Ebay1
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 | | 08/14/2008 3:53 PM |
Alert | Posted By RichTig on 08/14/2008 3:51 PM Posted By Ebay1 on 08/14/2008 3:49 PM Posted By thick on 08/14/2008 3:38 PM Just yesterday you said "A safe option has been provided by the school until another is possible." What made you change your mind?
I still maintain it IS a safe option until another is available. The ONLY excuse I've read so far that isn't just a bunch of parents complaining about being inconvenienced is that the bus system has been horribly unreliable. THAT is a legitimate reason for speeding up the process, but again, I personally feel that a temporary light is going above and beyond what is necessary and would suffice.
Thanks for the response. The buses have been unreliable and hopefully the problem will be fixed soon. The temporary light is costly and probably could have been rented or leased for less $$. I thought a stop sign would work while the city could expedite the permanent traffic control.
The problem with the busses will be fixed soon, but you people are to impatient for that. You want a LIGHT NOW. You are getting one, at a cost of 180k. Guess that new library or parks can wait.
Parents should be impatient if their children were missing, on the wrong bus or dropped off at a wrong bus stop! | | | |
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RichTig
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 | | 08/14/2008 3:55 PM |
Alert | Posted By Ebay1 on 08/14/2008 3:53 PM Posted By RichTig on 08/14/2008 3:51 PM Posted By Ebay1 on 08/14/2008 3:49 PM Posted By thick on 08/14/2008 3:38 PM Just yesterday you said "A safe option has been provided by the school until another is possible." What made you change your mind?
I still maintain it IS a safe option until another is available. The ONLY excuse I've read so far that isn't just a bunch of parents complaining about being inconvenienced is that the bus system has been horribly unreliable. THAT is a legitimate reason for speeding up the process, but again, I personally feel that a temporary light is going above and beyond what is necessary and would suffice.
Thanks for the response. The buses have been unreliable and hopefully the problem will be fixed soon. The temporary light is costly and probably could have been rented or leased for less $$. I thought a stop sign would work while the city could expedite the permanent traffic control.
The problem with the busses will be fixed soon, but you people are to impatient for that. You want a LIGHT NOW. You are getting one, at a cost of 180k. Guess that new library or parks can wait.
Parents should be impatient if their children were missing, on the wrong bus or dropped off at a wrong bus stop!
OMG, how many kids are missing? | | | |
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Ebay1
Posts:168

 | | 08/14/2008 3:56 PM |
Alert | Posted By RichTig on 08/14/2008 3:55 PM Posted By Ebay1 on 08/14/2008 3:53 PM Posted By RichTig on 08/14/2008 3:51 PM Posted By Ebay1 on 08/14/2008 3:49 PM Posted By thick on 08/14/2008 3:38 PM Just yesterday you said "A safe option has been provided by the school until another is possible." What made you change your mind?
I still maintain it IS a safe option until another is available. The ONLY excuse I've read so far that isn't just a bunch of parents complaining about being inconvenienced is that the bus system has been horribly unreliable. THAT is a legitimate reason for speeding up the process, but again, I personally feel that a temporary light is going above and beyond what is necessary and would suffice.
Thanks for the response. The buses have been unreliable and hopefully the problem will be fixed soon. The temporary light is costly and probably could have been rented or leased for less $$. I thought a stop sign would work while the city could expedite the permanent traffic control.
The problem with the busses will be fixed soon, but you people are to impatient for that. You want a LIGHT NOW. You are getting one, at a cost of 180k. Guess that new library or parks can wait.
Parents should be impatient if their children were missing, on the wrong bus or dropped off at a wrong bus stop!
OMG, how many kids are missing?
