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Lano
Posts:275
 | | 11/22/2007 1:15 PM |
 Alert | | Twostep.....come on, people who point out the glaring needs of our city, according to you, must #1 participate in the community or leave now, and #2 go seek the happiness we so desperately crave?? Could'nt it be that we're just expressing concerns on an open forum, that's generally all about living in Maricopa?? BTW...I do not complain all the time, for people who don't want to see the complaints there's a happy place section on here. I'm sure it's all the pie in the sky stuff you can stomach. Speaking of pie in the sky....Happy Thanksgiving!!! | | | |
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| | mallardisme
Posts:588
| | 11/23/2007 2:05 AM |
Alert | LOL!
Move to the Bay Area in California. They have worked since 1969 to get BART from Fremont to San Jose. (They have collected taxes for this, but spent the taxes on other things)
Y'all have it great here.
Personally, I love it here. For the most part people are kind and chivalry still exists.
BH is a joke. You could not afford to meet your neighbors. (Check you wallet, that would be how you are judged)
LA is fun, but understand that McArther Park and Pacific Palisades are VERY different.
I guess the cactus is always greener.
Oh, and darn... In California, your house would be close to a million dollars. I have not seen your home, but stand by that statement.
LOLOLOL. Yep, give me Arizona any day over California. I could not be happier. | |
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| | alwaysamytoo
Posts:0
| | 11/23/2007 11:54 AM |
Alert | <div class='NTForums_Quote'>Posted By alwaysamyalso on 11/22/2007 10:44 PM
I agree with you completely you are so right and the bomb!!!!</div>
I do believe this "alwaysamyalso" has an issue, trying to clone us! Please enjoy yourself, we just can't get over your need to find someway to try to imitate us, you must be very bored! Do you actually have a job? and a social life, family? or just spend all your time trying to aggravate us? Have fun with it! Your amusing us! | | | |
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| | Lees2
Posts:586
| | 11/29/2007 2:38 PM |
Alert | I spoke to Mayor Anderson about the train situation a while back. He attends every hearing where the railroad wants to increase this or do that. He has repeatedly asked that the railroad help pay for the overpass, to which they indicate they will give us a very small portion. The railroad simply does not care. Mayor Anderson indicated that the city would have to pay for millions of dollars for the overpass. Money the city does not have. Last I spoke to him, he was still trying to get the railroad to foot more of the bill. So Denna, with a little e-mail to the Mayor, you can probably find out the specific facts on what he is doing and where he is at with the railroad at this time.
I think Fritzy is right, I don't think the overpass will end up on the 347 because it will be much cheaper for the city to build it elsewhere, and probably without the hassle of the issues with ADOT.
The lights were another issue. When we first started demanding lights on the 347, it was right after Hurricane Katrina. All the pre-built light poles went to Louisana and Mississippi, which put the rest of the country on back-order status. Poopoo happens. One more light and they are done and we won't have lights to complain about, at least for a while. I am no fan of ADOT and I e-mail them and write them with my complaints probably on a weekly basis. By the way, Cabana had it almost right. The light by the school was delayed because the developer refused to pay for the damages done to the light and the developer and the contractor argued over it for some time until, I THINK, the developer ended up paying to fix it. The developer for Maricopa Meadows and Tortosa is on my poopoo list also.
Anyway, I am glad I live here. I had cow smell in Mesa and never assumed I had a right to complain about a business that existed well before I moved to Arizona. The cow smell is STILL there by the way. I lived in a city much like this one, that had growing pains, much like this one. By the way, 25 years later, they still have cow smell there too. It's not uncommon to have horse and goat smell there either. Oh, and that city didn't eradicate the skunks either. Ever hit a skunk? You will wish you had cow smell.
Personally, I liked that city and this city better when it had more of a rural feeling to it. I hope the city keeps the new look country. I don't want it to look like Scottsdale, it's too stuffy looking. I am tired of people coming to a new place and changing it the way it was "back home." If the place you left was so nice, go back. I moved here because I like it the way it is. | |
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| | So.SideCubFan
Posts:95
| | 11/29/2007 9:36 PM |
Alert | Paradise Valley.. You have to drive through the ghetto to get there... Actually, you can get a bag of meth and a hooker a block from the Biltmore.
Beverly Hills.. Surrounded by ghetto's and freaks..
Let's face the facts. Many of the people here have never had to experience a ghetto, are college educated, and think that everyone owe's them something.
I would also like the town to clean up a little.. ALOT! But what no one is taking into consideration, is the rate of growth that this town had and continues to have.
