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JMR9999User is Offline

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02/05/2008 8:13 PM Alert 
Today, the front page of the Washington Post has a article called "Housing Crisis Cast a Cloud Over Sun Belt"
The first paragraph, and I quote
"When residents of Maricopa, Ariz., south of Phoenix, vote in the presidential primaries Tuesday, it will be against of backdrop of vacant storefronts and sprawling, terra-cotta-roofed subdivisions that are studded with for-sale signs as far as the eye can see."
As I'm a part time resident of Maricopa (wish I was full time), I say "MOO"!
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02/05/2008 8:56 PM Alert 
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JasonUser is Offline

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02/05/2008 8:56 PM Alert 
And people say 85239 is bad for Maricopa!

Maybe our new City Manager could put in a call or letter to the Washington Post. This is a very biased piece that never should have seen the light of day.

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02/05/2008 9:00 PM Alert 
Link to the article

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JMR9999User is Offline

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02/05/2008 9:24 PM Alert 
I know -- the only clause in the sentence that's accurate is "south of Phoenix."
60milecommuteUser is Offline

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02/06/2008 11:28 AM Alert 
<div class='NTForums_Quote'>Posted By JMR9999 on 02/05/2008 9:24 PM
I know -- the only clause in the sentence that's accurate is "south of Phoenix." </div>

I'd say it's pretty accurate. Both houses on each side of me are bank owned and I can see 2 more from my front yard, and that's not including the house's that are actually for sale by the owners, and who knows how far along in the foreclosure process that those houses are. So yea it's pretty accurate.
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02/06/2008 12:14 PM Alert 
i gotta go with 60mile on this one, where are the inaccuracies? sounds like maricopa in a nutshell to me.
JasonUser is Offline

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02/06/2008 1:51 PM Alert 
As far as my eye can see, down my street and several others near me, there are only a few for sale signs. We've got Walmart, McDonalds, QT and other businesses coming in. The article paints an unwarranted, one-sided picture that could be fairly damaging to Maricopa. It's not like there aren't areas of the Valley that are doing the same as we are. Some are even doing worse! I think even Queen Creek is in worse shape than us.

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02/06/2008 2:17 PM Alert 
Jason your living in dream land as usual i am glad I rented before I bought out here Thank god for good advise haha oooooohhhh what a difference a year makes...sell high...rent...buy low!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JasonUser is Offline

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02/06/2008 3:29 PM Alert 
They've painted us as a ghost town and I'm the one living in a dreamland?

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02/07/2008 6:26 PM Alert 
I just sent a email to the author of the article. I told him to come show me all the empty store fronts other than the newly constructed on e that just went in. I want him to see this is not a ghost town like he depicted in his article...the traffic here shows that is far from the truth. I know there are houses for sale , but the same is true for Chandler near my parents. They probably have more for sale signsthere, than I see here.
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02/08/2008 9:49 AM Alert 
I agree with Jason. It is a little overblown. Areas like in Johnson ranch are in far worse shape. If anyone has doubts, so take a Sunday drive and see it for yourself. As far as the renters are concerned, its comical to hear your comments about how great it is to rent. I rented for the last 10 years until I bought here last summer. Renting sucks. You can get kicked out at any time. You can't paint your kid's room. You have rules pretaining to pets, and the worst part is that you know, no matter what, that you will be moving. Not if, but when. I bought at a decent time, and I would take the couple hundred dollar difference a month to own over renting any day. And if you are so smart for not buying, then why are you living in Maricopa? There are affordable rentals everywhere. The article is acurate when taken as a broad paint brush of Phoenix, but the line about Maricopa could be applied anywhere from Buckeye, Goodyear, Mesa, Gilbert, and especially Queen creek and Suprise.
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02/08/2008 10:30 AM Alert 
About the MC Donalds, and the Wallmart comming in

First of all usually big companies would do a solid geographical sensus of population and growth, before they would consider to come in, and that is done by a team.

Wallmart is not going to loose, Im sure that there is even a bigger team of people to make sure that if it is not successfull, they will come out smelling like a rose

You cannot drag me into a Wallmart, and each and every one of you should really consider Boycott it by not shopping there, as this only promotes us to buy more crap from foriegn countries, and support the documented conditions in which these people have to work.

Everyone thinks they save because they shop at Wallmart, but think of what it is really costing us as Americans.


