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skoko
Posts:47


 | | 04/10/2008 4:45 PM |
Alert | Posted By osgoodsnog on 04/09/2008 8:10 PM
one hour each way.... 2 hours a day
180 days of school.... 360 hour each school year in a bus on a dangerous road, never to be gained back in homework or education. This does not include the extra time if there is and accident ahead of the bus... Oh and I hope your elementary kid does not have to pee!
360 / 24 is 15 days each school year in the life of your child, spend on a school bus or equvelant to 45 eight hour work days... whichever make you feel more comfortable with this type of decision.
Stay in town and get involved if you can. Be a part of the child's education process, volunteer 45 days out of the school year as a reminder to yourself what a sacrifice you almost had your child make. Help our city and school district improve, share your talents where you can, and maybe your kids will imitate that character trait when they grow up!
Good luck with your decision. Either way may be a rough road, one wich may get easier, and the other will remain long.  This is so not true.... I know from personal experience that the ride to Milenio (on the bus) from Basha's takes 25-30 minutes, and the ride home to the last stop at Fry's takes 35 minutes. In the past 4 months (since the construction stopped) this hasn't varied much more than 5 minutes with the exception of one foggy day where it took an hour to get to school. Now this is for Milenio, but from my understanding Lago's only takes an additional 5 minutes (but I don't know that route from personal experience). Furthermore, the children sit with their friends on the bus that not only go to their school, but live in Maricopa insuring them friendships galore in Maricopa on off school hours and summer breaks. As for bathroom breaks, all of the bus kiddo's know to go to the restroom before the bus, and the teachers know to scurry them off to the restrooms before the bell rings. Now I had my kids at Santa Rosa, and then switched them to Milenio and they are only leaving the house 15 minutes earlier then they had at Santa Rosa. They do get home 45 minutes later than they had when at Santa Rosa, but the smaller class sizes (and yes yes I know this next year the classes are projected to have smaller class sizes here in Maricopa), the aids in all the Kinder classes, the K3 program, and the Homework program and the other bells and whistles you get from going to an established school in a more funded school district make the 45 minutes so well worth it for my family. Furthermore, during those 45 minutes my kiddo's get their homework done much of the time, or their reading minutes done, or play games with their peers, color, unwind, take a much needed power nap. It's not a bad thing at all. Everyone is so worried about your kids knowing peers out here. I can't go into the grocery store, etc without running into some child we know. I don't think you all know how many people actually go out of town for schools, but in reality we could create a school specifically for the kids leaving with the amount of kids that shuttle out. We also do girl scouts here in town, and do parks and recs sports. My kids are not feeling shorted at all, and the benefits sooooo out weigh the negatives. | | "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." ~ Dr. Suess | |
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| | dawnevans128
Posts:2

 | | 04/10/2008 9:48 PM |
Alert | We have two children and just moved to Maricopa from out of state. Our son, who is in high school, chose to go to MP. It was a good decision for him. He was active in volunteer activities, church activities, sports before we moved here and we've found a way for him to access those in Maricopa. He has met some kids here who also go to MP and that has helped. Most of his friends though live in Awatukee. On Fridays, he comes back to Maricopa, cleans up for a date or hanging out with friends and heads back up 347. I stay in touch with his teachers through e-mail. They have all been willing to keep me posted on his progress. It is difficult for us as parents to get to know his friends and their parents. He's driving and usually goes that way instead of them coming out this way. That is a definite drawback. We also have a daughter who needs a bit of special help. We enrolled her in the preschool at Santa Rosa and we couldn't be happier with the progress she is making. We had to work with the special education department for her evaluation and enjoyed that process. I would not have put her in public preschool where we lived before. I am very comfortable with our decision to put her in the Santa Rosa preschool. As you can already see from all the replies, each child is different and each family is different. Pray for wisdom in your unique situation and I think God will give you clarity. Stay involved in your kid's life and you will find that he/she will probably have a successful school career and probably a successful life. I would say that the hour a family spends together at the dinner table is as important as the school he/she goes to! | | | |
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| | Devil Dog
Posts:395


 | | 04/10/2008 11:43 PM |
Alert | | Last time I checked, There was over 900 students attending schools in Kyrene District alone. | | "Always Moving Forword" | |
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| | RichTig
Posts:1153


