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Sinbad
Posts:3058
 | | 09/26/2007 8:32 AM |
 Alert | Oh yeah.. still liking living here
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Just doing it one day at a time. Change is good and it should be looked upon as an improvment! not a problem.
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| | JasonY
Posts:3446
| | 09/26/2007 9:31 AM |
Alert | Yes I agree exactly Eagles. I am so sick of people saying "did you check out the city before you moved?" HELLO! People have this thing called a job, which they work at for 8-9 hours a day, and then a family to take care of when they get home. There is no way someone can predict how a city will be run, or that growth will slow down, or that people will get tazed at restaurants, or that ADOT will lose all common sense when trying to re-surface a major road, or that city management will abuse power....from outside this town.
When people complain about this city, they aren't complaining about the people. The people are great, the scenery is great, and the small business owners are great. | |
"My favorite health club is the International House of Pancakes" -- Lewis Black | |
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| | CliffinAZ
Posts:451
| | 09/26/2007 10:37 AM |
Alert | Yes JasonY, I will say that since we moved here my wife and I have met some very outgoing, friendly people. It was great to see the outpouring of support after the bookstore got broken into. And the scenery is truly beautiful out here.
Hopefully the abuse of power problem starts to get ironed out in elections--I know I'll be out voting! I'm hopeful about that because it seems that the city council is being held very accountable for its actions at this point. People have been doing a great job of using this website and its forums in particular for sharing information about the city's leadership and actions. | | | |
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| | JasonY
Posts:3446
| | 09/26/2007 10:48 AM |
Alert | I agree 100%. The bookstore is the best, and who knows what other evil deeds the city council could have done if it wasn't for people complaining on this website. Power to the people.
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"My favorite health club is the International House of Pancakes" -- Lewis Black | |
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| | vandm
Posts:3
| | 09/29/2007 9:24 PM |
Alert | | ow yaa the cows just got here last night the just shut down the hospital and the mall last week talk about the blind leading the blind | | | |
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| | rule11
Posts:344
| | 09/29/2007 11:19 PM |
Alert | | not enough ppl do enough homework/research prior to moving here. i can't say i regret moving out here, if you move here, then you'll have to stay here long enough for "big city stuff" to come. | |
i don't like people who uses "signature" on their profile. TAKE IT OFF!!! | |
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|  | AZ_Sunshine
Posts:4
| | 10/04/2007 9:14 AM |
Alert | | This is a miserable town to live in. We moved here 3 years ago and bought a $400,000. home thinking it would be like chandler or awatukee. as many of us thought....we were wrong. My husband passed several months ago and I'm trying to sell my house along with 70% of this town. I think we all made a bad decision. Pinal County is running this town and they are cluless. Everyone I have met wants to move or is selling. My street alone has 25 homes for sale in Rancho El Dorado.....ghost town. Most people out here are miserable as we are which makes them rude. There are lots of speeders driving crazy down 347. Sorry for venting but their are several of us that don't know how to get out of here. I'm willing to face foreclosure if my house doesn't sell just to get out of here | | | |
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| | cbjlovenest
Posts:105
| | 10/04/2007 2:55 PM |
Alert | Im just wondering, where are all of you people from? Are you just transplants from other states that bought houses before you saw them or what?
I know I moved from Mesa to south Chandler in 1996, our group of homes were the only ones there at that time. I remember seeing the schools and grocery stores get built all around us. The community slowly grew into a bustling area. So I moved to Gilbert in 2000, same story, no grocery stores at that time, but they came, and the traffic came, then the Target, and all of the other stuff.
So here we are moving to Maricopa...in five or six years, Maricopa will look like any other community around metro Phoenix. We have no doubt. I know my friends have lived out there for decades, progress is slow, but steady in Arizona, you have to remember that most of the communities you see around Metro Phoenix werent even there ten years ago, the state is not one that has a long history of development, so everything that you see has to be built by Arizonans together as we go.
Anyways, I would just say with but a few exceptions, you have moved out here for one reason, you could afford it, you couldnt afford to move to a community that a had all of this stuff when you bought your house, probably still cant now (I know I cant), do you want to go back to renting in Mesa or look forwards towards the community we are building out here together?
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| | CliffinAZ
Posts:451
| | 10/04/2007 3:08 PM |
Alert | I'm hoping that once the real estate situation levels out a bit, and the city leadership situation gets sorted out through accountability (which we now have--no more honeymoon, everyone's eyes are open) and elections, we'll see more growth here. Hopefully that's sooner or later.
The other point is that if you had moved to Mesa or somewhere that was already built up, you wouldn't see the sort of appreciation you'll hopefully see when Maricopa does build up more and housing is more expensive as a result of it. | | | |
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| | CliffinAZ
Posts:451
| | 10/04/2007 3:56 PM |
Alert | | Cbjlovenest, you seem to have personal experience with living in the towns/cities around here as they grew. In terms of the leadership issues we've been having in Maricopa, do you remember similar problems in the other towns during those early stages of growth, or does this seem specific to Maricopa? | | | |
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| | GilaGuy
Posts:789
| | 10/04/2007 5:39 PM |
Alert | <div class='NTForums_Quote'>Posted By AZ_Sunshine on 10/04/2007 9:14 AM
This is a miserable town to live in. We moved here 3 years ago and bought a $400,000. home thinking it would be like chandler or awatukee. as many of us thought....we were wrong. My husband passed several months ago and I'm trying to sell my house along with 70% of this town. </div>
I am sorry to hear the sad news about your husband, and hope you are holding up well.
