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AZGONZO
Posts:11

 | | 08/29/2008 2:20 PM |
Alert | Why are some people still trying to push apartments in Maricopa? Do they have a monetary interest or are they just ignorant of what apartment would do to this city. People need to remember this is not Mesa or Chandler, where they have other cities surrounding them. We are out here by ourselves. Apartments in Maricopa will not be your luxury apartment you see in the other cities up north, because we do not have the commercial industry that was promised 5 years ago, unless you are going to count Wal-Mart. Reality is, if apartments are built in Maricopa the police department will need to expand!
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| | pissedparent
Posts:334

 | | 08/29/2008 2:51 PM |
Alert | Posted By AZGONZO on 08/29/2008 2:20 PM Why are some people still trying to push apartments in Maricopa? Do they have a monetary interest or are they just ignorant of what apartment would do to this city. People need to remember this is not Mesa or Chandler, where they have other cities surrounding them. We are out here by ourselves. Apartments in Maricopa will not be your luxury apartment you see in the other cities up north, because we do not have the commercial industry that was promised 5 years ago, unless you are going to count Wal-Mart. Reality is, if apartments are built in Maricopa the police department will need to expand!
I agree, If they want to rent vs buying, there are plenty of nice homes.
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| | OldTownCopa
Posts:62


 | | 08/29/2008 3:15 PM |
Alert | | Seems like people are comforted by things they used to have in the other cities/towns they've lived in. They want to turn Maricopa into what they're used to, apartments included, without giving it a second thought. There are plenty of homes for sale/rent here, making apartments completely unnecessary. The city has more important and necessary improvements to make first, and whomever asked about apartments at the Town Hall meeting needs to get their priorities straight. | | | |
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| | Java Lover
Posts:158


 | | 08/29/2008 3:49 PM |
Alert | | Unfortunately it goes beyond what we want for Maricopa. It is required that cities allow and set aside, in planning and zoning, areas for "affordable" housing. | | | |
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| | OldTownCopa
Posts:62


 | | 08/29/2008 4:38 PM |
Alert | | How much more "affordable" can housing be in Maricopa? Even if we had any apartments here, it would probably still be cheaper to rent a house. Apartment communities all over the Valley are having problems renting their units; Maricopa wouldn't be any different. No sense in adding to the housing mess by constructing apartments that would go unoccupied. | | | |
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| | Java Lover
Posts:158


 | | 08/29/2008 4:48 PM |
Alert | Posted By OldTownCopa on 08/29/2008 4:38 PM
How much more "affordable" can housing be in Maricopa? Even if we had any apartments here, it would probably still be cheaper to rent a house. Apartment communities all over the Valley are having problems renting their units; Maricopa wouldn't be any different. No sense in adding to the housing mess by constructing apartments that would go unoccupied.
I totally agree. I'm just stating why it is still something that is being talked about.
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| | AzSandSlinger
Posts:743


 | | 08/29/2008 5:44 PM |
Alert | How much more "affordable" can housing be in Maricopa? Even if we had any apartments here, it would probably still be cheaper to rent a house.
How about "affordable" so a single person working at one the local establishments making $8/hr can actually LIVE out here?
do some math... $8/hr x 40hrs/week x 4wks. = $1280 (BEFORE taxes)
the average person rents a place for 1/2 of their monthly income... which = ~$500
tell what person in their right mind wants a 3/2, 1500sqft. home (and the utility bills to go with it) to RENT for $500/month? They will spend more on their utility bills..
Apartments are NECESSARY for this city to grow and prosper.. the sooner you realize it, the better off we will ALL be..
I grow weary of the people who stereotype "renters" much the way people stereotype "apartment dwellers"...
I can name a dozen people who make 2-3 times what most anyone in Maricopa makes.. and THEY live in what you would call those "lowly" apartments...
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| | AZGONZO
Posts:11

 | | 08/29/2008 7:47 PM |
Alert | Where do get apartments are necessary! How much do you think an apartment/utilities cost. What a city needs, are commercial industries that pay a decent wage, but will never happen due to the money hungry ex-councilmembers and major who were to busy filling there pockets. But yet to seem have their hands in the development of this city still. I have lived her 6 years and changes are only begining to be noticed. It is not sterotyping it is reality! If you think this city needs apartments to grow, you need to take off your blinders and look at the whole picture. | | | |
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| | Devil Dog
Posts:419