 | | 04/11/2008 5:58 AM |
Alert | Posted By skoko on 04/10/2008 4:45 PM Posted By osgoodsnog on 04/09/2008 8:10 PM
one hour each way.... 2 hours a day
180 days of school.... 360 hour each school year in a bus on a dangerous road, never to be gained back in homework or education. This does not include the extra time if there is and accident ahead of the bus... Oh and I hope your elementary kid does not have to pee!
360 / 24 is 15 days each school year in the life of your child, spend on a school bus or equvelant to 45 eight hour work days... whichever make you feel more comfortable with this type of decision.
Stay in town and get involved if you can. Be a part of the child's education process, volunteer 45 days out of the school year as a reminder to yourself what a sacrifice you almost had your child make. Help our city and school district improve, share your talents where you can, and maybe your kids will imitate that character trait when they grow up!
Good luck with your decision. Either way may be a rough road, one wich may get easier, and the other will remain long.  This is so not true.... I know from personal experience that the ride to Milenio (on the bus) from Basha's takes 25-30 minutes, and the ride home to the last stop at Fry's takes 35 minutes. In the past 4 months (since the construction stopped) this hasn't varied much more than 5 minutes with the exception of one foggy day where it took an hour to get to school. Now this is for Milenio, but from my understanding Lago's only takes an additional 5 minutes (but I don't know that route from personal experience). Furthermore, the children sit with their friends on the bus that not only go to their school, but live in Maricopa insuring them friendships galore in Maricopa on off school hours and summer breaks. As for bathroom breaks, all of the bus kiddo's know to go to the restroom before the bus, and the teachers know to scurry them off to the restrooms before the bell rings. Now I had my kids at Santa Rosa, and then switched them to Milenio and they are only leaving the house 15 minutes earlier then they had at Santa Rosa. They do get home 45 minutes later than they had when at Santa Rosa, but the smaller class sizes (and yes yes I know this next year the classes are projected to have smaller class sizes here in Maricopa), the aids in all the Kinder classes, the K3 program, and the Homework program and the other bells and whistles you get from going to an established school in a more funded school district make the 45 minutes so well worth it for my family. Furthermore, during those 45 minutes my kiddo's get their homework done much of the time, or their reading minutes done, or play games with their peers, color, unwind, take a much needed power nap. It's not a bad thing at all. Everyone is so worried about your kids knowing peers out here. I can't go into the grocery store, etc without running into some child we know. I don't think you all know how many people actually go out of town for schools, but in reality we could create a school specifically for the kids leaving with the amount of kids that shuttle out. We also do girl scouts here in town, and do parks and recs sports. My kids are not feeling shorted at all, and the benefits sooooo out weigh the negatives. Does your child's bus have seatbelts? | | | |
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| | *rikimaru*
Posts:388


 | | 04/11/2008 6:15 AM |
Alert | | who wants to eat chopped steak close to home when they can drive into town for a nice ribeye or porter house? exactly my point. the bus ride is not so bad from what i understand, also the education in KSD is superior by far to MUSD and right on par with LTS but with better amenities than both places imo. plus i save on gas&time with my kids going to lagos next yr. its a no brainer imo, plus no more $#%@! uniforms!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | | listened for, they cannot be heard;looked for, they cannot be seen; felt for, they cannot be touched: old ninja proverb | |
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| | MommyMac
Posts:43

 | | 04/11/2008 6:32 PM |
Alert | who wants to eat chopped steak close to home when they can drive into town for a nice ribeye or porter house? exactly my point. the bus ride is not so bad from what i understand, also the education in KSD is superior by far to MUSD and right on par with LTS but with better amenities than both places imo. plus i save on gas&time with my kids going to lagos next yr. its a no brainer imo, plus no more $#%@! uniforms!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I agree with you!!! I would not say the education is on par with Legacy, I pulled my son out of there because they were not meeting the state standards. I am happy to have my son at Lagos, he love it there and has made great friends. I also love that he can be an individual and wear whatever he wants - I hated the uniform thing as well! | | | |
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| | *rikimaru*
Posts:388


 | | 04/11/2008 7:11 PM |
Alert | Lagos is a fantastic school. lets just say june 13th cannot arrive fast enough  | | listened for, they cannot be heard;looked for, they cannot be seen; felt for, they cannot be touched: old ninja proverb | |
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| | D-Dub
Posts:65

 | | 04/11/2008 7:26 PM |
Alert | Hi MommyMac, I was just curious how do you know that Legacy is not meeting the state standards? Have seen a report? I thought those kind of reports do not come out until school has been in session for a full school year. If you have seen a report, can tell me when this report came out? just curious. Thanks | | | |
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| | MommyMac
Posts:43