I don't find this town "miserable" to live in, and I wonder if your most unfortunate circumstances are coloring your perception? Certainly losing a spouse can be looked upon as an acceptable thing to be upset about, but I think that perfectly reasonable thing needs to be taken separately from how you feel about the town.
For one thing, Pinal County doesn't run the town...we have our own leadership, which is quite possibly part of our problem. You've been here three years, which is historically an extraordinarily short period of time to expect a town to go from walnut groves to Ahwatukee. I agree that the price you paid seems outrageous at this juncture, but had circumstances been different (with you being able to stay in for the long term), you'd have seen an equalization in prices over time.
Yes, we are surrounded by folks who made bad decisions, are upset with those decisions, and can sometimes take them out on others. But we are also surrounded by the Silent Majority. Those of us who are very happy here, find the commute to be an acceptable price to pay for a place where you can (for now) still see stars at night, and don't fear the short-term downturn we're in at the moment. You see, folks who are genuinely happy don't have an axe to grind. And folks without an axe to grind have no reason to speak up. We're silent, but we're out there if you look carefully. :-)
We're due for a leadership change here relatively soon, and I think that'll be the first step towards making some progress. I understand you've had some hard times lately, but if you find a way, the good folk of this town will be glad to have you around. ;-) | | | |
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| | CliffinAZ
Posts:451
| | 10/05/2007 9:01 AM |
Alert | | Yes, AZSunshine, I also hope that you will stay. Like GilaGuy, I believe that there are a lot of good people here, and would rather see you wait things out to get a return on younvestement than deal with the consequences of a foreclosure on top of losing your husband. | | | |
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| | Alx
Posts:17
| | 10/09/2007 6:18 PM |
Alert | I've moved here two months ago and am still getting used to not living in socal. So far I love the place. I can see the stars at night and there is a big blue sky. Im living with family as my house is being built. The only regret I have is getting a job in North Phoenix. But I am starting a new job in Tempe next week and will be making more then I did in Orange County. I guess the 12% difference in earning from socal to AZ depends on your occupation.
Oh and this is my first post here, nice to meet everyone.
*goes back to noob corner* | | | |
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| | CliffinAZ
Posts:451
| | 10/09/2007 11:06 PM |
Alert | | Welcome to Maricopa Alx! | | | |
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| | drummer72
Posts:3886
| | 10/09/2007 11:40 PM |
Alert | | Welcome to SoAZ. | |
"Everything for everyone and nothing for ourselves" | |
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| | cbjlovenest
Posts:105
| | 10/11/2007 9:26 AM |
Alert | Im sorry, I have been on vacation for a few days....
I would say YES! that has been my experience throughout my history in Arizona. This place has grown so quickly. When I first came here Williams Gateway was still an active Air Force Base, the 60 didnt even go to Country Club yet, and most of Chandler and Gilbert was farm land with dirt roads. Maricopa is a town that most of us living in the east valley knew about as a remote location for years, before the 347 cut through to the 8 (in the last 10 years or so) I dont think anyone visited there unless they had to. So you can see that there are going to be two competing..... | | | |
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| | cbjlovenest
Posts:105
| | 10/11/2007 9:30 AM |
Alert | | .....ideas about what should happen here as the city grows, many people I know moved out here to have some land, and be able to do as they want, they dont really like the idea that this is turning into a version of chandler or gilbert. Then there are all of us, people from the valley, and people from the rest of the country that have moved here over the last five or so years. If that wasnt bad enough, most all of those decisions are now being made by comittee, and I dont intend to be mean, but most of them are not geniuses, and even the small groups have different visions for the future amongst themselves. | | | |
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| | cbjlovenest
Posts:105
| | 10/11/2007 9:36 AM |
Alert | | What I recommend is get involved, I am not a public servant type, but I pay attention to the local news. Get to know the names of the people on the boards you have issues with, I dont attend meetings but I do read the minutes. Then register to vote in your new home and county, make the time to vote, it has never taken me more than five or ten minutes so you feel like you have a say (you can of course have more say by being more involved than I am). But mainly I would just say get ready for the ride of a lifetime, all of the places that I have seen grow up here have ended up being very nice communities, but we all moved here not knowing what the final picture would be like. The time may come when its time to move again if the final product doesnt feel like home. ;-) | | | |
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| | CliffinAZ
Posts:451
| | 10/11/2007 10:17 AM |
Alert | | Cbjlowenest, thanks for getting back to me on this. But I guess my concern has to do more with some of the corrupt/questionable moves that have been made by the leadership here (as an example, not separating city decisions from vested interests--standing to personally make money by using certain vendors for the city; doing what's in one's own best interests to make a few bucks rather than necessarily what's in the best interest of the city). I'm wondering if you saw the same sort of things happening early on in the other cities/towns? is this problem par for the course from what you've seen, or is it specific to Maricopa? | | | |
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| | cbjlovenest
Posts:105
| | 10/11/2007 3:41 PM |
Alert | | Gotchya........I really dont have any knowledge of those sorts of things going on in the valley, I have always felt that we were kinda of unique on that point. It always seemed to me that there was very little corruption in the major governments up in the valley. It could be rampant for all we know, just not reported, but that was always my feeling at least. I think its pretty universal now that people are supposed to recuse themselves if they have a conflict of interest, at least in terms of principle, but obviously not in practice. I still think that is the basic answer to those things (as well as tools like this forum). We need to have good reporting of what is going on, read meeting minutes, and vote vote vote, with so many new people in the city its hard to have any sort of history to judge someone from starting out. We just have to make sure not to make the same mistakes twice, and get rid of the bad apples. | | | |
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