The poop cloud of the Casa Grande Highway is the most nasty thing that I have ever driven through.. And I have to do it every day. No way around it.. Even if you go through Stanfield. If we lost that business, there would be many more people out of work (unless they can fill the land with Profitable Businesses) and what would Denna have to complain about? | | | |
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| | So.SideCubFan
Posts:95
| | 11/29/2007 9:53 PM |
Alert | "By the way folks, there is something called eminent domain. The government can take land for the good of the people. "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few... or the one." If they took my house I would be fine with it as long as I got a fair price. I don't see how they are going to do this train overpass they are promising without taking out some buildings in the process."
I have to agree Denna... There were Thousand's of homes knocked down in Chicago for the expansion of Midway Airport.. What about the 202 coming out to 51st ave? Wont any houses be bought/demolished for construction in Laveen and Ahwatukee? | | | |
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|  | HiggsBoson
Posts:641
| | 11/30/2007 1:51 PM |
Alert | Denna is absolutely right, private property owners should not be allowed to decide what to do with their property, and who really cares if the State owns this, or ADOT controls that?. As Mayor of Maricopa I will set up a website where the fine residents will be able to vote with a simple thumbs up or down on what in Maricopa stays as is and what gets bulldozed. Dont like the manufactured home dealer? BULLDOZED! Dont like someones trailer home? BULLDOZED! Hate Nail Salons, BULLDOZED! Ok, maybe we wont bulldoze the nail salons, just strip it and run them out of town.
I AM A MAN OF ACTION!
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The Honorable Higgs Boson | |
Liberalism and capitalism address themselves to the cool, well-balanced mind. They proceed by strict logic, eliminating any appeal to the emotions. Socialism, on the contrary, works on the emotions, tries to violate logical considerations by rousing a sense of personal interest and to stifle the voice of reason by awakening primitive instincts.
-- Ludwig Von Mises | |
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| | twinkleblue
Posts:48
| | 11/30/2007 2:04 PM |
Alert | | Lol Higgs Boson, you crack me up!<img src='http://www.85239.com/desktopmodules/ntforums/images/emoticons/hehe.gif' height='20' width='20' border='0' title='HeHe' align='absmiddle'> | | | |
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| | Gamme
Posts:206
| | 12/03/2007 10:27 AM |
Alert | Denna, You asked how many years it took to get all the cows out of Chandler. Almost 20 years for most of them. I think they are not all gone, yet.
You indicated that Chandler or Scottsdale would not allow such unsightly dwellings as the ones here in Maricopa, but actually 50-60 style houses and abandoned old shacks still exist in most all AZ cities!
There is a whole school district of older houses in Scottsdale and houses that are 50-60 years old throughout Chandler, Mesa, Ahwatukee, etc. Drive around and you'll see "really" run down abandaned shacks in a few neighborhoods that also include half million dollar homes in Chandler and I am sure in all of the other cities.
None of these cities were built overnight. I have watched them grow and expand from narrow 2 lane highways into 6 lane super roads, but it certainly didn't happen overnight.
For example, fifteen years ago, Alma School Rd from Chandler Blvd to Sun Lakes was just a narrow 2 lane Rd. There were no 101 or 202s. There were almost no houses and certainly no businesses in the Ocotillo area. It was farmland and the developers were just starting to open it up for building homes.
Maricopa is just 3 years old and some of us want all of the amenities that it has taken other cities ages to create. As someone suggested, get involved. We can all make a difference... and along the way you will probably make some great friends. It's the journey that's important in life, not the destination. | | | |
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| | asugrl
Posts:571
| | 12/03/2007 12:00 PM |
Alert | | Yep, you have not lived in Scottsdale or Chandler long enough if you have not seen livestock and rundown houses in some parts of town. I grew up in Scottsdale and we always joked about the "ghetto" there; although it may not be like Compton exactly, there are rundown areas of Scottsdale where I would not want to live. When I moved to Chandler I thought everything looked so much nicer than a lot of Scottsdale, just because everything was brand new. Then I happened upon some not so nice areas of Chandler. It happens in every city. And yes, Maricopa is just starting to develop; I am sure a lot has changed in the last few years. It may seem like the growth has slowed down lately, but there will be times when it seems so fast. Every city goes through phases, and it would be silly to expect one to just develop completely within a couple years. | | | |
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| | Sinbad
Posts:3046
| | 12/03/2007 12:41 PM |
Alert | | Why can't we alljust GET ALONG? | |
Just doing it one day at a time. Change is good and it should be looked upon as an improvment! not a problem.
