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Colgate
Posts:586
 | | 08/28/2007 10:02 PM |
 Alert | | I can not tell you how many people ask or state do we have enough residents here in Maricopa to support a large anchor such as Target, Wally World, or any other. If you think not, where are we all driving to for products from these such stores? Also, we can't get a lot of things from simply having Fry's or Basha's! If you took a survey of how many people from Maricopa drive every weekend into the "Tukee", Chandler, Phoenix, Occotillo for products we can't buy here, the numbers would be HUGE! | |
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| | Lano
Posts:269
| | 08/28/2007 10:34 PM |
Alert | | Colgate....after a long weekday commute, my wife hits the road every weekend. Her destinations are always the same. Chandler Fashion Square, Kohls, Off-Rack, Target, Trader Joes and Sams. I think these businesses are all taking a wait and see approach in regards to the Copa. When they see positive growth trends again, they'll be coming. | | | |
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| | YZRacer
Posts:1580
| | 08/29/2007 8:04 AM |
Alert | | even though i know that many take their shopping dollars elsewhere, myself included, i don't think that a single target or walmart can bring all those dollars to maricopa. a walmart in maricopa wouldn't bring a single penny of my money here, as i don't support that company whatsoever. a target would get maybe $50 a week from me. I'd still have to drive to "town" to do many of my errands, so I'd still probably spend more of my money there as opposed to here. | |
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| | vinny
Posts:599
| | 08/29/2007 12:56 PM |
Alert | | if there was a walmart and a sprouts i would buy groceries in copa. there isn't much else i buy these days. | |
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| | leefamily
Posts:0
| | 08/29/2007 1:45 PM |
Alert | <div class='NTForums_Quote'>Posted By YZRacer on 08/29/2007 8:04 AM
even though i know that many take their shopping dollars elsewhere, myself included, i don't think that a single target or walmart can bring all those dollars to maricopa. a walmart in maricopa wouldn't bring a single penny of my money here, as i don't support that company whatsoever. a target would get maybe $50 a week from me. I'd still have to drive to "town" to do many of my errands, so I'd still probably spend more of my money there as opposed to here. </div>
Is that just because you don't like the stores? Personally, I think - from what I read - that one or the other would be great. I don't know if the town is big enough to support both though. | | | |
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| | maricopacabana
Posts:331
| | 08/29/2007 2:01 PM |
Alert | | It's not a matter of whether or not we will support these stores it is whether or not there are enough of us to support them. Many a minimum before they will build. One of the plaaned malls is waiting for a population closer to 100,000. Chain restaurants won't consider a place until they reach the 40,000 plus. Anything less means a loss of money for them. | | | |
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|  | leehopper
Posts:117
| | 08/29/2007 2:13 PM |
Alert | back in 1982 I moved to Hesperia Calif, there we had Apple Valley, Victorville and Hesperia.
For two years we would drive to either Riverside or San Bernadino do our major shopping. And we had a 40 minute drive.
Its going to take a few years for this area to get big enough to support larger chain stores.
Plus, you have probably 65% percent of Maricopa driving into chandler, tempe, phoenix every day | |
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| | MommaToni
Posts:1045
| | 08/29/2007 2:23 PM |
Alert | I would love a SProuts here! We do Target but not Walmart. I would rather drive few minutes down the street than into "Tukee" or Chandler like I do now.
But there is a TARGET and Sprouts right down Queen Creek road which isn't so bad...except I have to take the 347..haha | |
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| | Azgram01
Posts:272
| | 08/30/2007 6:05 AM |
Alert | I would support a big box store here....even Walmart....(until a Target is built).
I hate driving into town. I would love to spend my $ here in Maricopa as opposed to driving on the 347.
If /when one of those is built, don't you think that more people would move here? (Maybe they would buy up some of these vacant homes.) | | | |
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| | YZRacer
Posts:1580
| | 08/30/2007 9:23 AM |
Alert | <div class='NTForums_Quote'>Posted By leefamily on 08/29/2007 1:45 PM
<div class='NTForums_Quote'>Posted By YZRacer on 08/29/2007 8:04 AM
even though i know that many take their shopping dollars elsewhere, myself included, i don't think that a single target or walmart can bring all those dollars to maricopa. a walmart in maricopa wouldn't bring a single penny of my money here, as i don't support that company whatsoever. a target would get maybe $50 a week from me. I'd still have to drive to "town" to do many of my errands, so I'd still probably spend more of my money there as opposed to here. </div>
Is that just because you don't like the stores? Personally, I think - from what I read - that one or the other would be great. I don't know if the town is big enough to support both though.</div>
I'm all for Target, but I don't spend that much money there. They have some good deals, but for the most part I've found their clothes to be overpriced and don't last long, their grocery items overpriced and I just don't always need things from there. As for Walmart/Sams: I do not shop there at all. We think they are a horrible company and We refuse to give them our money.
Since I have to drive to "town" on the weekends anyway to hit Trader Joes, Costco, Home Depot and to visit with friends/family, most of my $$ will end up getting spent there. Not counting the fact that I work in Chandler and hit the post office on my way to/from work, grab a gallon of milk if we need it then, etc.