Azgram01User is Offline

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02/08/2008 11:11 AM Alert 
TDS2277....
PLEASE....... give me a list of stores where I can buy American made goods..... Or a list of American made products (that are not junk). I will gladly patronize those stores and purchase those goods.
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02/08/2008 3:32 PM Alert 
The article is interesting, especially since it mentions Phoenix and Maricopa County suffering. It only mentions the City of Maricopa at the beginning, so all of you stating that the same criticisms can be used when referring to other communities, please note, the article mentioned Phoenix, had a quote from a homeowner in Avondale, and talked about Glendale and the Super Bowl.
Although we do not have stores empty due to the inability to get a business into the storefront, we do have a lot of homes in foreclosure or for sale. Arizona State University studies both Maricopa and Queen Creek, and felt we were in worse shape than most. Unlike some of the other communities that have had more years of growth, and thus more years to put in roads, Libraries, parks and other needs, Maricopa and Queen Creek were hit with faster growth over a short period of time resulting in a harder time in meeting some of our transportation, parks and other community needs.
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02/08/2008 3:32 PM Alert 
Posted By tds2277 on 02/08/2008 10:30 AM
About the MC Donalds, and the Wallmart comming in

First of all usually big companies would do a solid geographical sensus of population and growth, before they would consider to come in, and that is done by a team.

Wallmart is not going to loose, Im sure that there is even a bigger team of people to make sure that if it is not successfull, they will come out smelling like a rose

You cannot drag me into a Wallmart, and each and every one of you should really consider Boycott it by not shopping there, as this only promotes us to buy more crap from foriegn countries, and support the documented conditions in which these people have to work.

Everyone thinks they save because they shop at Wallmart, but think of what it is really costing us as Americans.

Where is that computer you are using,made? Or, your shoes,pants,shirt..etc. etc.  


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02/09/2008 12:16 PM Alert 

Posted By tds2277 on 02/08/2008 10:30 AM
About the MC Donalds, and the Wallmart comming in

First of all usually big companies would do a solid geographical sensus of population and growth, before they would consider to come in, and that is done by a team.

Wallmart is not going to loose, Im sure that there is even a bigger team of people to make sure that if it is not successfull, they will come out smelling like a rose

You cannot drag me into a Wallmart, and each and every one of you should really consider Boycott it by not shopping there, as this only promotes us to buy more crap from foriegn countries, and support the documented conditions in which these people have to work.

Everyone thinks they save because they shop at Wallmart, but think of what it is really costing us as Americans.

I hope that you also don't buy at Best Buy, Target, etc.--basically ANY of the big-box stores.  The reality is that none of them are any different from Wal-Mart in terms of business practices, etc.  For that matter, just about any of the smaller stores you walk into is going to be carrying at least some non-American products at this point, so I hope that you're also checking all labels and fully researching all brands of anything that you're about to buy in any store before you buy it (whether it's a t-shirt, an appliance, a pair of sneakers--anything), if you truly want to make sure that you're buying no foreign goods whatsoever.

The full reality is that the economy is so global that many US companies are using offshore work anyway, and many foreign companies have involvement from those in the US as well.  To think of any of the larger companies being purely being American, Japanese, or Chinese is really an outdated way of thinking (i.e., thinking of the way companies worked 30 years ago rather than how they work today)--because so many companies are truly global in today's economy and span across many countries.  The consulting firm I work for is an example of this--we started in the US but are now multinational, with offices and practices all across the US and Europe, in Asia, etc.

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02/09/2008 4:25 PM Alert 
Just got back from a walk around 1/2 of our neighborhood and counted 18 vacant properties, that's not even including the houses that were for sale that were still occupied. My dad lives in Tempe and I know his neighborhood doesn't have near that many. So yea, once again I say the article is pretty accurate.
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02/09/2008 9:55 PM Alert 
I completely agree. Maricopa is the biggest real-estate bust I have ever seen up close.

In fact the whole town may be a bust considering the limited ingress-egress.

Oh, and McDonalds doesn't come in without a population of 100k to support it.
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02/10/2008 5:40 PM Alert 
Wal Mart is great and I WILL shop there ... cannot wait. I read the article and sadly, it's all true .... but I still maintain this will turn around. Real estate is cyclical and the one constant one can depend on it that this situation will change. That having been said ... I WISH I would have known to sell high and rent then buy low. We sold high in Gilbert and bought here ... and of course if I had a crystal ball I'd have rented for two years to see where the market would go .. but back in 2005/06 who knew? The builders were holding lotteries, the prices going up weekly .. it seemed like a gold mine. I know now and would not get caught up in that again, but nevertheless, I love my house and Maricopa and will only love it more ... eventually ... when this inevitably turns around, businesses and employment are here and my house is back to being worth what I paid for it or more (knock wood).
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