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RichTig
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 | | 08/14/2008 3:58 PM |
Alert | Posted By Ebay1 on 08/14/2008 3:56 PM Posted By RichTig on 08/14/2008 3:55 PM Posted By Ebay1 on 08/14/2008 3:53 PM Posted By RichTig on 08/14/2008 3:51 PM Posted By Ebay1 on 08/14/2008 3:49 PM Posted By thick on 08/14/2008 3:38 PM Just yesterday you said "A safe option has been provided by the school until another is possible." What made you change your mind?
I still maintain it IS a safe option until another is available. The ONLY excuse I've read so far that isn't just a bunch of parents complaining about being inconvenienced is that the bus system has been horribly unreliable. THAT is a legitimate reason for speeding up the process, but again, I personally feel that a temporary light is going above and beyond what is necessary and would suffice.
Thanks for the response. The buses have been unreliable and hopefully the problem will be fixed soon. The temporary light is costly and probably could have been rented or leased for less $$. I thought a stop sign would work while the city could expedite the permanent traffic control.
The problem with the busses will be fixed soon, but you people are to impatient for that. You want a LIGHT NOW. You are getting one, at a cost of 180k. Guess that new library or parks can wait.
Parents should be impatient if their children were missing, on the wrong bus or dropped off at a wrong bus stop!
OMG, how many kids are missing?
It only takes one..... That many, huh? | | | |
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Ebay1
Posts:168

 | | 08/14/2008 4:06 PM |
Alert | Posted By RichTig on 08/14/2008 3:58 PM Posted By Ebay1 on 08/14/2008 3:56 PM Posted By RichTig on 08/14/2008 3:55 PM Posted By Ebay1 on 08/14/2008 3:53 PM Posted By RichTig on 08/14/2008 3:51 PM Posted By Ebay1 on 08/14/2008 3:49 PM Posted By thick on 08/14/2008 3:38 PM Just yesterday you said "A safe option has been provided by the school until another is possible." What made you change your mind?
I still maintain it IS a safe option until another is available. The ONLY excuse I've read so far that isn't just a bunch of parents complaining about being inconvenienced is that the bus system has been horribly unreliable. THAT is a legitimate reason for speeding up the process, but again, I personally feel that a temporary light is going above and beyond what is necessary and would suffice.
Thanks for the response. The buses have been unreliable and hopefully the problem will be fixed soon. The temporary light is costly and probably could have been rented or leased for less $$. I thought a stop sign would work while the city could expedite the permanent traffic control.
The problem with the busses will be fixed soon, but you people are to impatient for that. You want a LIGHT NOW. You are getting one, at a cost of 180k. Guess that new library or parks can wait.
Parents should be impatient if their children were missing, on the wrong bus or dropped off at a wrong bus stop!
OMG, how many kids are missing?
It only takes one..... That many, huh? I'm sure parents would agree that it is very freightening to have a child go missing even for a few minutes. RichTig You never did answer my question yesterday when I asked if you had any school age children or maybe you are older with grown kids?? I'm sure we all know the answer.... | | | |
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RichTig
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 | | 08/14/2008 4:07 PM |
Alert | Posted By Ebay1 on 08/14/2008 4:06 PM Posted By RichTig on 08/14/2008 3:58 PM Posted By Ebay1 on 08/14/2008 3:56 PM Posted By RichTig on 08/14/2008 3:55 PM Posted By Ebay1 on 08/14/2008 3:53 PM Posted By RichTig on 08/14/2008 3:51 PM Posted By Ebay1 on 08/14/2008 3:49 PM Posted By thick on 08/14/2008 3:38 PM Just yesterday you said "A safe option has been provided by the school until another is possible." What made you change your mind?
I still maintain it IS a safe option until another is available. The ONLY excuse I've read so far that isn't just a bunch of parents complaining about being inconvenienced is that the bus system has been horribly unreliable. THAT is a legitimate reason for speeding up the process, but again, I personally feel that a temporary light is going above and beyond what is necessary and would suffice.
Thanks for the response. The buses have been unreliable and hopefully the problem will be fixed soon. The temporary light is costly and probably could have been rented or leased for less $$. I thought a stop sign would work while the city could expedite the permanent traffic control.
