drummer72
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 Alert | <div class='NTForums_Quote'>Posted By pissedparent on 10/22/2007 8:36 AM
Here's an idea: I know it's a commute but send them to Columbine and then on to a fine college called Virginia Tech.
I see so many unprepared freshman at ASU because of "bubble parents” who have not prepared there kids for the real world. It CAN be a scary world but not letting them go to what is a great school because they may or may not get beat up it ridiculous.
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Columbine and Virginia Tech are probably the safest schools right now. Think about it...
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Colgate
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| | 10/22/2007 1:08 PM |
Alert | | So sorry, I could not leave my children to the wolves! I do try to teach my children to be street smart and make the right choices. I grew up in a big city with exposure to alot of sh@t and I moved my children here from the "BIBLE BELT". I guess hind sight is 20/20! I did pull my children from MUS for a darn good reason, I listen to my children 1st of all. Second of all, you can tar and feather me all you want, but if I really knew how bad things were out here I would not have made the life altering change! Not every place has gang affiliation so close to home, your average fist fights from time to time, yes. The non life threatening simple disagreements and little fights yes you have it in every school. We are talking violence here. There is a HUGE diff. I like AZ it is beautiful, however, I would have kept living my life in the simple little "BIBLE BELT" of the SE. Yes, the SE has it's share of problems too ( They think they are still battling the Civil War and you still have the KKK and all. Also Mexican Gangs.) however, my kids still did not have the exposure as they are now. I almost died when my 7 yr old last year came home from school and told me he was asked on the playgournd to be part of a crew and to take a red or blue painted stone I like to Sh#t! I'm telling you it starts early when the kids are supposed to be playing tetherball and all that wholesome stuff! The world is made of choices and we make many different ones for many different reasons and I am not putting anyone down for the chices they make just best of luck to all. | |
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alanf
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Alert | Good choice Colgate.  | | | |
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MamaKim
Posts:70
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Alert | | If parents and society would start teaching children that there are "consequences" for their actions and make the kids accountable for what they do we would not have as many problems as we do now. Back in the day you didnt see many parents reasoning with their children. If you did something wrong you were scared to death of Mom and Dad.. Not now alot of these kids have no respect and it starts at home. | | | |
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Sinbad
Posts:3052
| | 10/22/2007 1:33 PM |
Alert | <div class='NTForums_Quote'>Posted By CandyGir1 on 10/22/2007 12:52 PM
Sinbad, when you went to school was there as much gun violence accompanying the gang violence? (Ha,Ha - I'm not saying anything about age - I think we're about the same age) I'm not referring to the kind of violence that you mentioned above because like you said - it can be avoided and you can still enjoy school. My concern is gang violence here in Maricopa that seems to be escalating to gun violence. Specifically the gun on the middle school campus last year and the gun brought to the parking lot of the high school last week. That's when an innocent bystander can be hurt even if they are heading in the opposite direction like you said. In the case of the middle school incident an innocent honor student was caught right in the middle of that. Or what happens when these gangs start recruiting and are willing to hurt someone because he/she won't join? If my child is in a state of constant fear I will get involved and if he requests a different school - DONE. Children shouldn't have to feel like they are out of options and that they have to kill someone like HARRIS and KLEBOLD did (that one's for you - pissedparent).</div>
I have seen more gun violence than just two guns at school. I saw 20 guys carrying guns to a high school party ... that they weren't allowed in. I got the heck out of there.
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Sinbad
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Alert | As for be being older... What was that old saying about listening to your elders?
That's the number one problem with kids today!No respect for someone older than them! | |
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Sinbad
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Alert | <div class='NTForums_Quote'>Posted By Colgate on 10/22/2007 1:08 PM
however, my kids still did not have the exposure as they are now. I almost died when my 7 yr old last year came home from school and told me he was asked on the playgournd to be part of a crew and to take a red or blue painted stone I.</div>
Is that when you Yanked him out and sent him to another school? or did you talk with him about making the right choice in life?
I would have had the talk with him. I would have went to the school talked to the Principle and the kids parents about this. Last resort... Yank him out. Pretty soon .. let's just say age 11...he might not talk to Mommy about his choices.
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Digger
Posts:63
| | 10/22/2007 4:47 PM |
Alert | You can talk to your kids all you want but trouble in the small school systems finds you. Having conversations are healthy for the childs development but if an incident occurs and your childs is near they may not have the choice to make a right or wrong decision.
Cancer in a small area spreads throughout the body infecting the whole, and I believe the same applies here. Since the district does very little to remove the cancer the alternatives are limited. Making your student a part of a new student body that has less cancer is a reasonable choice.
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carouselncopa
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| | 10/22/2007 10:59 PM |
Alert | Big question: What are the superintendent and board planning to do to on this issue? Is anyone going to the board to voice their concerns?
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LoriR
Posts:36
| | 10/22/2007 11:40 PM |
Alert | <div class='NTForums_Quote'>Posted By twostep23 on 10/20/2007 8:32 AM
You don't think that this happens at every school???
