Glamorous
Posts:26
 | | 10/16/2007 9:07 PM |
 Alert | Last Spring at Santa Cruz elementary they had a fundraiser that said it would arrive on a certain week and it happened to be a week later than stated on the paper that was included with the packet. (everyone that ordered from my son was a little upset by this)
Now its a new school year and they send a school fundraiser home again. The paper included in the packet stated it would arrive the week of 10/15. And what do you know, the school is saying it is going to be a week late AGAIN. The checks have been cashed for almost 2 weeks now and the stuff is going to be another week?
Now the school is sending home yet another fundraising packet. Do they really expect people to want to buy things from our children if they can't even get the delivery dates correct.
Am I the only one upset by this? Am I blowing this way out of proportion? Please respond | | | |
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momof2boys
Posts:75
| | 10/16/2007 9:58 PM |
Alert | Have you contacted the coordinator for that fund raiser and asked why it is late? It may be something beyond their control. There could be a back up with the company where the orders were submitted.
I think that if you or the people who ordered from you are that upset, then you should inquire about why it is late before assuming that it is the schools fault. | | | |
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Pepperdog
Posts:233
| | 10/17/2007 7:03 AM |
Alert | I don't think Glamorous is blaming the school for the stuff being late at all. Only that it is reflecting bad on the school that the stuff is late and was late last year too.
I don't like the many fund raisers and how the kids are pressured to sell. It's not just at this school district either. I see the same at others and also other states.
And please don't tell me how much the schools need the money. It is sad to me how all the school districts I know of now pimp themselves to companies who sell cheap products and give the kids cheezy prizes just to collect a few dollars. There has to be a better way.
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YZRacer
Posts:1653
| | 10/17/2007 8:18 AM |
Alert | I do not allow my children to participate in these fundraisers. The companies that do them are the only one's making money. Grandma buys a $20 roll of wrapping paper, student gets a gumball in return, school gets 50 cents. (i don't know the exact numbers, but you get my point). Not worth it.
I think it would be better if the school said "hey, we need $500 to get a new movie projector, we've figured that if each family could send in $5 then we'll be all set" I'd send a check for $20 and say "happy movie watching!"
I don't like the idea of "pimping" out my kids for these things. | |
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momof2boys
Posts:75
| | 10/17/2007 9:07 AM |
Alert | All I meant was that there may be outside circumstances as to why the merchandise is late. As far as them starting another before the merchandise from the first orders came in, I have no idea.
I dunno, it could be a issue with the company, not necessarily the schools fault about the delay in delivery. | | | |
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Glamorous
Posts:26
| | 10/17/2007 9:48 AM |
Alert | They used the same company for last year and this years fundraiser. And it has been late twice.
The new fundraiser they sent home is from the SAME company. So if it continues to be late, WHY would the school choose to use the same company?
I tried to get answers from the school, when I questioned why they sent a paper stating the week of 10/15, all they could say was 'it will be here next week, that is what the PTO is saying' Thats not good enough for me. Don't send a paper stating 10/15 if its really 10/22.
I only sell to people I/we know but I won't allow my son to sell another thing from the school fundraisers. It's just not fair to people that paid so long ago and checks were cashed 2 weeks ago for the orders to be delayed a week. | | | |
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jodishwvr
Posts:9
| | 10/17/2007 2:41 PM |
Alert | I tried to get answers from the school, when I questioned why they sent a paper stating the week of 10/15, all they could say was 'it will be here next week, that is what the PTO is saying' Thats not good enough for me. Don't send a paper stating 10/15 if its really 10/22.
