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CyndiWitczak
Posts:217
 | | 04/14/2008 8:21 PM |
 Alert | | I never thought of school as a place for kids to go for fun. I know when we were kids fun wasn't part of the curriculum. As for uniforms, some people complain that kids in uniforms can't express themselves. Kids are in school 6-8 hours a day. They have plenty of time to express themselves outside of school. Polo shirts and tailored shirts can be all cotton. Legacy has been a fantastic choice for our daughter and I sincerely hope that a high school is in their future. | |
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| | sjtrim
Posts:388
| | 04/14/2008 8:30 PM |
Alert | I am concerned that the CITY is always being blamed for Legacy's unpreparedness. Its not like they just thought of this last summer. They have actually had quite a while to get this ball rolling.
They've been trying since last summer to get the ball rolling. Ever since school started they have been working on getting permits to get the site ready. I'm not sure why you think that they are just now trying to get it done?
Maybe next year there will be more balance between homework and fun. This is the first year and I'm sure that they will find stuff that works and stuff that doesn't work and improve on it for next year.
I really don't think that they know what to say to parents about the new site and I'm sure that once work is being done on it and it starts being prepped, they will communicate that to the parents as to when they expect it to be done.
I haven't heard of one child doubting their worth. I'm sure that if they knew that, they would make changes to the homework policy, so the staff at school must not know that either. Like I said, my kids haven't thought for one minute that the homework is too much.
Why is my previous post all in a box? The only thing that is supposed to be are the first two sentences. Guess I don't know how to do quotes.
Cyndi- I agree with you 100%! | |
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| | DaybyDay
Posts:288
| | 04/14/2008 9:19 PM |
Alert | If even one child comes home and feels bad because they can't keep up...that's one too many. Its not my child. But, I have heard some (not many) say that the pace and curriculum made their child feel like they were "stupid."
In terms of fun in school. No school is not primarily for fun, but for learning. However, if it is as parents have said here, Kinders are overwhelmed with the work, then there needs to be some changes at that grade level. My children are in older grades, so I cannot speak to what Kinders do or don't do. I can say that my children are finished with their homework way faster than I thought they would be. Maybe that's because they just know what they doing because of the learning in the classroom. I would like the classroom culture to be a little less rigid.
Lastly, from my knowledge Legacy has been in the planning since 2004-05? Let's see we moved here in 2006 and I found out that they had tried and failed to open its doors a year prior because of one thing or another. My point is that, the idea to open the school didn't just start Jan 2006, but has actually been a working thought in someone's head since at least a year or two before then. Therefore, I would have thought they would have prepared a bit more and had all of this taken care of prior to school starting in 2006. As it stands, wasn't the permanent site supposed to be open already? At first, it was we will be at our site when school opens in August...then, it was fall break 2007, then no, maybe during Christmas 2007...ok, well, lets push that back to Jan 2008. Well, now, look...the permits! So, well, SILENCE. Silence is not golden and for those parents who are wanting to know what to do with their Jr. High students, I am sure they would like to know as well. | | | |
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| | MommyMac
Posts:47
| | 04/15/2008 8:54 AM |
Alert | I never thought of school as a place for kids to go for fun. I know when we were kids fun wasn't part of the curriculum. As for uniforms, some people complain that kids in uniforms can't express themselves. Kids are in school 6-8 hours a day. They have plenty of time to express themselves outside of school. Polo shirts and tailored shirts can be all cotton. Legacy has been a fantastic choice for our daughter and I sincerely hope that a high school is in their future.
I cannot believe that you never thought of school as a fun place to go for kids. Learning how to socialize and play is just as important in a young child's life as learning their ABC's, how to read, and how to memorize math facts, if not more. These are skills that your child will use throughout life, that can best be taught by being surrounded by a group of their peers. I firmly believe that all children are capable of learning, they just do it at different paces. I have taught in the public school system for 9 years (kindergarten and first grade), and I can assure you that my students all learned the curriculum, but we had fun doing it. We are talking about kids, and they deserve to have fun learning, and for the learning to be age appropriate. I can not think of one kindergarten or first grade student that I had in my time as a teacher that needed 20-30 minutes of homework every night. What is ridiculuous about that amount of homework, is the fact that most 5/6 year olds do not have the ability to focus on one project for that long.
