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Pepperdog
Posts:216
 | | 10/05/2007 9:43 PM |
 Alert | Did Michael Murriet resign?
If he did that would be sad day. I did not always agree with what he did but at least he took action. He was not one to sit around and do nothing while people were knocking on his door. I respected the fact the he prefered action over inertia.
Mike, stick around. You can make the difference. I know that you were placed in a situation where a lot of hositlity was created that you had nothing to do with. I am sorry that the district created a lot of animosity between the old staff and the management. I am sorry that they were more concerned about removing a board member than running the district. No one should have been put in the spot you were placed in but someone had to put there. It was hell but you were making progress. Good progress.
We have elections coming soon and maybe we can change things so we can have a board who will actually acknowledge then fix problems. A board who can not only support the district but hold it accountable too. The two do go together.
Say it ain't so Mike.
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| | Java Lover
Posts:0
| | 10/05/2007 9:49 PM |
Alert | | So sad for the district if he goes. Mike really cares about the kids and has the energy to move forward. But I guess if you are always butting your head against a brick wall anyone would give in eventually. So very sad for the kids. God bless you Mike and where ever you go and what ever you do. | | | |
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| | DesertNewbie
Posts:531
| | 10/06/2007 6:39 AM |
Alert | | Maybe, despite his intentions to do a good job, he realized that ultimately he was going to just be the fall guy for the district leader. History repeating itself. | | | |
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| | golf_rules2
Posts:0
| | 10/06/2007 9:15 AM |
Alert | Or maybe he was tired of the dramatics at the board meeting when he was preparing to give a presentation. Hmmmmm
And maybe he saw that things weren't going to get any better, since someone always insists on acting like a baby on the board.
Come on, aren't you guys tired of hearing one of the board members whine that he didn't get all his materials? Do you really believe that is possible? It would be stupid for those who prepare the materials for the school board to continually NOT give White key documents that the other board members get. No one is that stupid to do that. And it's pretty stupid to believe that crap from White. It doesn't add up, to me. | | | |
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| | joyintheroses
Posts:89
| | 10/06/2007 1:46 PM |
Alert | Dear Mr Golf,
It doesn't add up to you because you need a math tutor......
" It would be stupid for those who prepare the materials for the school board to continually NOT give White key documents that the other board members get."
It indeed would be stupid..let me explain...NO BOARD MEMBER IS GETTING THE INFORMATION NEEDED>>>the same skimpy information is given to all board members. White is the only one who says the information given does not address the issue or is not enough for an informed decision; be it budgetary, be it only 2 out of 4 resume's, it is not sufficient. Sooooooo for example, he requests 4 months of past due budgets, missing resume's on obviously questionable unqualified new hires and then he waits...and waits...and asks....and has to beg to get the information he requested and tables and tables again until he, along with the quiet sheeplike members, he receives the proper documentation to make a informed decision.
Sufficient information is not supplied to begin with and there is only one board member who asks and does not receive; that's not stupidity that's incompetence and sloppy financial management from the top down. | | | |
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| | DesertNewbie
Posts:531
| | 10/06/2007 4:55 PM |
Alert | Posted By golf_rules2 on 10/06/2007 9:15 AM
... whine that he didn't get all his materials? Do you really believe that is possible?
In a word...yes. | | | |
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|  | golf_rules2
Posts:0
| | 10/06/2007 8:57 PM |
Alert | White's statements on several occasions has been that HE did not get the same materials that the other board members received. He has used that line several times.
I'm bored with his whining and antics. He is doing more desctruction than good. I'm amazed you can't see that.
Look, I'm not saying the school system and adminstration has it all down perfect. I do believe there is a lot that can be improved. No doubt! But, these problems have existed for as long as I have been here, 7 years. Problems are not going to get solved the way White is handling them. It's just not the right way to go about it. It makes him look more like a fool than a wise man. Same for the blogger. The only people reading that blog are those that need some drama in their life. Real problems get handled face to face, which most people can't handle. | | | |
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| | Pepperdog
Posts:216
| | 10/07/2007 11:34 PM |
Alert | That fact that he continues to complain and the district has not called for an audit is the district's problem. If they wanted to end his complaining they could do just that. It is very reasonable to assume that he is not getting the necessary info from the district. The fact that the district has not provided the proper financials is proof enough. Couple that with what went on outside a board meeting and that the recall committee was blazely collecting signatures on school grounds during parent night is more proof. Oh yeah and the attempt to terminate Ms Sharpe and others too. The problems with getting new teachers paid is a fine example of the kind of paperwork problems that could be similar. I could go on.
