Sinbad
Posts:3046
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 Alert | <div class='NTForums_Quote'>Posted By nofreepass on 10/25/2007 10:54 AM
ELIMINATE SECTION 8!!! That's a start.</div>
I laugh at your Comment...
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
We can start by making people like PASS here more aware of the problem... because that's not the solution!
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Just doing it one day at a time. Change is good and it should be looked upon as an improvment! not a problem.
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Bionicbunny
Posts:594
| | 10/25/2007 11:45 AM |
Alert | <div class='NTForums_Quote'>Posted By nofreepass on 10/25/2007 10:54 AM
ELIMINATE SECTION 8!!! That's a start.</div>
Yes, because that is the root of the problem isn't it? I mean there is no problem with disrespectful kids with money who have a sense of entitlement. | | | |
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stinkerbell2
Posts:0
| | 10/25/2007 8:18 PM |
Alert | LOL this is comical!!!I am amazed at how ignorant some people are! Again I have to agree with you Bio Bunny!  | | | |
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Sp.ed.Tchr
Posts:142
| | 10/25/2007 9:07 PM |
Alert | sigh...
It MUST be the section 8 housing because how much money a person has certainly must determine how their child behaves...
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icon38
Posts:5
| | 10/26/2007 8:44 PM |
Alert | | How could anyone think that the reason the fight happened at the high school had anything to do with Section 8 housing? Parents need to control their children, the amount of money a person has does not determine the behavior of their children, I have seen many children that come from lower economic status homes behave much better than children who come from upper class homes, so it is not a matter of economic status that determines your childs behavior. Parents, know what your children are doing, listen to the schools when they contact you with a behavior problem, than your child will behave. It is not a rich versus poor thing, your children are hearing you say this and take on your attitude. Accept that not all people are alike but all people are trying, get off your high horse and be a parent, than maybe we can get the kids to do what is right. Children learn what they see, so start setting a better example for them. | | | |
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Digger
Posts:63
| | 10/27/2007 4:27 AM |
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goldy
Posts:71
| | 10/30/2007 2:14 PM |
Alert | | The school my son used to go to in another state had the same problems MHS has. Drugs, fights, gangs, all of that will find its way into all schools. It's a shame especially when the district turns a blind eye to what's going on. I worry about my son just being in school, any school. All of the bad stuff is in all the schools. I happened to drive by the school the day this happened and saw all those police cars and I called to find out what happened and was told it was 2 girls fighting. The problem with making our kids part of a new student body is who can they trust but I agree with you on that. Eliminating section 8 is the most prejudice comment I have heard. Some folks can't help the situation they are in, have disabilities, unable to work, maybe taking care of a sick parent. That doesn't make them bad people who raise bad kids. | | | |
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The Family Guy
Posts:69
| | 11/06/2007 9:24 PM |
Alert | I have a question. Has this incident been confirmed an act of "gang violence"?
Education issues aside, how can you be sure that your kids are safer in another school (Kyrene, Chandler, etc.) If I recall, the issue at Columbine had nothing to do with Gangs. These were kids from well-off families with some serious issues at home. These were kids whose parents were not involved in their lives and had no clue what was going on to the point where they were making bombs in their parents own garage. Could this not happen at any school anywhere?
I agree that there are some serious safety issues that need to be addressed here in Maricopa Schools but removing your children does not make them any safer. I moved here from NYC back in 2003. I worked at the World Trade Center on Sept 11. My first thought was to get my family as far away from that place as possible. So I came to AZ - a beautiful place, far away from terrorism? I wasn't here a week before hearing that I was living 50 miles from a nuclear power plant, considered to be a major terrorist target.
My point, this is the world we live in, running away from danger does not make you safer if there arent any safe places to go. We need to stand up and face this issue head on and teach our children that this is how you deal with issues in life. Our children will be the leaders of our communities some day, will they stand up and make change or run to a safer place? | | | |
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Devil Dog
Posts:411
| | 11/07/2007 1:09 AM |
Alert | My kids have been in the Kyrene District for 7 yrs - never had a problem with them - plus it's a great education system - That's why most of the kids from Maricopa go outside MUSD to other Districts.
As a parent safety comes 1st for my kids.
This has not been the 1st time school violence has happen at the MHS and i sure it will not be the last. MUSD is still behind the curve with to many kids in the district - "Too many Too fast".
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Mommyofthree
Posts:20
| | 11/13/2007 7:02 PM |
Alert | | For all of the complaining that goes on in here, how many of you have attended the monthly Parent Teacher Organization meetings? How many of you just rant here or at a school board meeting out for blood, if you will, instead of showing up at these meetings to actually participate in making change? Before I am landblasted, there was notice in the last report card that was sent home reminding parents about the meeting, and from what I understand, there was only 1 teacher, 1 parent and two administrators. You want change? Put your time in attending those meetings and making a difference instead of teaching our kids to rant negatively. I for one am going to attend the next meeting and do my part to be a part of the solution. I am not saying that things are perfect... they aren't. I'm not saying that the district chooses wisely, or doesn't lie. I am also willing to recognize that perhaps we jump to conclusions without having all of the facts... I am sure that I have been guilty of that on more than one occasion, but I am tired of complaining and not doing something about it. Who else is willing to step up and go to the next PTO meeting at the High School so that they can try and make a difference too? | | | |
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TheBoymaker
Posts:787
| | 11/13/2007 11:57 PM |
Alert | The lack of parent participation in schools is not the reason for the violence issues. This is a tired argument. If what you really mean is that parents need to pay more attention to their kids, then I'm completely behind you.
The schools tolerate too much from students and do not have the permission/ability to put the responsibility back on the parents to ensure that their kid is behaving in school.
