maricopa_jjn
Posts:23
 | | 08/02/2007 10:01 PM |
 Alert | | It looks like Orbitel is going to be raising rates slightly and adding more hd channels. Is anyone privy to what the channels are going to be? No mention of what to expect except a higher bill. | | | |
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alanf
Posts:1390
| | 08/03/2007 8:42 AM |
Alert | | I heard 10 channels (to include National Geographic Channel) on Sept 1. Plus bandwidth increase (substantial) for broadband. Not sure about the price increase. | | | |
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azreplant
Posts:220
| | 08/03/2007 9:59 AM |
Alert | Service/Package Current Price / month New Price / month
ExpandedConnect $23.95 $25.95
DigitalConnect $13.00 $14.00
HBO $11.95 $13.95
Showtime $11.95 $12.95
Cinemax $9.95 $10.95
DVR Equipment Rental $9.95 or $12.95 $10.95
TV all premium package $77.85 $84.85
TV Value $54.00 $60.00
TV & Internet Value Package $79.00 $83.00
Platinum Package $112.00 $116.00
Check www.orbitelcom.com for the .pdf announcement. | |
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Sinbad
Posts:3019
| | 08/03/2007 10:05 AM |
Alert | | DAMN them!!!! | |
Just doing it one day at a time. Change is good and it should be looked upon as an improvment! not a problem.
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MaricopaTrainer
Posts:124
| | 08/03/2007 10:06 AM |
Alert | | Because the $140 plus $15 to the HOA just isn't enough. I mean you should pay top dollar for billing issues, internet and phone service that go down nonstop, and phone service that only seems to work 60% of the time. What a joke! | | | |
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azsouthendzone
Posts:0
| | 08/03/2007 11:14 AM |
Alert | | Orbitel sucks. Hopefully Cox will step in soon and buy them out. That is probably what Orbitel is hoping for anyway. | | | |
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tjtellez45
Posts:86
| | 08/03/2007 12:23 PM |
Alert | Cox has no interest in BUYING out orbitel. because then they would be using Qwest lines.
The bandwidth increase is NOT substantial. Upping their bandwitdh to an UP TO 10 mbps is NOT substantial. And if they cant even support the 6 meg connection how can they support a 10 meg? | | | |
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celltech
Posts:153
| | 08/05/2007 10:40 AM |
Alert | | Censored, what? Orbitel has ther own infrastructure. | |
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TheShermanator
Posts:276
| | 08/05/2007 10:42 AM |
Alert | UGH. I HATE Orbitel. Both DH and I work from home, so its a problem when they consistently drop their Internet. Are there any other choices for RED residents?
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fragile_anatomy
Posts:214
| | 08/07/2007 10:24 AM |
Alert | Actually, Tjtellez45 is correct. Orbitel and qwest are sharing lines in the orbitel areas.
AND as most of the other posts on here have pointed out Orbitel DOES have issues with supporting the up to 6 meg connection they promise so the point of HOW can they support the ten meg is a good question.
Who he is has no bearing on this statement. Actually if you look at his previous posting record, he has been equally informative about all service providers in the area. | | | |
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Jason
Posts:3378
| | 08/09/2007 1:33 PM |
Alert | Posted By fragile_anatomy on 08/07/2007 10:24 AM
Actually, Tjtellez45 is correct. Orbitel and qwest are sharing lines in the orbitel areas.4
Huh? That makes no sense. Orbitel is a cable provider, so there is no way they are "sharing lines" with Qwest. Even if Qwest provided the actual connection to the Internet (and I really doubt that, since Mr. Kirkman said that AT&T does that, and this is verified by the fact that they get AT&T IPs), Cox could very well buy up Orbitel, because they would be buying a substantial in-place infrastructure. | |
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Sinbad
Posts:3019
| | 08/09/2007 1:35 PM |
Alert | Wow.. Jason is so smart!!!!!!
He uses BIG WORDS!!!1 wooooohoooo!!!!
