How about you research something for once in your life and let us know RichTig? This question has been asked for years and I'm sure there must be some data that you can dig up. Maybe do some usefull posting instead of your typical useless posting today?

Whats the matter, alanf, your Dulcolax hasn't kicked in yet this morning?

Here is why.  FYI.

In December 1996, President Bill Clinton asked Americans to remember to wear their seat belts as the first line of defense against injury and death. In April 1997, U.S. Transportation Secretary Rodney Slater proposed a Presidential Initiative to Increase Seat Belt Use. Passenger cars have been required to have seat belts since 1968. Furthermore, the cost of fines for failing to wear a seat belt increases every year. It’s obvious that United States government officials feel passionately about seat belt usage. So, why aren’t school buses required to have them?

No federal law that exists mandating seat belts be installed in regular school buses. State and local authorities are allowed to install them if they wish, but with an estimated cost of around $1500 per bus to install seat belts, why would they? The law says it’s okay not to have them, so why fix what’s not broke?

Parents and other citizens are concerned. The National Parent Teacher Association has asked that seat belts be installed in every new school bus. Parents are not unreasonably worried. Every year over 41,000 lives are lost in automobile accidents. It is not irrational to assume that children would be better protected if buckled up on their way to school and home.

Seat belt advocates list several major reasons for requiring seat belts in school buses:

• Reduce the number of injuries and fatalities in collisions
• Reduce the number of non-collision injuries children sustain from sticking their arms and heads out of windows and falling out of their seats
• Improve behavior of children on buses by keeping children seated
• Reinforce the message to “Buckle Up”

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) requires all new school buses to meet safety requirements above those of passenger cars. These include improved emergency exits, seating, fuel systems, and joint stability. The administration is responsible for establishing federal safety standards for all motor vehicles, and works with states on school bus safety programs. Nevertheless, the NHTSA does not currently require seat belts to be installed in school buses.

The National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) has concluded that seat belts would provide little, if any, added protection for children involved a school bus accident. In 1987, the NTSB concluded in a study that most fatal injuries caused by school bus collisions were due to seating positions in direct line of impact, and that seat belts would not have prevented most of these tragedies.

Because there is no compelling evidence that seat belts would provide added safety for school bus occupants, and because of the outstanding safety record of school buses, the NHTSA has concluded that there is insufficient evidence for requiring safety belts to be installed. Several additional factors determine the stance against mandating seat belts on school buses.

Compartmentalization: The Egg Crate Effect

The NHTSA relies on a concept called “compartmentalization” to ensure the safety of school bus riders. Closely spaced, high-backed seats with impact absorbing materials on the fronts and backs prevent children from being thrown far and hard in the event of a collision. Compartmentalization gives an egg crate-like protection by providing confined spaces that are constructed to cushion the blow in an accident.

Critics agree that compartmentalization does nothing for side-impact crashes, and seat belt advocates are putting the pressure on authorities to examine their current policies.

Size and Structure of School Buses

Federal regulations require installation of restraints in vehicles based on their size and weight. Smaller school buses, those weighing less than 10,000 pounds, are required to have seat belt restraints. The NHTSA has ruled that small buses fall into the same category as passenger cars and trucks that are mandated to be equipped with safety belts. Regular school buses are heavier and provide better crash impact than passenger vehicles, thus eliminating the requirement of seat belt protection.

Lap Belts vs. Shoulder Harnesses

Studies show that lap belts have the potential to cause abdominal and head injury in children who are slammed forward in a crash. Three-point shoulder harnesses would be ideal for restraining children, but are impractical as there is currently no realistic way to install them on school buses. Window seats could be implemented with shoulder harnesses, but aisle seats provide no place to anchor the straps.

Cost Effectiveness

An average of 10 children are killed per year in school bus accidents. Compare this to the over 23 million children who are transferred to and from school and school-related activities, and you have a very small percentage of school bus fatalities. In 1989, the National Academy of Science concluded that the overall benefits of installing seat belts, with an estimated cost of about $470 million to install them in the approximately 384,000 school buses in America, would be insufficient for mandating belt restraints. The NAS also stated that funds of this magnitude would be better spent on safety programs that would be beneficial in preventing injuries and fatalities. For example, consider that almost three times as many children are killed entering and exiting school buses, at bus stops, and walking to school.

Practicalities

Certain questions arise when visualizing the possibility of seat belts in school buses: How much time will be consumed while bus drivers make sure all children are buckled before moving? Will unruly children use the seat belts as weapons? If a bus were to be involved in a wreck, who would be responsible for making sure all passengers were unbuckled? What if the driver were hurt and unable to assist children in vacating the bus? Would an additional employee be needed, and what would the cost factor be for hiring another employee for each bus?

All of these questions need to be addressed in determining whether installation of seat belts on school buses is practical.

I drive the 347 daily to get to work and back.  As it is right now my kids go to a daycare/preschool in Ahwatukee already and they are in the car with me.   So taking them to a Kyrene school will not make a difference for us in terms of getting them to school and back. 

The argument about why we shouldn't take our kids to a much, much better school district  because transporting your kids on the 347 can cause them to be exposed to an accident is funny.

Here is why.....WHAT? You copied and pasted, but did not give any input. Compartmentalized, egg crate effect, 2 or 3 across, side impact, monitoring, buckling them in, using the belt as a weapon, etc..... but do you think it's practical and needed. Is it okay with you to increase taxes to put install them, and hire seat belt monitors to ride the bus to ensure they are properly used?

What do you actually think after researching and reading the info? Or did you?

Maybe visit this site also? www.ncsbs.org/

Dude, I'm gonna have to agree with you on this one. I grew up in a town of 5,000 people. We had one elementary, one middle school, one junior high, and one high school for our 3A district. It didn't have a cutting-edge curriculum but somehow I managed to turn out fairly intelligent and successful in my occupation.  It's all about the kid. If a school isn't "challenging" a child enough, THEN THE PARENTS NEED TO!! Parents could easily find extra course work online to present to their children if they're bored in school. Don't be lazy.

Corona hasn't had any problems at all... just a moldy air conditioner system that the district has been rufusing to fix... maybe they've changed their minds by now...

I agree. I was thinking the same thing.

My children are older now and they are at a school event all the time. I can't imagine driving 30 miles (or however far it is) to each event. I have had my kids in private and public school. I think they actually did "better" (no change in grades) in public school where they made friends with neighborhood kids. 

Just my opinion. I think it's very hard now, there are too many options. There is a lot of pressure on parents not to make a "bad choice".

I hate to agree with *riki*. And just think, no accidents on the highway of death going to Kyrene, but TWO for MUSD in just the last school year. Yeah, that reasoning is kind of week.

Here is a useful link...it even has a comments section.  It has some interesting information.

http://www.greatschools.net/