First os all, let me just say that you DID NOT hear anything from the PTO because WE are not the ones doing this fund-raiser, or any other one that has been done so far. The fund-raisers that have been done are by the student council and the PTO has no say in it, nor did we know anything about it. Just wanted to clear that up with everyone. | | | |
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Deannandave
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| | 10/17/2007 3:41 PM |
Alert | | This is why we would like to do a walk a thon, that is almost pure profit to the school, but the amount of hoops that we have to jump through to get any fundraising off the ground is ridiculous. Popcorn sales were in Jeopardy, because of the Health & Nutrition Guidelines. It is very hard to find something to raise money for the school, and make it almost pure profit. Believe me if you have any suggestions email the PTO, I am sure they would love to hear ideas. | | | |
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cactus flower
Posts:219
| | 10/17/2007 5:39 PM |
Alert | | If we get the orders in on time, then the orders will be here on time. Can't wait to get my box of candy next week. The same goes for the cookie dough orders. Turn in on time=Orders get here on time. | | | |
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cactus flower
Posts:219
| | 10/17/2007 5:39 PM |
Alert | | If we get the orders in on time, then the orders will be here on time. Can't wait to get my box of candy next week. The same goes for the cookie dough orders. Turn in on time=Orders get here on time. | | | |
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cactus flower
Posts:219
| | 10/17/2007 5:39 PM |
Alert | | If we get the orders in on time, then the orders will be here on time. Can't wait to get my box of candy next week. The same goes for the cookie dough orders. Turn in on time=Orders get here on time. | | | |
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cactus flower
Posts:219
| | 10/17/2007 5:42 PM |
Alert | | ooopppps....sorry for the triple posts. | | | |
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Glamorous
Posts:26
| | 10/17/2007 7:27 PM |
Alert | First os all, let me just say that you DID NOT hear anything from the PTO because WE are not the ones doing this fund-raiser, or any other one that has been done so far. The fund-raisers that have been done are by the student council and the PTO has no say in it, nor did we know anything about it. Just wanted to clear that up with everyone.
No need to get on your high horse. I NEVER said I spoke directly with PTO. I called the school and there response was 'it will be here next week, that is what the PTO is saying' | | | |
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Glamorous
Posts:26
| | 10/17/2007 7:38 PM |
Alert | My sons orders were turned in on time. The company that they go through cashed checks 2 weeks ago. There should be no reason for delay in delivering the stuff to the school on time.
How old are these kids in student council? I guess they must have arranged this by themselves then right? No adults had a say in the fundraiser(s)?
I've personally had no problems with Santa Cruz until now. My sons teacher is great. But the school in itself isn't very organized. If I didn't work full time, you better believe I'd be volunteering and being apart of the PTO. Unfortunately I can't.
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Deannandave
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| | 10/17/2007 8:34 PM |
Alert | | First of all I am glad your son's orders were turned in on time. However with almost 900 students not everyone can be as responsible as you. As for the Student council I know they are 5th Graders, 4th Graders, and MAYBE 3rd Graders. And yes there is adult supervision. A person who does Student Council, teaches, and handles a lot of other school functions. I am sorry to hear you are to busy to commit 2-3 hours a month to help PTO, yet you seem to think the Student Council Sponsor has nothing else to do. These teachers spend probably 10-12 hours a day at school eight of them with OUR kids, the other 2-4 grading OUR childrens work, and preparing for the next day. | | | |
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GoinCrazy
Posts:195
| | 10/17/2007 9:17 PM |
Alert | My son goes to Santa Cruz Elementary as well. I can honestly say that I am 100% satisfied with the school, the staff and their fundraisers.
In all honesty Glamorous, the only way I could understand getting so upset by this is if it was a week before Christmas and you were waiting to send something off as a gift to an out of state family member or something.
Is there nothing else in your life worth getting upset over? You have to get yourself worked up and stressed out for what? Some cheap fundraiser items? Aren't there bigger things to worry about? Aren't there bigger issues to stress yourself out over?