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Just doing it one day at a time. Change is good and it should be looked upon as an improvment! not a problem.
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Jason
Posts:3378
| | 08/09/2007 1:55 PM |
Alert | You call those big words?  | |
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ken
Posts:506
| | 08/11/2007 1:51 AM |
Alert | | Jason is correct, there is no way Orbitel is sharing lines with Qwest, at least on the cable or internet portion, maybe the phone service, but I doubt it. However, as far as their access lines to The Internet... from the info I posted on another thread they are using AT&T. AT&T I can almost guarantee is using Qwest infrastructure to carry their connection into Maricopa. So Qwest does contribute at least a small part to Orbitel. | |
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BobbyBrown3
Posts:51
| | 08/11/2007 10:55 AM |
Alert | Wow, a lot of misinformation here. Anyone who claims to know someone's infastructure better have a "network" understanding of how all it all works. I have qwest but I dont' know if they share the same line as Orbitel does. However, I was told that orbitel has 3-4 ds-3 lines to handle all of their households. To give a better understanding 1 ds-3 line is equal to 25 t-1 lines. 1 t1 line has a maximum speed of 1.5 mbps so the maximum amount of traffic per ds3 line is about 37-38 mbps. Now that would be awsome if that was going to just one household, however if you think about how many households that bandwidth is being shared (cable internet is "shared" in comparison to DSL) by then you can easily see why they "choke down" during high peek times. I don't know how many households have orbitel, even if they have 1000-2000 customers and maximum pipe of about 150 mbps you can easily see how this gets choked down. Especially in today's web 2.0 setup, instead of the average user only using 20-30 kbps while surfing the web, if one wants to watch a TV show on ABC that takes up 700-800 kbps for one person.
All i know is orbital wasn't ready for the growth that occurred, and they used an old business plan about the maximum speed of each user. This is why all of you still on orbital experience slow speeds between 4-8PM | | | |
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ken
Posts:506
| | 08/11/2007 12:13 PM |
Alert | BobbyBrown3... I do have a network infrastructure understanding of how it all works. I work in the Network Operation Center of a Tier 1 service provider, so I have a bit of experience with all this. A DS3 actually has 28 T1s, not 25, and carries 45 Mb/s, not 38. As far as line sharing, it is pretty difficult for a cable company and phone company to line share... one runs Coax and the other runs twisted pair copper. Though I will concede that it is possible they could be sharing fiber into the neighborhood, but I doubt it as this would be a rather expensive build out.
When people say cable is a shared connection and DSL isn't, they are referring to the way each company builds out its network. A cable company runs a main line from the head end to each neighborhood and splits from there, causing everyone on the same street to use the same main line, which has a tendency to cause a bottleneck at the neighborhood level. DSL however, runs a copper twisted pair from your home back to their CO. Either way, your connection eventually becomes shared, but DSL is sharing on a larger scale, so it is easier to add extra bandwidth for a whole town, while cable companies are usually slowed at the individual neighborhoods. | |
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fragile_anatomy
Posts:214
| | 08/12/2007 3:34 PM |
Alert | | They are sharing Fiber. | | | |
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ken
Posts:506
| | 08/12/2007 7:06 PM |
Alert | <div class='NTForums_Quote'>Posted By fragile_anatomy on 08/12/2007 3:34 PM
They are sharing Fiber.</div>
Do you know this for sure? I just can't see Qwest going in together with a company as small as Orbitel. But stranger things have happened. | |
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alanf
Posts:1390
| | 08/13/2007 8:29 AM |
Alert | | Unless I am mistaking (possible), the last time the AT&T fiber bundle got cut(several months ago) both Orbitel and Qwest internet went down(plus all local cell service). Correct me if I'm wrong please. | | | |
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fragile_anatomy
Posts:214
| | 08/13/2007 12:11 PM |
Alert | | You ARE correct alan. And Ken I believe the way it worked was Orbitel went in with Qwest. | | | |
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