Yeah it is very easy to belive Mr White on that subject. The district SHOULD audit the materials and have it sent through a third party for verification before it goes to WHite. The district could do it, if they cared. Personally I think they like to antagonize Mr White.
Mr WHite is not the perfect person or even a fantastic boardmember. Mr WHite is though, the only board member who attempts to hold the district accountable. THAT is why he gets support, any one else could do it and every board member should do it, but he is the only one. Think about it.... | |
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| | nancyj1922
Posts:145
| | 10/08/2007 4:36 PM |
Alert | I don't know if Mike resigned or not. I do know that if he did he had a darn good reason for doing it and I would be amazingly surprised if it had anything to do with anyone else! Mike is extremely dedicated to improving this district and is a great person to have in the job!
As for all the other crud at the school; when will EVERYONE just start to support this school; work with the people that are here in order to improve the place and stop trying to drive everyone nuts that works there, it would be a much better place. One day you are all going to wake up and find no one left at the school. | |
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| | Digger
Posts:63
| | 10/08/2007 5:11 PM |
Alert | I don't get on here much but if the district personel are doing a lousy job like some say they are, then why would they want to support the district. How will that solve anything?
Just a question! | | | |
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| | golf_rules2
Posts:0
| | 10/08/2007 5:29 PM |
Alert | <div class='NTForums_Quote'>Posted By nancyj1922 on 10/08/2007 4:36 PM
As for all the other crud at the school; when will EVERYONE just start to support this school; work with the people that are here in order to improve the place and stop trying to drive everyone nuts that works there, it would be a much better place. One day you are all going to wake up and find no one left at the school.</div>
Nancy, that is such a true statement. The more this crud goes on, the more charter schools will fill up, the more Akimal (sp) in Ahwatukee will fill up, and that means the less money for Maricopa public schools.
That's the point everyone keeps missing! More damage is being done than good by all this crud. Why can you people not see that?
I can answer my own question...
Because you need the drama and negative crud to survive.... that's pretty selfish.... and you want everyone to believe you are doing this for the children. RIGHT! (said sarcatically) | | | |
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| | Digger
Posts:63
| | 10/08/2007 6:02 PM |
Alert | I am not sure why no one will answer my question. If the people in the district aren't doing a good job what sense does it make to support them?
Seems the basic school of thought is if you don't support a failing district then you want the district to fail and if you support a failing district already then you want the district to succeed?
Doesn't seem logical. | | | |
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| | Pepperdog
Posts:216
| | 10/08/2007 9:34 PM |
Alert | <div class='NTForums_Quote'>Posted By nancyj1922 on 10/08/2007 4:36 PM
I don't know if Mike resigned or not. I do know that if he did he had a darn good reason for doing it and I would be amazingly surprised if it had anything to do with anyone else! Mike is extremely dedicated to improving this district and is a great person to have in the job!
As for all the other crud at the school; when will EVERYONE just start to support this school; work with the people that are here in order to improve the place and stop trying to drive everyone nuts that works there, it would be a much better place. One day you are all going to wake up and find no one left at the school.</div>
I got a note from him, he did and for many reasons.
Nancy sometimes I wonder if you even read my posts before you reply. This topic starts out with my support.....Geez...Get off your TW hatred....you are better than that, or at least you used to be.
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| | A/VQueen
Posts:60
| | 10/09/2007 8:14 AM |
Alert | | I think that if he can't get help and his job suffers then he should resign. I can't even get him to call me back. I have even gone to the point of sending letters stating that and emails in which a read receipt was attached, and still no call back or answer. When my 4 year old got sent home on a Wednesday and was at home alone for 5 hours, when he was supposed to be in the after school program. I think I have the right to get some answers as to how this happened, and what will happen now to insure it won't ever happen again. | | | |
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| | nancyj1922
Posts:145
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| 10/09/2007 9:44 PM |
Alert | Pepperdog
First, yes I read all that you wrote. My comments, if you read them, were not addressed to you. They were addressed to this whole community that has been in a feeding frenzy about our schools for awhile now.