 | | 04/12/2008 6:38 PM |
Alert | Hi D-Dub! I am a school teacher (currently on maternity leave) and have taught both kindergarten and first grade for the past 9 years. When my son was attending Legacy, the work he was bringing home and completing in class was not in alignment with the state standards, and was more of a reivew of the kindergarten standards. I have not seen any reports, nor do I think there are any out at this point. I just know that before sending my school there I met with the principal and asked many questions regarding curriculum, testing, accelerated learning, etc. and I feel that he "fed" me the answers I wanted to hear and not the truth. My final straw for pulling my son out of Legacy was when his first grade teacher told me that she did not think that anything in their first grade curriuclum would challenge him based off of his scores on the assessments given at the beginning of the year. She wanted to move him up to second grade, and that was just not an acceptable option for him in my eyes. He already is a young first grader. There were also a few other incidents that happened that just made me feel uncomfortable with Legacy, I am just not sure they are completly honest and up front about many things (buildings, curriculum, staff, etc.) Knowing the curriculum standards for first grade helped me make the decision to pull him out and put him in Kyrene. I was born and raised in Ahwatukee and went to Kyrene schools, so I know the education that my son is getting there is second to none. We love his teacher and he loves all of the friends he has made at Lagos that live in Maricopa. | | | |
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| | D-Dub
Posts:65

 | | 04/12/2008 7:49 PM |
Alert | | Thanks Mommy Mac for that info. After reading your original post I went on the Arizona State Education website and didn't find anything about it, so I was confused. Also I have both my kids at Legacy and they are both doing better here than at Pima Butte. So I guess what it boils down to is that at least we all have choices. | | | |
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| | alanf
Posts:1391


 | | 04/13/2008 8:19 AM |
Alert | Posted By D-Dub on 04/12/2008 7:49 PM
Thanks Mommy Mac for that info. After reading your original post I went on the Arizona State Education website and didn't find anything about it, so I was confused. Also I have both my kids at Legacy and they are both doing better here than at Pima Butte. So I guess what it boils down to is that at least we all have choices.
D-Dub, I am just curious (as a parent concerned about the school system) what you mean when you say your kids are doing better at legacy than they were at Pima Butte. Better grades? Better socialization? More excited about there course work? Less homework?
I'm just trying to understand everybodies opinions. I had heard that Pima Butte was doing very well.
I've heard parents say that their kids are doing better in MUSD than in other systems because they get better grades.... And that just doesn't qualify with me when the overall testing scores are sub-par. | | | |
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| | D-Dub
Posts:65

 | | 04/13/2008 4:32 PM |
Alert | alanf, I guess I should have been a little bit more clear as to what "Better" means. Before we moved down here my oldest attended school in the Peoria and Deer Valley school districts. I haven't checked recently but when my child attend schools in those districts they were ranked #1 and #2 in the state. Then we moved down here in 2005 and MUSD was ranked very low ( I can't recall where on the list they ranked but it was very low) I enrolled my son in Pima Butte and by the end of the first school year 2005-2006 his grades had dropped a lot. I know a lot of parents say this but my son is very bright and had always had scored high on tests and did well with his homework. So during the school year I would talk with his teachers and he would get tutoring and still his grades were not good. Mostly C's and D's. Then the 2006-2007 school year came and almost the same thing happened again except any time I would talk to the teacher she would just assign extra work ( which didn't help him at all since he was already struggling in certain subjects) So when Legacy started I was glad to find out that they were going to use Saxon Math ( which he had in the previous districts) As well as the Spalding for reading and writing. SO he is doing much Better this year at Legacy mostly A's and B's, and I feel that they are at the same level as what he was learning in the Peoria and Deer Valley school districts. I know we cannot base everything off of the AIMS testing but that does have a part in what tells you how a school is doing. So when we receive those test scores in the summer that should tell us a little bit as to how Legacy is doing as a school. Also I love the sizes of the classes there. The most that is in a class is 28 although most classes right now have anywhere from 18-25. I can only speak for my child and it is working for our family, but I have friends that probably will not have their kids at Legacy next year because the curriculum is too hard for their kids. Every child is different and Legacy will not be for every child and family. But like I said before at least we all have choices and we aren't stuck with sending them to only one school. | | | |
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