In other words, worry about something that is worth stressing over. The people that bought from your child will get their stuff, so settle down! What is one more week? | |
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Glamorous
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| | 10/17/2007 11:12 PM |
Alert | Its not like I'm saying I'm TOO busy committing to going out and doing absolutely nothing. I work 40 hours a week and commute to the city which is another 2-3 hours extra on my work day. I do this to support my family. Not every woman is privileged enough to stay at home to be a stay at home mom. If I worked earlier hours or when there wasn't traffic, sure I'd have plenty of time to volunteer or help PTO. School starts @ 7:30 am, I leave @ 8am. I get home around 7pm. So yes I have a LONG day Monday-Friday. Which would in turn allow me NO time to help the school out.
I'm not making excuses, it's life.
I'm getting upset because if they are going to take the time to send the paper with the fundraising stuff stating it will arrive on any certain date, it needs to be that date. So basically if you set an appt on any certain week, it would be ok for you to arrive the next week, right?
They aren't CHEAP fundraiser items. People spent alot of money on this stuff. All I'm saying is if they want people to buy from the fundraisers in the future they may want to make sure the date they are saying the items will arrive, will arrive on that date.
Obviously I'm getting no where with this forum. I got about as far as I did with the school regarding this issue. Thanks for everyones time. I had no problem with MUSD, but now I understand everyone elses concerns with this district and why they chose to send their children elsewhere.
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GoinCrazy
Posts:195
| | 10/18/2007 11:42 AM |
Alert | So basically, you are blaming the school and the school district for something that could be (and probably is) completely out of their control. I'm pretty sure the school didn't call the fundraising company and say we want our items on this day of this week. The faundraising company is who mandates the dates of received items.
What I am getting at is, if the COMPANY, not the SCHOOL is at fault, why point the finger at the middle man? Why blame the school and the district for something out of their control?
As I said before, stress yourself out about something that will make a difference in your childs life...not this. | |
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isntsheclever
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| | 10/18/2007 4:53 PM |
Alert | I wasn’t planning on responding to this thread. However, as more people post, I feel like adding my two cents.
I would like to open by asking if grammar and spelling are forgotten disciplines.
I think everyone here, including Glamorous, realizes that the school is not directly at fault for the current fundraiser items being late. However, perhaps the school should show a little initiative and try and find out why the shipments have been late. Perhaps they could even go a step further and notify everyone regarding the situation.
Regarding the response posted by jodishwvr; if you read the post made by Glamorous more closely, you will see that it was the school who told her that the PTO was saying the items were going to be late.
Also, how about we stop accusing each other (however subtle the attackers may think they are being) of not being good parents for not joining the PTO. And unless I’m missing something, no one was accusing the teachers of performing their jobs badly.
I think we all agree that this particular type of fundraiser is not the most lucrative investment for the school. It is true that the items sold are grossly overpriced, and the school itself sees too little of this money. Has anyone tried presenting alternative ideas to the school? Has anyone considered simply donating money? Has anyone considered the suggestion made by YZRacer? Would you be willing to simply send a check to the school? I know that if I received a letter similar to ‘hey, we need $500 to get a new movie projector, we've figured that if each family could send in $5 then we'll be all set,’ I would also be more than happy to send my child off with a $20 check. I don’t need overpriced wrapping paper or summer sausages to convince me to invest in my child’s education.
Why are people accusing this mother of “having nothing more important to worry about?” That’s just silly. Of course she has more important things to worry about. Maybe that’s why she doesn’t want to spend time fielding questions from friends and relatives who shelled out $20-$50 and would like to know where their purchases are.
Aren’t these forums supposed to be a place where people can post their thoughts and perhaps talk with other people who feel similarly? Or is it to get reamed by people who don’t agree with them? Don’t you want to create a supportive community for yourselves?
And to anyone who might feel the need to pick apart my response (and I’m sure there will be someone…): you are totally missing the point.
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DesertNewbie
Posts:531
| | 10/18/2007 6:09 PM |
Alert | <div class='NTForums_Quote'>Posted By isntsheclever on 10/18/2007 4:53 PM
I would like to open by asking if grammar and spelling are forgotten disciplines.
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Then, where is your question mark? Oh, wait. That's punctuation. Nevermind.
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