The problem with the busses will be fixed soon, but you people are to impatient for that. You want a LIGHT NOW. You are getting one, at a cost of 180k. Guess that new library or parks can wait.
Parents should be impatient if their children were missing, on the wrong bus or dropped off at a wrong bus stop!
OMG, how many kids are missing?
It only takes one..... That many, huh? I'm sure parents would agree that it is very freightening to have a child go missing even for a few minutes. RichTig You never did answer my question yesterday when I asked if you had any school age children or maybe you are older with grown kids?? I'm sure we all know the answer.... I am sure you are too busy gloating over making the city cave to your unreasonable demands. You must feel proud that city is wasting 180k in your honor. | | | |
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Ebay1
Posts:168

 | | 08/14/2008 4:10 PM |
Alert | Posted By RichTig on 08/14/2008 4:07 PM Posted By Ebay1 on 08/14/2008 4:06 PM Posted By RichTig on 08/14/2008 3:58 PM Posted By Ebay1 on 08/14/2008 3:56 PM Posted By RichTig on 08/14/2008 3:55 PM Posted By Ebay1 on 08/14/2008 3:53 PM Posted By RichTig on 08/14/2008 3:51 PM Posted By Ebay1 on 08/14/2008 3:49 PM Posted By thick on 08/14/2008 3:38 PM Just yesterday you said "A safe option has been provided by the school until another is possible." What made you change your mind?
I still maintain it IS a safe option until another is available. The ONLY excuse I've read so far that isn't just a bunch of parents complaining about being inconvenienced is that the bus system has been horribly unreliable. THAT is a legitimate reason for speeding up the process, but again, I personally feel that a temporary light is going above and beyond what is necessary and would suffice.
Thanks for the response. The buses have been unreliable and hopefully the problem will be fixed soon. The temporary light is costly and probably could have been rented or leased for less $$. I thought a stop sign would work while the city could expedite the permanent traffic control.
The problem with the busses will be fixed soon, but you people are to impatient for that. You want a LIGHT NOW. You are getting one, at a cost of 180k. Guess that new library or parks can wait.
Parents should be impatient if their children were missing, on the wrong bus or dropped off at a wrong bus stop!
OMG, how many kids are missing?
It only takes one..... That many, huh? I'm sure parents would agree that it is very freightening to have a child go missing even for a few minutes. RichTig You never did answer my question yesterday when I asked if you had any school age children or maybe you are older with grown kids?? I'm sure we all know the answer.... I am sure you are too busy gloating over making the city cave to your unreasonable demands. You must feel proud that city is wasting 180k in your honor.
Not true at all. Read my past posts about the temp traffic control and the money spent. Back to my previous question. | | | |
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RichTig
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 | | 08/14/2008 4:11 PM |
Alert | My age is of no consequence, as you are not my type. I am not into shrills. | | | |
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Ebay1
Posts:168

 | | 08/14/2008 4:13 PM |
Alert | Posted By RichTig on 08/14/2008 4:11 PM My age is of no consequence, as you are not my type. I am not into shrills.
Ok then. The smart A$$ remark answered the question. Before you dole out your opinions on what the city or school district should do, maybe you should try to put yourself in "the parents shoes"...the one's with the school age children.
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RichTig
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 | | 08/14/2008 4:15 PM |
Alert | My kids would ride the bus. Something that is beneath your kids, obviously. | | | |
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thick
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 | | 08/14/2008 4:17 PM |
Alert | | What I find curious is that (here anyway) the general consensus has been that a temporary solution could have been achieved MUCH more cost effectively. If that's the case, why the temp light??? Who decided that and why? | | | |
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Ebay1
Posts:168

 | | 08/14/2008 4:24 PM |
Alert | Posted By thick on 08/14/2008 4:17 PM
What I find curious is that (here anyway) the general consensus has been that a temporary solution could have been achieved MUCH more cost effectively. If that's the case, why the temp light??? Who decided that and why?
