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GilaGuy
Posts:789
 | | 10/27/2007 2:59 PM |
 Alert | <div class='NTForums_Quote'>Posted By Lurker on 10/26/2007 4:29 PM
I know that I am going to loose between 10K and 20K after purchasing this house, because after doing a little market research I played the conservative view. Looking at the house market and seeing the steady decline in constructions starts, foreclosures due to sub prime/interesting only loans, I knew that it was not going to be pretty. However, since this was my first home I weighed it against paying a $1000 for rent or #1300 for a mortgage, I choose the mortgage.
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You've made a very thoughtful post, thank you for that. I agree almost entirely with what you've said. One thing I might add is that I wouldn't worry one bit about the possibility of losing $10-20,000 in the value of your home during this downturn...because in essence, it is all meaningless. Paper value is just that, paper value. It doesn't really do you a bit of good (other than to your pride, I suppose) to have a house zoom up or zoom down in value in the short-term. The only place it matters in in a long-term sense, and home values rarely continue a steep decline in any long-term fashion.
You made wise choices the way they should have been made...with careful planning and clearly rational thought. That's something you should be proud of. <img src='http://www.85239.com/desktopmodules/ntforums/images/emoticons/smile.gif' height='20' width='20' border='0' title='Smile' align='absmiddle'> | | | |
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| | Lano
Posts:274
| | 10/30/2007 8:28 PM |
Alert | | Sorry....no matter how hard I try to embrace this place, it's just not going to work. Call me naive, or whatever you want. I'll bet that 60-70% of the people that moved down here, would'nt if given a do-over. I did'nt anticipate not being able to put my kids in school here. So I'm racking up the miles. They are so far behind on so many levels. I thought worse case, we'd have lots of stuff down here within 5 years. I did'nt think there'd be a City Council who would make life miserable for any business wanting to open up shop in the Copa. Did anyone see the crap they put that Detour business owner through? My bad....I was wrong. I underestimated the amount of truck traffic. The 347. I though the household income levels would be higher. I thought that things would be much more sophisicated......they're not. So put me in the "your stupid, you should've done your research catagory." I'll admit it, I was. | | | |
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| | GilaGuy
Posts:789
| | 10/31/2007 12:59 AM |
Alert | <div class='NTForums_Quote'>Posted By Lano on 10/30/2007 8:28 PM
Sorry....no matter how hard I try to embrace this place, it's just not going to work.
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I underestimated the amount of truck traffic. The 347. I though the household income levels would be higher. I thought that things would be much more sophisicated......they're not. So put me in the "your stupid, you should've done your research catagory." I'll admit it, I was.</div>
No need to beat yourself up about it...it happens. Askin for sophistication in a brand new city was probably the only thing I can see any fault in, beyond that everything could have gone either way. Why worry?
The truck traffic today is absolutely nothing compared to what it was three years ago during the height of the boom. Ask any graybeard about that and I'll bet they will agree. It's a pain in the neck, sure, but it's not as bad as it has been...and as things get more built up in the area, the need for four hundred dirt-haulers each direction per day will decrease.
The City Council will go, growth in the Valley will resume and force folks back to the outskirts, and things will rebound. I really don't think there's anything worth panicking over, even during times like these when the economy isn't where anybody here would like it. ;-) | | | |
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| | Denna
Posts:0
| | 11/21/2007 4:03 PM |
Alert | Yes I don't understand why all these people defend the cow smell and other negative points of this town.
How do you get used to festering cow stench? How do you get used to the millions of flies they bring with them? Whenever my honey and I drive by anything that smells like poop, we say, "hey I smell Maricopa"!
Look people, here are some facts:
The toxins produced by cows are very dangerous. Not only are they bad for the ozone and bad for our childrens lungs, but children can harvest the cow dung and get high off of it.
http://science.howstuffworks.com/methane-cow.htm
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2006/10/22/1161455608771.html?from=top5
The water here in Maricopa can be tested at 3.0 on any pool Chlorine test kit. At least at my house it can. Anything above 1.5 was proven to cause miscarriages and other medical problems. 3.0 is extremely high by anyone's standards. My guess is they are trying to get rid of cow pollutants!
http://www.ontapsystems.co.uk/chlorine.htm
http://www.worldimage.com/blog/archives/000056_dangers_of_chlorine_in_drinking_and_shower_water.html
We should not allow ranchers to live near us. Citizens need to get together and protest this. | | | |
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| | Denna
Posts:0
| | 11/21/2007 4:26 PM |
Alert | <div class='NTForums_Quote'>Posted By JasonY on 09/26/2007 10:48 AM
I agree 100%. The bookstore is the best, and who knows what other evil deeds the city council could have done if it wasn't for people complaining on this website. Power to the people.
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It sounds like Cliff and Jason Y are commenting on the leadership of the town as well. Is it true the city counsel were found doing unethical things? Shocking... or not. | | | |
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| | twostep23
Posts:1684
| | 11/21/2007 9:20 PM |
Alert | In case no one has mentioned it to you 347 leads out of town. If all that you say is totally wrong with Maricopa you should be the smart one and cut your loses or break even and get out.
I haven't seen a thread yet that you haven't complained about something on. I hear that there is low prices in Queen Creek.
Plese.....Enough is enough. <img src='http://www.85239.com/desktopmodules/ntforums/images/emoticons/sad.gif' height='20' width='20' border='0' title='Sad' align='absmiddle'> | |
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|  | Lano
Posts:274
| | 11/22/2007 5:54 AM |
Alert | <div class='NTForums_Quote'>Posted By twostep23 on 11/21/2007 9:20 PM
In case no one has mentioned it to you 347 leads out of town. If all that you say is totally wrong with Maricopa you should be the smart one and cut your loses or break even and get out.
