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Lano
Posts:265
 | | 09/01/2007 9:09 PM |
 Alert | <div class='NTForums_Quote'>Posted By TortosaGuy on 09/01/2007 8:58 PM
i personally dont care which big box store comes first if ever...anything to keep money in our little town and get more growth out here works for me...
the problem is.....none of the money is staying in our town. It's all being spent elsewhere because there is not much here. | | | |
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| | Colgate
Posts:575
| | 09/01/2007 9:33 PM |
Alert | <div class='NTForums_Quote'>Posted By Lano on 09/01/2007 9:09 PM
<div class='NTForums_Quote'>Posted By TortosaGuy on 09/01/2007 8:58 PM
i personally dont care which big box store comes first if ever...anything to keep money in our little town and get more growth out here works for me...
Lano,
I can't agree more!
the problem is.....none of the money is staying in our town. It's all being spent elsewhere because there is not much here.</div>
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| | love@hm
Posts:409
| | 09/02/2007 9:58 AM |
Alert | Walmart has business practices. They are doing business and nothing more, they are not out to hurt the 'little people', but are instead providing work to people who may or may not be able to get work elsewhere. There is no reason they should have to pay more, or allow more hours. . . if the employees don't like it, they ARE free to find work elsewhere. I completely agree that Target, Home Depot, even Costco are doing the exact same thing as Walmart. . .the only true crime Walmart commits is having dirty stores, and truth be told, some of that comes from their customers and how the customers act in the store!
While I love Target stores more, I will support Walmart just as much as always, of course w/o a fabric department, if Target were here - PRICE would be the deciding factor as quality of product quite often is the same.
As for minimum wage, it is not meant to support a family. It will never be able to support a family, as when minimum wage is raised, the cost is passed onto consumers and then MY family suffers because we don't get a raise while the teenage stock boys do.
IMHO, minimum wage could be done away with - or at least left to stagnate for eternity - let people be paid what they are willing to work for, instead of the gov't telling employers what is fair and what isn't. . .
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| | garden glow
Posts:661
| | 09/02/2007 11:22 AM |
Alert | <div class='NTForums_Quote'>Posted By YZRacer on 08/31/2007 8:37 AM
I would spend $10 on it for ethical reasons that i mentioned above. i am not going to argue with you, i have my opinion and you have yours.
However, I will say that I am not the only Walmart hater in Maricopa. </div>
To join the WMHC all you need to do is view the documentary....and if your a union worker you are probably already a member...
"Walmart the High Cost of Low Prices! "
eye-opening!!!
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| | HiggsBoson
Posts:641
| | 09/02/2007 11:15 PM |
Alert | <div class='NTForums_Quote'>Posted By YZRacer on 08/30/2007 2:59 PM
They also treat their vendors poorly (and I know this from 1st hand experience). For example, my worldly popular product (ie Budweiser, CocaCola, etc) is priced at $12/case to the stores. Walmart says "nope, you will give it to us for the price of $10/case and like it, or we won't stock your product".
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Not only do they have the nerve of trying to get lower prices from suppliers, but get this, they have the nerve to pass the savings on to the consumer!
Thanks,
Higgs
P.S. Type Target vs Walmart into Google, that is the homework for all those that think Wal-Mart is the devil and Target is great. | |
Liberalism and capitalism address themselves to the cool, well-balanced mind. They proceed by strict logic, eliminating any appeal to the emotions. Socialism, on the contrary, works on the emotions, tries to violate logical considerations by rousing a sense of personal interest and to stifle the voice of reason by awakening primitive instincts.
-- Ludwig Von Mises | |
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| | High i
Posts:110
| | 09/03/2007 6:07 PM |
Alert | "P.S. Type Target vs Walmart into Google, that is the homework for all those that think Wal-Mart is the devil and Target is great."
Why would we want to do research ourselves when we can all sit back and let the nice ethically responsible unions tell us what we should believe? That would be foolish! | | | |
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|  | GilaGuy
Posts:789
| | 09/11/2007 8:27 AM |
Alert | <div class='NTForums_Quote'>Posted By High i on 09/03/2007 6:07 PM
Why would we want to do research ourselves when we can all sit back and let the nice ethically responsible unions tell us what we should believe? That would be foolish! <img src='http://www.85239.com/desktopmodules/ntforums/images/emoticons/biggrin.gif' height='20' width='20' border='0' title='Big Grin' align='absmiddle'></div>
Indeed, sir! <img src='http://www.85239.com/desktopmodules/ntforums/images/emoticons/smile.gif' height='20' width='20' border='0' title='Smile' align='absmiddle'> Unions that have an axe to grind are probably not the most unbiased folks to get information from.