It seems like there was no planning done before the school was completed and classes started. If there was a plan and it was in place before classes started it would have saved the city some money.
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Ebay1
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 | | 08/14/2008 4:25 PM |
Alert | | I question why the city could not rent the temp lights? | | | |
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thick
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| 08/14/2008 4:28 PM |
Alert | It seems like there was no planning done before the school was completed and classes started. If there was a plan and it was in place before classes started it would have saved the city some money.
I get that. Coulda, woulda shoulda. For whatever reason, it didn't happen, but WHY the temp light, when there could easily have been any number of cheaper alternatives (which it appears the City will be doing anyway until the temp light gets here)? Seems like expensive overkill to me. | | | |
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RichTig
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 | | 08/14/2008 5:54 PM |
Alert | Posted By Ebay1 on 08/14/2008 4:24 PM Posted By thick on 08/14/2008 4:17 PM
What I find curious is that (here anyway) the general consensus has been that a temporary solution could have been achieved MUCH more cost effectively. If that's the case, why the temp light??? Who decided that and why?
It seems like there was no planning done before the school was completed and classes started. If there was a plan and it was in place before classes started it would have saved the city some money.
They did plan. They are called busses, big yellow machines with MUSD on the side. | | | |
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RichTig
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 | | 08/14/2008 5:54 PM |
Alert | Posted By Ebay1 on 08/14/2008 4:24 PM Posted By thick on 08/14/2008 4:17 PM
What I find curious is that (here anyway) the general consensus has been that a temporary solution could have been achieved MUCH more cost effectively. If that's the case, why the temp light??? Who decided that and why?
It seems like there was no planning done before the school was completed and classes started. If there was a plan and it was in place before classes started it would have saved the city some money.
They did plan. They are called busses, big yellow machines with MUSD on the side. | | | |
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RichTig
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 | | 08/14/2008 5:56 PM |
Alert | Posted By thick on 08/14/2008 4:28 PM
It seems like there was no planning done before the school was completed and classes started. If there was a plan and it was in place before classes started it would have saved the city some money.
I get that. Coulda, woulda shoulda. For whatever reason, it didn't happen, but WHY the temp light, when there could easily have been any number of cheaper alternatives (which it appears the City will be doing anyway until the temp light gets here)? Seems like expensive overkill to me. It doesn't matter how much money it costs. They were IN IT TO WIN IT! And cost be damned! As long as their kids don't ride a bus, they are cool with spending how ever many milllions it takes. | | | |
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andyphoenixa
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 | | 08/15/2008 9:00 AM |
Alert | You know I don't think anybody wants to pay more for something here. All we wanted from what it sounded like was a solution. If it came as a covered wagon that was reliable I think nobody would have cared. I think most of us are finding that we are living in a town that still has some growing pains. In the last 5 years the town has exploded and I personally don't think they were ready for it to do that. I have lived in small town all my life before i moved to Phoenix. Small towns dont change for most of their existance. They have the same people doing the same thing for 40 years. In this case the investors came and everything changed over night. It really was like a bulldozer and all I can say is if we are just here to complain and not be part of a solution then we need to just shut up and take what we get. I have talked to Butterfield to try to see how I can help. I was very upset the first few days but wanted to be part of a solution or know there was one on the way. For all of you parents that sit around and complain and do nothing about it you are worse of a problem than the problem. For those parents that crossed the street when their wasnt a solution in place and put their kids at more risk you guys are by far the most ignorant. Ok enough of my rant. | | Andrew Peters | |
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RichTig
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 | | 08/15/2008 9:03 AM |
Alert | Posted By andyphoenixa on 08/15/2008 9:00 AM For those parents that crossed the street when their wasnt a solution in place and put their kids at more risk you guys are by far the most ignorant. You hit the nail squarely on the head! | | | |
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