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| | Denna
Posts:0
| | 12/03/2007 12:48 PM |
Alert | | OK. You all have me convinced. How about if the city just levels the ugly red barn, the trailor dealer, the smelly dead cow processing factory, and some of the older buildings. It could then rebuild the courthouse and police station and fire department. Also move the tracks out of town and move the cows with them. Then I will be happy... Oh and build a road through Indian land - with their approval of course, into the Phoenix metro area. | | | |
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| | mrwonderful
Posts:256
| | 12/03/2007 3:19 PM |
Alert | | HiggsBoson: How would you like to have millions of dollars invested in land here in Maricopa and have someone wanting to bulldoz your investments down? You have NO right making statements like that about other peoples property. Oh well by the way at least the red barn and other properties are fully paid for!!! We dont buy these investment properties with ZERO down and High payments. Lets BULLDOZE ALL houses in these subdivisions that have only 5ft space between them we don't like to look at that. | | | |
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| | Denna
Posts:0
| | 12/03/2007 4:39 PM |
Alert | I would get out while the getting is good and sell my investment to places like Target, IHOP, and Burger King. I would realize that I was just dragging the town down with my "the way it used to be" old school mentallity and, in the interest of seeing Maricopa prosper, yes I would sell. Certainly the statement "out with the old and in with the new" applies to more than linens.
It is the land that is valuable, not the buildings. HiggsBoson for mayor!!!! | | | |
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| | Sapo
Posts:186
| | 12/03/2007 4:45 PM |
Alert | <div class='NTForums_Quote'>Posted By mrwonderful on 12/03/2007 3:19 PM
Lets BULLDOZE ALL houses in these subdivisions that have only 5ft space between them we don't like to look at that.</div>
RIGHT ON Mr. Wonderful!!! Bulldoze 'em all down. Bunch of ugly, boring, barracks-like, puke-brown eyesores. Who designed those stinking nasty-looking things anyway?
I am FIRST in THIS line with line with a sledgehammer. Where should we start? Rancho el Dorado because it's the oldest? Or Tortosa, to do all those folks a favor before the floods wash them all away??
Who wants in on this??
Sapo
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| | TheBoymaker
Posts:775
| | 12/03/2007 5:25 PM |
Alert | LMAO! Poop cloud on CGH - have you ever seen such a thing?? It's a haze of stink. At least you get notice to suck in your breath.
Denna's qpology is so back-handed that she should take up tennis.  | |
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| | mrwonderful
Posts:256
| | 12/03/2007 5:28 PM |
Alert | | Sapo: Could you imagine if we had the winds and fire here in Maricopa that California had? I'd like to see them live in the FEMA trailers it would be interesting to watch. | | | |
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| | Fritzydoodle
Posts:973
| | 12/03/2007 5:31 PM |
Alert | <div class='NTForums_Quote'>Posted By Denna on 12/03/2007 4:39 PM
I would get out while the getting is good and sell my investment to places like Target, IHOP, and Burger King. I would realize that I was just dragging the town down with my "the way it used to be" old school mentallity and, in the interest of seeing Maricopa prosper, yes I would sell. Certainly the statement "out with the old and in with the new" applies to more than linens.
It is the land that is valuable, not the buildings. HiggsBoson for mayor!!!!</div>
Denna - you can only SELL if someone wants to BUY. What makes you think Target and the other big box stores are ready to open shop in Maricopa? Just because you want them here doesn't mean they are ready. The demographics are not in place to insure profitability. IHOP, Burger King etc - buy a franchise and open one yourself.
Yes, land is more valuable that the building. But until it makes sense economically - no one is going to buy that land! And don't kid yourself in thinking the only reason they aren't here now is the lack of median landscaping and eau de cow. They could care less about aestetics that can and will be changed. They are only interested in the demo numbers. Give them 100,000 people and they will open the doors. Give them a downward real estate market and it's a wait and see game.
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| | Sapo
Posts:186
| | 12/03/2007 5:42 PM |
Alert | <div class='NTForums_Quote'>Posted By mrwonderful on 12/03/2007 5:28 PM
Sapo: Could you imagine if we had the winds and fire here in Maricopa that California had? I'd like to see them live in the FEMA trailers it would be interesting to watch. </div>
FEMA trailers would be prettier, IMO. But it sure would be funny, eh?
Sapo
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| | mrwonderful
Posts:256
| | 12/03/2007 5:56 PM |
Alert | | Sapo: Deanna could not live in one. We will put hers by the milkyway Dairy on my piece of property. | | | |
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