Pulling your kids out of the school doesn't solve the problem it only covers it up. One person or one team can not change things. It takes the everyone wanting to see the change and doing something about it. Sure there will be the few incidents but get real they will never completely stop.
If you don't like what is happening then get involved. Get everyone involved.
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Seriously this is the first time I have read something about the schools that I truly agree with. If you want things to change, change things!
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Bionicbunny
Posts:608
| | 10/23/2007 12:34 PM |
Alert | <div class='NTForums_Quote'>Posted By Sinbad on 10/22/2007 1:43 PM
<div class='NTForums_Quote'>Posted By Colgate on 10/22/2007 1:08 PM
however, my kids still did not have the exposure as they are now. I almost died when my 7 yr old last year came home from school and told me he was asked on the playgournd to be part of a crew and to take a red or blue painted stone I.</div>
Is that when you Yanked him out and sent him to another school? or did you talk with him about making the right choice in life?
I would have had the talk with him. I would have went to the school talked to the Principle and the kids parents about this. Last resort... Yank him out. Pretty soon .. let's just say age 11...he might not talk to Mommy about his choices.
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Talking to your child about making good choices is of course a good idea but there are certain things that children should not be exposed to if you can at all help it. For example, you should certainly talk to your children about good touch and bad touch, but you would never knowingly put them in a situation where they would ever come in contact with a pediophile! Use the same reasoning here, if you know there is violence and gangs at the school, why would you knowingly put your child in that situation? Why should they have to worry about something like that? So they are prepared for the real world? What real world would that be? Sure, maybe if they are living on the inner city streets. But I don't remember living in fear of gang violence at college, nor do I now at my job. There is no need to add any more distractions to a school full of struggling kids with random incompetent educators. And there are too many issues all over the board for only a few smart, proactive, caring moms, who are obviously in the minority, to fix. | | | |
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stinkerbell2
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Alert | | Good point Bio Bunny! I only have one older daughter; I dont want to gamble or risk her education/life/mental/emotional well being so they can "work" things out! She came from a top ranked school...WHY wouldnt I want her to have that here? and MHS is not IT!!! NOT for her!! | | | |
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nancyj1922
Posts:150
| | 10/23/2007 4:08 PM |
Alert | Violence happens in all schools. You notice it said a car pulled up in the parking lot...were those people even students?
The Police Department responds to the school if there is a need for it. The SRO is not just going to hang out there on his own with a big problem.
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nancyj1922
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Alert | | oops forgot to say that I know at least in the past they practiced lock down drills at MUSD campuses. | |
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Digger
Posts:63
| | 10/23/2007 7:14 PM |
Alert | | Are the people who run the district doing anything to stop what's going on? I believe most of the time when the police pull up it's after a crime occurs. Better late than never seems to be the parental philosophy now days or at least it is in this town. | | | |
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hobson77
Posts:178
| | 10/23/2007 8:52 PM |
Alert | | Absolutely a parent should be able to yank and run. If your child is emotionally, physically or otherwise in danger, yank and run. You are your kids only advocate and source of protection, and they are only kids once. Emotional scars can last a lifetime and physical ones could be worse. The problems at the high school may be in other places as well, but our kids live here. It is unlikely that they are going to get every gang member, every drug dealer, every pissed off teen out of the school, but they could defiantly be doing a better job at it. The problem seems to be getting worse rather than better with this school and the teachers seem to turn a blind eye in the classrooms. You can not deny all of the crazy things that are going on at the high school, and just tell me, if these things were happening at your place of employment, would you stay? Would you want to go back day after day and try to get your job done correctly while looking over your shoulder? If your boss told you that it would get better, just suck it up, but nothing changed, what would you do? My point is that I highly doubt that major fights are going on daily at your work and I highly doubt that people are smoking drugs in the bathrooms in your work daily. So why should our kids have to go through this, what will it prepare them for in the future? There are many other challenges in a child’s lifetime that can help them learn hardships. | |
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DesertNewbie
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| | 10/24/2007 6:01 PM |
Alert | Hobson,
Would you care to join us in demanding the firing of the Superintendent, who is allowing the problem (as you put it) to get worse instead of better? If the BOE won't fire him, then would you care to join us in recalling all of them?
I know you're kids are pulled out (or at least I know that's what you were considering a while back), but would you still be interested in helping to clean up the school so they can go back to their friends? | | | |
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hobson77
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Alert | | Of course I would, the superintendent is a huge problem. I have personally spoke to him about a specific problem at a school, he told me that it was a very serious issue and guaranteed me a return phone call, and then nothing. If the super can't do his job correctly, why would he make anyone below him do there’s. | |
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DesertNewbie
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| | 10/25/2007 6:48 AM |
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nofreepass
Posts:56
| | 10/25/2007 10:54 AM |
Alert | | ELIMINATE SECTION 8!!! That's a start. | | | |
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