any openings in your firm let me know, I'd like to be on your team!
Meanwhile keep posting!
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| | Chuck
Posts:62
| | 09/06/2007 12:17 PM |
Alert | Posted By carouselncopa on 09/06/2007 10:11 AM
"More to the point, I have known those that possess doctorate level degrees that are incompetent, unethical, and have no vision to speak of."
Isn't Bill Clinton a Rhodes Scholar?
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|  | CODEBLEU
Posts:306
| | 09/06/2007 1:39 PM |
Alert |
Educated or Dropout?
So easy a kindergardner can figure it out!
Yours in Common Sense,
Commander Codebleu
I really dont think any of your examples were what a rational individual would consider comparing apples to apples. Now Im sitting here smoking my Cigar and drinking Cognac trying to figure out how you compare White with the likes of Bill Gates. Thats a stretch at best and even Gates finished highschool. I do understand the point your trying to make but you will have to find some grade school dropouts to do it. Ones that sit on school boards in other towns would be wonderful. | | | |
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| | DesertNewbie
Posts:531
| | 09/06/2007 3:27 PM |
Alert | Posted By CODEBLEU on 09/06/2007 9:42 AM
The relevance is in the resumes. It's that simple. Perform your due dilligence as a member of this community and then ask yourself. Gezzzz, should I vote for an individual who is uneducated to serve on the board or should I vote for an educated person to sit on the board?
Chaston has a degree....'nuff said. | | | |
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| | carouselncopa
Posts:133
| | 09/06/2007 7:45 PM |
Alert | DesertNewbie,
Well said, I will assume that Codebleu has one as well in his own mind. If he cannot make the connections then perhaps a remedial course is in order.
Yours in education,
Jessica Calliope | | | |
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| | Pepperdog
Posts:233
| | 09/06/2007 9:50 PM |
Alert | I keep laughing that LBB keeps posting on this thread as he has sworn he wouldn't more than once. Just goes to show you that you cannot trust what he says.
Hey Little Boy Bleu. Love that shovel you write with. Again your trolling posts add nothing to the debate except continued put-downs. I can tell when you start hitting the bottle as you make less and less sense. You must really be challeneged to not understand Jessica's post and that is truely sad. I would though, for your own credibility, quit challenging the ignorance of others, it's like sawing wood with a dull blade. (in case you don't get it...It means it takes a long time and it doesn't do a very good job.) Unless of course you like trolling.
Hahaha!
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Anyone who advocates a "one" world government, a "one" social order, or a "one" enviroment is a communist trying to take away your freedoms. Nature celebrates diversity! | |
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| | Pepperdog
Posts:233
| | 09/06/2007 10:37 PM |
Alert | To answer a previous question: I am offended by the method of the recall. I do not believe Tim White is our savior. I do believe that Tim White is doing what he is supposed to do as a board member and most others are not. It is the job of the Board to hold the district and the Super accountable.
We have 3 who are up for re-election soon. There is no need to recall them as we can simply vote them out of office and replace them with people who are willing to ask questions and demand performance.
I am especially offended that the recall is not based on merit but on personality and education level. These are not grounds for the recall of a duly elected, these issue were known prior to the election and the guy was still was voted in. He does have experience. I have seen other sucessfull school boards who are far more combative than this one and still they get the job done. Of all the problems our schools have, the ability for the school board members to get along with each other and the Super is probably at or near the bottom of the priority scale. I am especially offended that the person he got more votes than is participating in this. It is unseemly, tacky overly political and not traits I value in a school board official. I would have far more respect if this person had remained above the issue.
What bothers me the most though is the injustice. This man has done nothing to merit this. I have not heard anything that he has done to damage this district and yet this district has so many problems that are not talked about. Our local media has not seen fit to give honest, investigative reporting on EITHER side of this issue. Instead, most of our local papers shoce to ignore the problems and focus the man's education and personality. It is appalling when our district has so many other problems that need to be addressed. We have issues with transportation, funding, teacher retention, morale, special education, gangs and violence, grafitti, over-croweded classrooms and many other issues. Are these brought ot focus? Is the district being held accountable for its actions by our media? No, we get a "small bump in the road" and a whole lot of gossip about the personal life of one board member. It is an outrage!
It is the sole reason why this forum is like it is. This is the only place school issues can come to light and sadly the school is allowed to ignore it. Our local media allows our school system to operate in a vaccum and not be held accountable to the community. I really don't understand it either.