Tension has to be awful at the schools, board meetings are becoming a circus, teachers and admin have little support, and the ones losing out are the kids. It was addressed to all those rabid people that so quickly 'VENT' about all the wrong at the school and those who talk about people there without knowing all the facts or the whole story. It was a short time ago that Mike was the target of a conversation about it being his fault ( IT WAS NOT by the way....that was a lack of what was done by the people who previously had the job)
Mike is awesome and I know for a fact that he and his wife have put in more hours at that school (let's not forget kids and Grandma) than probably anyone in this town! I can't ever think of a time when the Murietts were not there to help....that includes all the teachers who were fortunate enough to have their sons in class, that includes all the work they did....countless hours, working on the committees to come up with designs for the schools. I still remember them taking home 600 handbooks and assembling them the weekend before school when it needed to be done at the last minute...and they did this year after year. I know that they were the first to arrive at any school function and one of the very last to leave. They helped at booths, are active in PTO, and I don't know of ANYONE that can beat their record of attendance at School Board meetings and that includes board members!!!! I know for a fact that when Santa Rosa was being built, the Murietts just about lived there while they assembled desks, sorted books, helped teachers unpack, etc. Just so you all know, they didn't even have kids at that school!
IF Mike did resign, he had good reasons for it and it would NEVER be because of hard work, long hours, or a little pressure.
However, I will stick to what I said before about the crud in Maricopa. Maricopa Schools are going to continue to lose wonderful, caring, hard working people because they just get sick of all the static created by this community. Why work in a place where there is so much negativity when there are SO many schools looking for teachers.
This is a wonderful community. It is filled with people, who for the most part are here because they want to make Maricopa home...in doing so, they invest of themself to not TEAR it apart, but instead WORK to make it strong and better.
I would really LOVE to see that happen inside our schools.
Also, glad you at least have a clue who I am, I don't know who you are. No offense meant to your comment. | |
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| | DesertNewbie
Posts:531
| | 10/10/2007 7:03 AM |
Alert | Posted By nancyj1922 on 10/09/2007 9:44 PM
However, I will stick to what I said before about the crud in Maricopa. Maricopa Schools are going to continue to lose wonderful, caring, hard working people because they just get sick of all the static created by this community. Why work in a place where there is so much negativity when there are SO many schools looking for teachers.
With all due respect, Nancy, the community isn't what is creating the static. District leadership and an inept BOEcreate the static. Those of us who discuss it, in an attempt to bring enough public awareness for something to be done about it, are not the problem. We're trying to be the solution.
Not enough people attend board meetings for a speech at Call To The Public to be overwhelmingly successful...but they read here. Not enough people would read a flier taken door-to-door with all of the other "BUY MY PRODUCT" stuff that circulates...but they read here. The local newspapers, and even this "news site", refuse to report anything without slant, and what they do choose to print is very lean, to say the least.
This forum is a tool - not the end all, be all - but a tool to reach and inform. It doesn't solve any problems, but it is a stepping stone, which requires follow-through. It is as available to the district to use to inform (or defend themselves) as it is to us. Flores could easily use this tool to disseminate important information to the people of this district, and dare I say, dispel rumors, but he chooses no form of communication at all. Why is that? My personal belief is that he doesn't want public opinion. Most dictators don't.
As for Muriet, most people have stated that they believe he has done his level-best. Nobody has blamed him for the licensing issue. It has always been said this problem was present before Muriet took the job, and that it was Flores, who dropped the ball when the old ASP Director brought it to his attention, repeatedly.
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| | golf_rules2
Posts:0
| | 10/10/2007 10:47 AM |
Alert | Nancy, they (most of this forum) will never get it! I'm not sure why you bother to tell them how they are hurting the school more than helping, cause they will never get it!
I appreciate your words, I can see your points, but they will never get it!
People in authority, in any position here in Maricopa, will never use this forum to discuss important issues. It would not be a smart thing for them to do. If the behavior of those on this forum would change to be more constructive, they might, but until that happens, they will not participate. I wouldn't blame them.
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| | DesertDweller
Posts:2548
| | 10/10/2007 1:05 PM |
Alert | Wow. I am glad that I don't have kids in school anymore. This whole thing reminds me of a little league game where the kids just want to play ball and the parents are trying to kill each other in the stands. The administration spends more time trying to defend itself or manipuilate public interest than it does overseeing the education of the children in the district. The Board of education spends more time trying to oust members it doesn't like than it does overseeing the administration and directing the educational process.
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Stupid should hurt!
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| | nancyj1922
Posts:145
| | 10/10/2007 4:24 PM |
Alert | | Golf_rules I've always been a firm believer that if you can change the mind of even one person it may have been worth while. :o) An erternal believer in positive thought! | |
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| | golf_rules2
Posts:0
| | 10/10/2007 4:59 PM |
Alert | Nancy, then I fully support your mission! | | | |
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