I haven't seen a thread yet that you haven't complained about something on. I hear that there is low prices in Queen Creek.
Plese.....Enough is enough. <img src='http://www.85239.com/desktopmodules/ntforums/images/emoticons/sad.gif' height='20' width='20' border='0' title='Sad' align='absmiddle'></div>
So anyone who points out things that are wrong with this town have to leave?? | | | |
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| | jeeptj02
Posts:117
| | 11/22/2007 7:51 AM |
Alert | | Im with you on that one lano. You can’t say anything bad about this place with out everyone coming unglued. I always like it when there rebuttal is well you brought here because of the cheap homes what did you expect! Well what the hell did you buy here for then as well? And no I brought here because I work in casa grande and there was no way in H-E-double hockey sticks I was going to live there. Now I wish I would have just brought in the tukee or chandler and dealt with the drive it wasn’t that I couldn’t afford it. This town might be decent in 10 years but im not willing to stick around and find out id rather cut my losses now and take a hit and be happy where I live. | | | |
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| | Denna
Posts:0
| | 11/22/2007 10:15 AM |
Alert | That seems to be a lot of people's responses "get out of town" if we don't like what is becoming of our city. For some reason people seem to think that the people without any power need to tell the people with power what the problems are on a weekly basis - as if it isn't obvious. See, public officials are hired to know what the problems are. In fact, they should be reading these forums and seeing how many people feel about this town. Should we have to goto town meetings to expect improvements? Furthermore, if I was a government official, I would ask to do a monthly editorial/blog on 85239.com and tell the community what was being done. CEO's of major corporations do this. Why is it too much to expect for a City Manager or Mayor to do that?
Someone said to me today, "wow, for a brand new city, they sure didn't plan anything". In other words, if you could build a new city from the ground up, wouldn't you really have some vision and plan it out? Plan the roads. Plan where houses might be... Our city planners did not. It was pretty funny but a few months ago, there was a detour from Casa Grande freeway for some reason, I drove through 6-7 neighborhoods in order to get into Maricopa. It wasn't a clean grid like detour with one or two major streets, but it was a maze of new homes and subdivisions I was made to drive through. A planner would have planned a major road somewhere off the Casa Grande freeway that intersected cleanly back into Maricopa. You know, with stop lights, etc. "Wait that isn't our land" come the replies. Well, you should have taken that much and paid the people for it. Stop being spineless. Your lack of spine is really going to damage this community long term.
Now come the excuses, "oh the growth was too fast", "Indian reservation", "ADOT", "It's not my job". Whenever I read responses like "twostep", I think it is a public official responding trying to defend the terrible job they've done. They have every reason to take comments like mine personally. The best part of writing here is that I've found that a lot of other people feel the same way I do. Some less passionately perhaps, but still, they feel the same general way about what is being done.
By the way, when you ask "could you do a better job? My answer is "absolutely". I probably have more education and have managed larger $ projects than anyone in the government here. However, I don't think a government job could afford me. Sorry. | | | |
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| | DesertDweller
Posts:2548
| | 11/22/2007 10:16 AM |
Alert | | For all of you who regret moving here, I share your feelings. I regret that you moved here too. | |
Stupid should hurt!
Desert Dweller - Senior Member - Posts: 2982 - Joined: Feb 2006 | |
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| | twostep23
Posts:1684
| | 11/22/2007 10:45 AM |
Alert | Two last points then I'm done going in circles here.
1. There is nothing wrong with pointing out the things that are wrong or what needs to be fixed to make this an even better place. But every post being negative just is over the top.
2. If you "absolutely" (your words) can do a better job I would like to suggest that you run for office. What name will we be looking for on the ballet to vote for?
And in parting just to let you know that I am not a public official trying to defend my job. I'm actually an inventory control specialist that drives the 347 each and every day.
Good luck to you and I hope that you find happiness either here or in another city.
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| | asugrl
Posts:360
| | 11/22/2007 12:08 PM |
Alert | | I have my issues with the city, too, but it's really not that bad a city overall. I hate the traffic and dislike when they decide to do construction in the middle of the day, but that's really the only complaint I have. I know that it's only temporary and will improve with time. Either live with it for now or make a change; either way, stop complaining all the time. It only makes the city look like it's full of depressing negative nancies. We're not all like that. | | | |
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| | singinsunqueen
Posts:37
| | 11/22/2007 12:20 PM |
Alert | ASU girl:
I agree with the "stop complaining part" and what it is making our city look like, that is why I posted a thread for thos eof us that do have problems with this city and need a better way to express them, to start taking action by writing letters, attending city council meetings, speaking personally with the members, etc... all of which I have done,. I have not posted on here since this post and I can't even go on this website without getting terribly depressed.
People are entitled to like or dislike where they live... different things are important to different people, however I DID state in my other post that THIS is not the forum to do it and I learned that the hard way. Posting on this forum will only make us look like mean spirited people and those who don't live in Maricopa and are considering a move will look the other way if they read this forum. I know I would have. However, if people don't like things, they need to speak up somewhere, just not here because a) they only get ailenated by those who like it and b) their gripes/concerns do not get heard by the people who really need to hear it, i.e. the gov't, azot, etc.
We should really put this thread to rest already. I know I started it, but c'mon, enough is enough guys. Maybe all of us that are unhappy can somehow get together or work together to make this a place we want to live. | | | |
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