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Anyone who advocates a "one" world government, a "one" social order, or a "one" enviroment is a communist trying to take away your freedoms. Nature celebrates diversity! | |
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| | carouselncopa
Posts:133
| | 09/06/2007 10:50 PM |
Alert | Pepperdog,
What you said, times three! Well said and very professionally said at that.
Jess | | | |
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| | CODEBLEU
Posts:306
| | 09/07/2007 9:07 AM |
Alert | Jessica,
Believe me when I tell you, I GET IT! Apparently so do 700 other people living in this town. It's so simple even a Kindergardner GET's IT!
Unfortunately, its just a few here that are missing the boat. Most of the town however is starting to understand.
Yours in "COMMON SENSE",
Commander Codebleu | | | |
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| | CODEBLEU
Posts:306
| | 09/07/2007 9:16 AM |
Alert | By the way Jessica,
Don't be upset with me, I am only trying to help you understand the logical choice here.
I really have no hard feelings, and I hope that sentiment is mutual. Perhaps in the future we can share some Cigars and Cognac.
Commander Codebleu,
"So simple, even a Kindergardner GET's IT." | | | |
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| | DesertNewbie
Posts:531
| | 09/07/2007 9:42 AM |
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| | DesertNewbie
Posts:531
| | 09/07/2007 9:42 AM |
Alert | | How did it go from 650 people getting to 700 people getting it after the deadline date for people to "get it"? | | | |
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| | joyintheroses
Posts:89
| | 09/10/2007 9:17 PM |
Alert | desert,
how did it go from 650 to 797 overnight? intimidating parents at curriculum night that's how...
That was against school district policy if you do not have the superintendents permission to do so and /Flores states that he did not give anyone permission. I hope this is challenged for the mere dirty politics that it was.The unbiased forum reporter (who herself I am told is part of the recall committee) ends her article by announcing to the Maricopa public that this debacle is not the last...it reads: According to Romero, “IMPACT RTW will reorganize with a different ending. Our vision is to become a permanent organization that will remain as the voice of the voters in Maricopa.”
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| | DesertNewbie
Posts:531
| | 09/11/2007 2:48 PM |
Alert | | I hope the new mission will cause a name change....IMPACT RJC....followed by the other new group IMPACT F(ire)JF. | | | |
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| | Rabbit
Posts:250
| | 09/12/2007 3:11 PM |
Alert | <div class='NTForums_Quote'>Posted By CODEBLEU on 09/06/2007 1:39 PM
Educated or Dropout?
So easy a kindergardner can figure it out!
Yours in Common Sense,
Commander Codebleu
I really dont think any of your examples were what a rational individual would consider comparing apples to apples. Now Im sitting here smoking my Cigar and drinking Cognac trying to figure out how you compare White with the likes of Bill Gates. Thats a stretch at best and even Gates finished highschool. I do understand the point your trying to make but you will have to find some grade school dropouts to do it. Ones that sit on school boards in other towns would be wonderful. </div>
this thread is fun.
just to add some fuel to the fire, codebleu...here is an example for ya...
"In 1894, when Einstein was fifteen, his father's business failed, and the Einstein family moved to Italy, first to Milan and then, after a few months, to Pavia. During this time, Albert wrote his first scientific work, "The Investigation of the State of Aether in Magnetic Fields".Ζ] Albert had been left behind in Munich to finish high school, but in the spring of 1895, he withdrew to join his family in Pavia, convincing the school to let him go by using a doctor's note."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einstein
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"Sometimes I think you have to march right in and demand your rights, even if you don't know what your rights are, or who the person is you're talking to. Then on the way out, slam the door." | |
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| | osgoodsnog
Posts:55
| | 09/12/2007 7:21 PM |
Alert | Einstein was quite a while ago. Schools are different. Attaining education is different. Compairing this to the aformentioned board member is quite a streatch.
Did Mr. White ever get his GED or did he give up on improving his education all together. My own mom dropped out at grade 6 while living in a foreign country. She had to help support her 7 siblings during the war. She was a very successful business woman. I wonder what Mr. White's story is regarding why he turned off his path of education. Grades? Family emergancy? Family business? Expelled? I'm just asking a legitimate question that makes a difference in what makes him. Anyone know! | |
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