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Subject: What's your opinion on the Maricopa Survey?
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FritzydoodleUser is Offline

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07/09/2007 11:04 PM Alert 
Last week I sent an email to City Hall with my opinion on the survey. To date no one has responded. What a surprise<img src='http://www.85239.com/desktopmodules/ntforums/images/emoticons/shocked.gif' height='20' width='20' border='0' title='Shocked' align='absmiddle'>

To say the least - I'm not happy about receiving the survey in the mail. My reasoning? I'm not considered part of Maricopa! My subdivision - Saddleback Farms unit 1, was 'placed' in Casa Grande's area of influence back when Maricopa was still under incorporation. My zip is 85238, my phone is 568 - but I was disenfranchised by the city I have lived in since 1981. So NOW you want my opinion? Why didn't you ask my opinion when you moved me to Casa Grande? Now I'm important enough to ask what I want?

Well here goes... I don't want you sending me useless documents! If I don't count for everything - don't bother.

How do the rest of you feel about spending YOUR tax dollars needlessly?


GilaGuyUser is Offline

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07/10/2007 4:18 AM Alert 
I was incensed.

For what reason must the City inquire about the size of my "home entertainment system"? Or how many computers I have in my home? Such bizarre priorities this town has sometimes...
chessmanUser is Offline

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07/10/2007 1:44 PM Alert 
God only knows what they are gathering demographic info for now. I wonder if this one is home-grown, or if they had to hire a consultant to conduct the survey. It seems like every other time the council meets they spend the city’s money on another consultant. Hmmmm……..If I had time it would be interesting to put a tally sheet together showing clearly where the money is going.

And, I agree let them survey the nice city folk. The size of my entertainment center is my business. I wonder why they didn’t ask how many horses and chickens we have.

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TrajanbearUser is Offline

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07/10/2007 5:15 PM Alert 
I work in Public Relations and understand the importance of surveys and asking public opinion. However, I did not view this survey has professionally put together nor seeking the appropriate information. The mailed version didn't even leave enough room to write a coherent thought.

I was actually looking forward to providing my opinion on city issues. This survey really disappointed me. I am trying to patient with this city but my patience is running thin. The issues continue to grow and grow and all I ever hear as a response is that it's in the works.

I'm pretty disgusted right now and it take a while to get me to that point.

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Cactus RobUser is Offline

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07/10/2007 8:56 PM Alert 
I completed mine at www.maricopamatters.com and had plenty of room to express my opinion ... not that anyone wants it!! <img src='http://www.85239.com/desktopmodules/ntforums/images/emoticons/biggrin.gif' height='20' width='20' border='0' title='Big Grin' align='absmiddle'>
K8tnazUser is Offline

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07/15/2007 8:36 AM Alert 
If it is being used to define what this town needs I am glad that I did it. If not...oh well. They seemed to ask a lot of questions regarding what kind of electronics the household had...therefore I immediately thought they my be interested in getting some kind of electronics store there and wanted to see if there was a need (that was a bit redundant from my first sentence, sorry).
FritzydoodleUser is Offline

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07/15/2007 9:47 AM Alert 
Do you really think the City of Maricopa with a limited budget and a list of infrastructure needs a mile long should pay for a survey that wants to know so much about your home entertainment needs? If an electronics store wants that information - THEY should pay for it, not the city.

To me, the city's survey didn't seem to focus on what the citizens want for the community's future or to see how the citizens felt about community services. Another waste of the taxpapers money.


GilaGuyUser is Offline

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07/16/2007 4:06 AM Alert 
They seemed quite adept at leaving just enough room to write about what sort of television we use, without leaving enough room for us to dictate the laundry list of practical things we'd like the city to spend it's money on. (Or better yet...without leaving enough room for us to beg the city to slow its spending down, so this city doesn't end up bankrupt in two years.)
HiggsBosonUser is Offline

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07/16/2007 11:09 PM Alert 
If your posting on this forum I guess you have a computer and internet access, why didnt you fill it out online, plenty of room there! (I had plenty of room on the online survey to list some of my complaints.)

The information will be used to market the city of Maricopa to potential employers, developers, businesses, etc. So if you think about it I don't think the questions they asked were out of line. For example the questions about internet and computers, this could indicate possibly a higher skilled workforce.

The main issue is that is isn't exactly a valid random sampling that may provide a more accurate picture of Maricopa.

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GilaGuyUser is Offline

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07/17/2007 4:14 AM Alert 
<div class='NTForums_Quote'>Posted By HiggsBoson on 07/16/2007 11:09 PM

If your posting on this forum I guess you have a computer and internet access, why didnt you fill it out online, plenty of room there! (I had plenty of room on the online survey to list some of my complaints.)

The information will be used to market the city of Maricopa to potential employers, developers, businesses, etc. So if you think about it I don't think the questions they asked were out of line. For example the questions about internet and computers, this could indicate possibly a higher skilled workforce.

The main issue is that is isn't exactly a valid random sampling that may provide a more accurate picture of Maricopa.</div>

Because I turned mine in before the internet option was even available. I could probably go back and do it that way now, except that would only skew the results. I am assuming you have not lived here long enough to have partaken in the first Maricopa survey, which was paper only, and which contained questions that were more pertinent than the nonsense we were asked this time around.

Maricopa can attempt to market itself to businesses all it wants, I see no reason why the size of my "home entertainment system" should play a role. Best Buy and stores of that kind don't give a hoot what size television you have. They come to a market based upon the population and its median income. Questions like "how much does your family bring home each year" and "how many persons live in your house" would accommodate that quite nicely. Delving into my personal life, habits, and decor seems rather excessive.

And of course, you're right about your complaint that this was not a statistically acceptable form of survey. This argument was raised with the first survey (was that two years ago now?), when we were given simple paper ballots and asked to bubble in our answers. We were all left to wonder how many folks thought "oh, what the hell" and bubbled in "I make $200,000 per year or more" and "I have three PhD's" on their surveys. So when the inevitable result came out with the banner headline "Maricopans are Well-Educated, Well-Off," those of us who knew to take it with a grain of salt were left chuckling.

I'm sure each and every one of us can think of one thing that we'd rather the city spend money on. Stuff like this is unnecessary at this point in time.
osgoodsnogUser is Offline

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07/19/2007 1:06 AM Alert 
Just guessing, but I think it will be used to lure retail business as well as larger companies to provide employment to the citizens. It did not seem geared to improve anything about the city, its parks, or public works

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FritzydoodleUser is Offline

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07/19/2007 8:03 AM Alert 
Could be. But if that was the purpose of the survey - shouldn't the Economic Development be doing the survey, not the City of Maricopa?

Parks and Rec made a presentation/request to the City Council on Tuesday to begin the process for a RFP for development of P&R infrastructure such as a new library and sportsplex. Wouldn't it have made more sense for the survey to quiry residents priorities for that project at the same time... instead of paying for another survey?


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