I feel bad for your kids if they are not having fun at school, and I truly hope that they can see at some point in time that school should not be a boring place, but as a place to learn, grow and have fun exploring. Good luck at Legacy. | | | |
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| | *rikimaru*
Posts:485
| | 04/15/2008 10:35 AM |
Alert | | thank you mommymac, my sentiments exactly. that is why LTS is not right for us after this yr, my kids dont need to learn calculus in the 2nd grade, how about them have a slower pace, still learn grade appropriate curriculums&enjoy their day at school instead of writing thesis papers in the 4th grade? btw unis&non unis are not about expressing themselves imo, instead it is a legit gripe that a) just more $$$ i have to spend cuz some administrator wants a soldier mentality from the students and b) why cant they look nice at school instead of red one day, blue the next, followed by white the following day. wash, rinse, repeat.....BORING!!!!!!!!!!!! | |
listened for, they cannot be heard;looked for, they cannot be seen; felt for, they cannot be touched: old ninja proverb | |
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| | right_on_time
Posts:0
| | 04/15/2008 6:20 PM |
Alert | *rikimaru* - you were Legacy's greatest supporter on this forum before they opened last summer...always defending every word against them. I'm surprised now. In fact, I was honestly getting very nervous about Legacy last summer and you were always the one getting openly upset at others for "bad-mouthing" Legacy on this forum.
Anyways, our family loves Legacy. We were wary at first as many were with the building not coming together on time and the late start date. But, we are sure glad we gave it a chance. My 1st grader is thriving, loving school, reading chapter books that are labeled for ages 7-12 in the bookstore and he gets straight A's. I guess it's just his kind of school. His homework is done quickly after school (within 30 minutes) and it's just not a problem. Sure, nobody likes uniforms...but that's not a deal breaker for me. I can only see that Legacy will improve every year as it grows and becomes a great choice for our Maricopa kids. We will continue with them. | | | |
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|  | *rikimaru*
Posts:485
| | 04/15/2008 7:54 PM |
Alert | yes i did defend them but like i mentioned earlier, the luster of LTS has definately worn off. MUSD,LTS&KSD will all work for different familys so i respect everyones choices they make that they feel best serves their kids  | |
listened for, they cannot be heard;looked for, they cannot be seen; felt for, they cannot be touched: old ninja proverb | |
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| | drummer72
Posts:3626
| | 04/15/2008 11:14 PM |
Alert | Posted By *rikimaru* on 04/15/2008 10:35 AM
thank you mommymac, my sentiments exactly. that is why LTS is not right for us after this yr, my kids dont need to learn calculus in the 2nd grade, how about them have a slower pace, still learn grade appropriate curriculums&enjoy their day at school instead of writing thesis papers in the 4th grade? btw unis&non unis are not about expressing themselves imo, instead it is a legit gripe that a) just more $$$ i have to spend cuz some administrator wants a soldier mentality from the students and b) why cant they look nice at school instead of red one day, blue the next, followed by white the following day. wash, rinse, repeat.....BORING!!!!!!!!!!!! Maybe they're tired of kids in Arizona being so stupid? Haven't you seen the rankings? Arizona is dead last and that shouldn't be like that. | |
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| | *rikimaru*
Posts:485
| | 04/16/2008 5:50 AM |
Alert | | @drummer, i hardly believe arizona is dead last, probably mississipi is dead last. there are plenty of smart kids in all districts in arizona and if you cant see that or believe that, then maybe YOU are the dumb one? | |
listened for, they cannot be heard;looked for, they cannot be seen; felt for, they cannot be touched: old ninja proverb | |
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| | CyndiWitczak
Posts:217
| | 04/16/2008 6:18 AM |
Alert | | He is right! http://www.morganquitno.com/edrank.htm Look for yourself. This is the raking most referred to in education. Arizona has never been known for its quality education, it's actually known for the opposite. If we don't push our kids to achieve more than the minimum standards set by the lowest ranking state, it's never going to get better. My daughter is learning more about anatomy than my older daughter did last year in her honors anatomy and physiology class. Have we become so lazy that we no longer want our kids to excel because they might have to work for it? I say bring it on! | |
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| | RichTig
Posts:0
| | 04/16/2008 5:40 PM |
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*rikimaru*
Posts:485
| | 04/16/2008 7:46 PM |
Alert | | i would not trust a website that although it says arizona is last in education, to be the basis for calling our children stupid. so only LTS kids can go to college&a higher education, no other district can or has? if i had the time to dig around for the info, i would wager $$$ that tons of districts in the state have produced college graduates despite having gone through the lowest ranked education system in the country. snap right back at ya!!! | |
listened for, they cannot be heard;looked for, they cannot be seen; felt for, they cannot be touched: old ninja proverb | |
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| | MommyMac
Posts:47
| | 04/16/2008 8:26 PM |
Alert | Have we become so lazy that we no longer want our kids to excel because they might have to work for it? I say bring it on!