The groundbreaking at WalMart itself has not taken place, but some of the ancillary construction is underway. There are small bridges being built over the drainage canal that parallels MCG Highway, and there is some heavy grading work being done at the actual WalMart site, but beyond that there is not much being done. It is to WalMart's advantage to go as slowly as possible, in order to allow for the economy to pick up the slack a bit...so I would not expect the store to meet its original Spring 2008 opening date.
As for the whole WalMart hater thing, it is what it is. Frankly, I find it amusing that some folks would target that store as opposed to others which (quietly) employ the same practices, but everyone is free to make their own decisions.
In our household though, we will spend money in whatever businesses come to Maricopa on general principle. Those who open up here will be rewarded with our money, and those who don't will lose out. It's microeconomics at work. <img src='http://www.85239.com/desktopmodules/ntforums/images/emoticons/biggrin.gif' height='20' width='20' border='0' title='Big Grin' align='absmiddle'> | | | |
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| | CliffinAZ
Posts:394
| | 09/17/2007 10:45 AM |
Alert | Here's one of those articles comparing Wal-Mart to Target:
http://reclaimdemocracy.org/walmart/2005/target_better.php
If the stats, etc. in this article are accurate and the quotes not fabricated or taken out of context, then it really doesn't make any rational sense for YZRacer and others to boycott Wal-Mart--unless they are also boycotting Target and other 'big box' stores; the practices at Wal-Mart vs. Target in terms of treatment of workers are comparable (in some cases better at Wal-Mart). The ONLY reason why Wal-Mart vs. Target is getting the negative attention is because the unioins, etc. are choosing to target the bigger company--why openly acknowledging that Target isn't any better. | | | |
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| | HiggsBoson
Posts:641
| | 09/17/2007 3:59 PM |
Alert | For those that have seen "The High Cost of Low Prices" you have to realize how one sided it is correct? Do yourself a favor and do just a little more research.
Here is one review to get you started:
http://www.nationalreview.com/york/york200511230832.asp
This is good also:
... Is Wal-Mart good for America?
http://www.freetrade.org/node/663
Thanks,
Higgs | |
Liberalism and capitalism address themselves to the cool, well-balanced mind. They proceed by strict logic, eliminating any appeal to the emotions. Socialism, on the contrary, works on the emotions, tries to violate logical considerations by rousing a sense of personal interest and to stifle the voice of reason by awakening primitive instincts.
-- Ludwig Von Mises | |
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| | NY2Copa
Posts:85
| | 09/17/2007 8:39 PM |
Alert | | All I can say is BRING ON WAL MART!!!!! Bring on Target too ... but I actually prefer Wal Mart. Target is higher priced. High-I ..... All I can say is I completely agree with everything you said. Many, many years ago, my husband applied for a job in a grocery chain (not Wal Mart) and they gave him the exact hours possible to keep him working hard, but just under the time allowed for benefits. If anyone thinks this is a 'Wal Mart' practice and not just a common practice for almost any business then wake up and smell the big picture!!! I've said this a thousand times on the forums and I'll say it again ... we need these stores to turn the Copa into what we moved here for!!!! A good INVESTMENT! These stores bring other businesses ... more $$$, more jobs and round and round it goes. All I can say to all you "boycotters" ... thanks for keeping my Wal Mart lines shorter so I can not only shop convieniently but quickly too! | | | |
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| | Jerseygirl
Posts:283
| | 09/17/2007 9:04 PM |
Alert | | NY2Copa, you said it well!! We need these store to keep people here in Maricopa. I myself will drive to the shopping centers in Chandler, and do all my shopping in one day. First Walmart, then Ross, then Home Depot, then maybe even meet the DH and hit a resturant. So, how many other people do this? And Maricopa is missing out on all those tax dollars too..! | |
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| | hendersona
Posts:382
| | 09/18/2007 7:38 AM |
Alert | | I do the same thing I buy everything in Chandler or Casa grande | | | |
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| | BeerLeague2
Posts:111
| | 09/18/2007 9:29 PM |
Alert | I boycott Wal-Mart stores because they are generally very scummy.
I'll continue to go to 'Tukee and Chandler Mall area where there is a large varierty of options. I'd love to support Maricopa businesses, but there just isn't enough here yet.
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| | Marni
Posts:357
| | 09/19/2007 8:25 PM |
Alert | I would spend $10 on it for ethical reasons that i mentioned above. i am not going to argue with you, i have my opinion and you have yours.
However, I will say that I am not the only Walmart hater in Maricopa.
Same here too. Still going strong without shopping at Wal-Mart | |
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