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| | hendersona
Posts:385
| | 08/30/2007 1:31 PM |
Alert | | What is everobes problem with Wal-Mart they have the same busness pratices as the rest of the big chain stores (Target, Home deopt ect..) Thier employes have the same benifits as these other stores and get paid the same. there have been some articales out showing one or two bad manger's from these stores but that isn't corperts fault. I think that Wal-mart has gotten a bad rap mostly from the press | | | |
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| | YZRacer
Posts:1580
| | 08/30/2007 2:59 PM |
Alert | they keep their employees (even the full time one) at a level of weekly hours that doesn't give them benefits. they pay less than other retailers. many (at one time I read 85% of their employees who need benefits from a job don't get them and are on WELFARE!). Their products are cheap in quality.
They also treat their vendors poorly (and I know this from 1st hand experience). For example, my worldly popular product (ie Budweiser, CocaCola, etc) is priced at $12/case to the stores. Walmart says "nope, you will give it to us for the price of $10/case and like it, or we won't stock your product".
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| | MommaToni
Posts:1045
| | 08/30/2007 3:45 PM |
Alert | From my experience... IMO... Walmart is always dirtier and quite a bit ghetto.
That's why I hardly shop there...again, just my opinion. | |
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| | hendersona
Posts:385
| | 08/31/2007 8:33 AM |
Alert | I've had friends that have worked for them and gotten great benfit'd. and no they were not in management. And as for thier pay it is the same as pay at any major retail store , They have had problems with parttime employes wanting to have benifits witch they don't offer. MOst anyone that works retail stores know that they quilify for welfare. This isn't Wal-marts fault, if our goverment doesn't want the minim wage to be able to support a family then it should be raised. As for how they treat thier venders they have the pull to ask for lower prices on product this is a free country and the vender is alowed to say NO! If venders thought that thier pratices were unfair than they could all stop selling to them. then they wouldn't have a bussness to run. It seems to me that these vendors are still making money because thier product is still on the shelves.
Wal-mart does service to a lower income braket them some of the higher stores only because thier prices are cheeper not because thier product is any less in quality.
I think that if you shop a more expensive store of a product that you can get cheeper somewhere ealse then your throwing away good money.
you can spend $10.00 on XYJ at an expenvie store or pay $8.00 for XYJ at Wal-mart witch would you do? | | | |
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| | YZRacer
Posts:1580
| | 08/31/2007 8:37 AM |
Alert | I would spend $10 on it for ethical reasons that i mentioned above. i am not going to argue with you, i have my opinion and you have yours.
However, I will say that I am not the only Walmart hater in Maricopa. | |
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| | High i
Posts:113
| | 08/31/2007 9:04 AM |
Alert | I always wonder why people choose to dislike large corporations based on things that they have heard about them. It isn't just Walmart; companies like Microsoft, Proctor & Gamble, and Intel all have this same stigma. The truth is that Walmart doesn't treat their employees worse than other retail companies do. Have you ever wondered why you don't hear these complaints from the 1.3 million people who work there? They do have a large percentage of part time employees working for them, but so does EVERY other retail chain out there. Do you think that Home Depot, Lowes, and Target give all of their store employees full benefits packages. No way. They wouldn't be able to compete if they did. All of these companies keep a significant number of their store employees at or below 35 hours per week so they don't have to pay them benefits. Walmart, like all other retail companies, gives their full time employees benefits packages because they would be in violation of the law if they didn't. It's only the part time (35 hours or less/week) that do not recieve the benefits packages.
Saying that Walmart treats their vendors unfairly is also a stretch. Telling Budwieser and Coke that they won't pay $12 but will pay $10 for a case isn't unethical, it's smart business practice. If they didn't do this type of negotiating they would have to answer to their stockholders. Retail stores charge vendors for "prime" rack space in their stores too. Is this also poor treatment? Any company that is in the position to affect pricing has the obligation to do so. If they didn't their board of directors would get pummeled by their stockholders. The truth is that Walmart passes the money saved in purchase on to their customers, which is why they went from not even being a top 20 retailer to the # 1 in the world on under 20 years. Take a look at the companies profit margins compared to most others out there. For a company that does over $350 Billion in revenue each year, $10-15 billion in net income is pretty low. The only other thing I have to say about this is don't believe what I am telling you either. You can find out for yourself by doing some simple research. Do not beleive everything that you hear about companies based on an email that you got or an article that you see online from some small town newspaper. | | | |
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| | hendersona
Posts:385
| | 08/31/2007 5:04 PM |
Alert | | Thank you for putting this into words that I couldn't | | | |
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| | Urban Cowgirl
Posts:207
| | 09/01/2007 6:13 PM |
Alert | However, I will say that I am not the only Walmart hater in Maricopa.
I'm with you. I think it could be good for Maricopa to have something, even Wal-Mart. But, they won't see $1 of my money. | |
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| | TortosaGuy
Posts:660
| | 09/01/2007 8:58 PM |
Alert | i personally dont care which big box store comes first if ever...anything to keep money in our little town and get more growth out here works for me...
Henderson...as for your comment about the minimum wage....this wage WAS NOT intended to be used to raise a family on....it is an entry level type of wage only...now if someone failed to make the right choices in life for WHATEVER the reason...then they get what they deserve...but constantly raising the minimum wage isnt the answer...getting people educated...and caring to begin with is the solution | |
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| | Colgate
Posts:586
| | 09/01/2007 9:07 PM |
Alert | | I took my daughter to Guy and Gal to get her hair styled and the young girl at the counter said the mayor was in yesterday and he told the girls that they broke ground for the Wal Mart. They plan to have it complete in close to 1yr. I don't think this young girl had a reason to tell a story. I am for big box stores provided they keep their act clean. | |
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