Violence shouldn't be tolerated and bad kids should be kicked out. School is for learning, not for social work. | |
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Bionicbunny
Posts:594
| | 11/14/2007 8:31 AM |
Alert | <div class='NTForums_Quote'>Posted By TheBoymaker on 11/13/2007 11:57 PM
Violence shouldn't be tolerated and bad kids should be kicked out. School is for learning, not for social work.</div>
I completely agree, the kids causing trouble SHOULD be kicked out. This should be in writing and given to every parent. Once that parent has to make the haul out of Maricopa and/or pay a private school I guarantee they will take more of an interest next time in how their child is behaving at school!
I do disagree that school shouldn't be social though. It shouldn't be exclusively social, but peer interaction is a big part of growing up. Kids NEED to learn how to interact with each other, learn their limits with other kids as well as other adults. If you take the social aspect out of the school completely you get a military type academy. Homeschooled kids get the benefit of socialization with H.S. groups, field trips and get togethers during the school day, why shouldn't public school kids be able to learn what is socially acceptable by experience? | | | |
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Mommyofthree
Posts:20
| | 11/14/2007 5:10 PM |
Alert | A tired arguement? You are joking, right? Taking action against the violence is a tired arguement. Have you spoken to the teachers at that school? Parents taking an active role in their child's education is never a tired arguement. And while I agree that they need an alternative school to put the kids causing trouble in, why is this supposed to be a magic cure all? That costs money people. Where is that money going to come from? The state? The people who establish funding for a school based on day 100 from the previous school year?
Perhaps parents should gather and stand up together to push the state government for a better funding scenario so that we can get more security and an alt ed school. And yes, I agree with you that the lack of parent participation in their children's lives is one reason that we have violence issues in our schools. I proposed a new forum for us to rally together for our children to make change, to protect them and I am shot down. Okay... Either we can continue to gripe and do nothing or we can rally together for change. It takes a village to raise a child. I will be at the next meeting to give my two cents and try to help the school and community and more importantly, my children. How about you? | | | |
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uprvr
Posts:61
| | 11/14/2007 5:47 PM |
Alert | <div class='NTForums_Quote'>Posted By Devil Dog on 11/07/2007 1:09 AM
My kids have been in the Kyrene District for 7 yrs - never had a problem with them - plus it's a great education system - That's why most of the kids from Maricopa go outside MUSD to other Districts.
As a parent safety comes 1st for my kids.
This has not been the 1st time school violence has happen at the MHS and i sure it will not be the last. MUSD is still behind the curve with to many kids in the district - "Too many Too fast".
It's not called "Running Away" It's called "Being Smart"</div>
Hey Devil, Our daughter attended the Kyrene district for two years with no problems. She encountered all the same issues that are currently in Maricopa but to a lesser degree. Drugs, sex and weapons. What really matters is the friends thay hang out with.
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Bionicbunny
Posts:594
| | 11/14/2007 6:38 PM |
Alert | <div class='NTForums_Quote'>Posted By Mommyofthree on 11/14/2007 5:10 PM
It takes a village to raise a child. </div>
Oh my goodness if I hear that garbage one more time I think my head will explode! It doesn't take a village, it takes a parent to follow through with the commitment they accepted when they had a child. As a parent it is MY responsibility to keep that child safe, MY responsibility to keep that child fed, MY responsibility to make sure that child is educated. Not the responsibility of the school or the teachers or the state. It's mine. I decide if I want my kid to go to school in Maricopa or Kyrene or be homeschooled. Regardless of what Maricopa decides to do I have that responsibility to decide if it's good enough. Thankfully there are safeguards in place for kids with irresponsible, selfish, moron parents, but to me saying that it takes a village is putting that scapegoat at the ready. | | | |
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nitwit
Posts:95
| | 11/14/2007 9:55 PM |
Alert | | I have family who teaches in Kyrene. It's a good district. But I hear stories of fights, drug busts, gangs, and administration not dealing with repeat offending students for fear of law suits. Sound familiar? Is it in every school? Of course not. Are there a lot of good things going on there, you bet. I think every district is dealing with much of the same problems. Yes, the same problems our society is dealing with. The schools only reflect behavior that is occurring in our society. Are there gangs at a school? If so, there are gangs in the community around that school. Law enforcement agencies want more officers to help combat what they deal on a daily basis. Schools need more adults (especially role models) on campuses to combat what they face. The problem is, not enough money for the schools and no volunteers to help at the schools. Everyone is too busy trying to survive (working). Course we can spend 20 trillion dollars in Iraq (I believe that is a 10 year estimate if we stay) but that is a whole another subject matter for me. | | | |
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Devil Dog
Posts:411
| | 11/15/2007 4:47 AM |
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Hey Devil, Our daughter attended the Kyrene district for two years with no problems. She encountered all the same issues that are currently in Maricopa but to a lesser degree. Drugs, sex and weapons. What really matters is the freinds thay hang out with.
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Same here. Once the school officals are aware of the incident - swift action is taken.
Inter-action with your child is the best thing to have. It starts with the simple question "How was school today".
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Sinbad
Posts:3046
| | 11/15/2007 12:09 PM |
Alert | Parents need to control their children, the amount of money a person has does not determine the behavior of their children,
Just look at Briney Spears and Linsey Lohan... ha ha ha aha ha haha ha
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caveman
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| | 11/18/2007 12:26 AM |
Alert | | What did the teen do to get others to drive up and beat on him like that? | | | |
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Bionicbunny
Posts:594
| | 11/18/2007 9:19 AM |
Alert | <div class='NTForums_Quote'>Posted By caveman on 11/18/2007 12:26 AM
What did the teen do to get others to drive up and beat on him like that?</div>
caveman,
Your comment and your avitar go perfectly together! LOL! | | | |
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