Cyndi - Your comments are beyond that of a normal parent who wants their child to be successful. You come off in your posts as being controlling and expect nothing less than perfection from your children. The fact of the matter is, is that we are talking about CHILDREN - not adults, not robots - CHILDREN. I think our society has come to a very sad state when it comes to what we expect our kids to do. When we were in school, kindergarten was about socialization, learning our colors, shapes, numbers and letters, playing dress up, and with playdough, making friends and solving problems. By fifth grade we were learning algebra and US history, but still playing games like "Heads Up Seven Up". We all turned out just fine! All children, when given the time and tools will succeed, especially when they have the support (not a parent who controls and expects perfection) of their parent.
As far as Arizona schools go, I know we rank down rather far on the list. Many of those lists are produced using funding provided by the state for education. If you want to complain about that get out and vote, or write to your representatives. I am an Arizona native, and grew up in Ahwatukee going to Kyrene schools for grades K-8 and then Tempe High Schools for grades 9-12. The education I got was great. I went to college and got a Bachelor's degree, then went on to complete my Master's degree as well. I am now preparing to start my PhD. The main problem is not the schools themselves, but the funding they are lacking. Don't believe all of the rankings you read, many of them are skewed using data that you are unaware of.
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| | right_on_time
Posts:0
| | 04/16/2008 9:56 PM |
Alert | My child does have fun at Legacy. I have volunteered for a couple class parties where they have played relay races, decorated cookies and played games. I also try to volunteer about once a week and I've seen the class playing a game called "around the world". Sure, it's with math facts...but it's a game nonetheless. I asked my child if he missed me at school and he said, "No way school is too much fun". I don't think cyndi is a "controlling" mother who demands perfection. She just wants a bit more challenge for her child...which is exactly what I wanted after experiencing kindergarten last year with MUSD.
I think everyone should just stop bad mouthing others choices. If you want a faster paced curriculum there's a school for you. If you want no uniforms then make another choice. If it's a more laid-back environment you want with not too much homework then choose something different. That's the beauty of living in America...all of these choices are ours for the taking. I personally would like to see people make choices that are right for them. Then the parents who aren't happy won't be hanging around whatever school I have chosen making everyone else miserable. | | | |
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| | drummer72
Posts:3626
| | 04/17/2008 12:32 AM |
Alert | Posted By *rikimaru* on 04/16/2008 5:50 AM
@drummer, i hardly believe arizona is dead last, probably mississipi is dead last. there are plenty of smart kids in all districts in arizona and if you cant see that or believe that, then maybe YOU are the dumb one?
They were dead last 2 years ago. I'll try and get you a link.
Sure, not all AZ kids are dumb, just the majority of them. We can thank our schools for that.... | |
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| | MommyMac
Posts:47
| | 04/17/2008 8:49 AM |
Alert | They were dead last 2 years ago. I'll try and get you a link.
Sure, not all AZ kids are dumb, just the majority of them.
We can thank our schools for that....
If you hate the school system here in Arizona so much, then why don't you take your family and move somewhere where they can be surrounded by the kids who are not dumb and the "great schools" elsewhere?
Get real - you bash on us for discussing different options for our children, but then you turn around and bash the whole state. You are a hypocrite!!!!!!!! | | | |
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| | CyndiWitczak
Posts:217
| | 04/17/2008 1:12 PM |
Alert | | MommyMac, I think you are taking the forum a little too seriously. | |
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| | MommyMac
Posts:47
| | 04/17/2008 1:39 PM |
Alert | Posted By CyndiWitczak on 04/17/2008 1:12 PM
MommyMac, I think you are taking the forum a little too seriously.
I am not taking the forum too seriously, but I am giving you my honest opinon, just like you have been doing over the past few days. Just because you do not agree with me, does not mean I am the one being "too serious."
I honestly hope that Legacy does for your children what you expect it to. I respect that you made that choice for your family. It did not satisfy my child's needs nor did they meet my expectations as a parent OR as a teacher. Please be respectful of the decisions the rest of us are making for our children, whether you agree or not. Life is too short to be so uptight.  | | | |
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| | CyndiWitczak
Posts:217
| | 04/17/2008 1:57 PM |
Alert | | It wasn't a reference to your opinion. I don't really care. I was referring to the name calling. When anyone on the internet reverts to name calling, it's time to back away from the keyboard and reflect. If no one had a difference of opinion, there would be no reason to have choices. I showed no disrespect by typing my opinion. | |
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| | *rikimaru*
Posts:485
| | 04/17/2008 2:14 PM |
Alert | | drummer72 is the only person i am confident in calling dumb, not any of the kids who attend schools in AZ. look the proof is in the pudding with all of the schools out here&in town. i for one am just thankful we do in fact have choices cuz i know there are areas of the country&world where parents dont have a choice and they have to settle | |
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