 | | 08/30/2008 2:14 AM |
Alert | | Just say No to Apartments. | | "Always Moving Forward" | |
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| | NY2Copa
Posts:144


 | | 08/30/2008 7:59 AM |
Alert | Aparentments may be needed ... at some point, but is now the right time? Of course people who work in the Copa and don't make alot of $$$ need affordable housing, but $500 a month? That will bring a level of clientele (like it or not, I will only ever speak the truth and sometimes it hurts) that may not be what Maricopa needs right now. We have an excess of empties already and those need to be absorbed. Then we need to bring in business, real business. We need to attract Intel-like employers, Motorola, Honeywell, manufacturers (we have the room!) then as we expand and have the tax base ... because remember renters don't pay property tax and a multi family dwelling will bring in more people who don't contribute to the tax base, the landlordwill pay a property tax, but not as much as all those renting families could bring in if they owned respectively. Once Maricopa becomes something then it may be necessary, but remember, once we have become that kind of city, apartments won't cost $500.00, they'll be more expensive because our location will be worth more ... so although apartments may be needed at some point, I'm not convinced now is the time. | | | |
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| | cholo bandito
Posts:828

 | | 08/30/2008 8:12 AM |
Alert | We have Section 8. How can apartments make it any worse? | |
I plan on living forever, so far so good. Cigarettes are stupid. If you are going to smoke something, it might as well get you high.
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| | twostep23
Posts:1712


 | | 08/30/2008 8:12 AM |
Alert | If you look at the entire plot planned for Walmart area there are apartments on that already. I've never heard anything as to when they will be building them but it will help tremendously. The average going rate for rent here in Maricopa is about 800.00 (not scientific just looking in the paper and craigslist). And like it was mentioned before being working for almost nothing need to have a place to afford. There is nothing wrong with apartment dwellers. As mentioned I know people that make tons of money and could buy a house but they chose to live in apartments. There are many reason they do that. I am one of them.....I lived in an apartment for 11 years and did it mainly because I didn't want to be responsible for the upkeep. I didn't have the time. It isn't right to stereotype people or situations. Lower rent will also help people get on their feet instead of ending up homeless somewhere. There are pros and cons for everything and this issue of apartments is no different. Just because you have an apartment doesn't mean that you have increased crime and again that is a stereotype that just isn't right. | | Senior Member Posts: 4625 Joined: Feb 2006 | |
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| | twostep23
Posts:1712


 | | 08/30/2008 8:15 AM |
Alert | Posted By cholo bandito on 08/30/2008 8:12 AM We have Section 8. How can apartments make it any worse? Every city has section 8 including Malibu and Bevelery Hills. | | Senior Member Posts: 4625 Joined: Feb 2006 | |
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| | cholo bandito
Posts:828

 | | 08/30/2008 8:20 AM |
Alert | Posted By twostep23 on 08/30/2008 8:15 AM Posted By cholo bandito on 08/30/2008 8:12 AM We have Section 8. How can apartments make it any worse? Every city has section 8 including Malibu and Bevelery Hills.
And they have apartments too. | |
I plan on living forever, so far so good. Cigarettes are stupid. If you are going to smoke something, it might as well get you high.
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| | hastings1066
Posts:1004


 | | 08/30/2008 1:48 PM |
Alert | Posted By twostep23 on 08/30/2008 8:12 AM If you look at the entire plot planned for Walmart area there are apartments on that already. I've never heard anything as to when they will be building them but it will help tremendously. The average going rate for rent here in Maricopa is about 800.00 (not scientific just looking in the paper and craigslist). And like it was mentioned before being working for almost nothing need to have a place to afford. There is nothing wrong with apartment dwellers. As mentioned I know people that make tons of money and could buy a house but they chose to live in apartments. There are many reason they do that. I am one of them.....I lived in an apartment for 11 years and did it mainly because I didn't want to be responsible for the upkeep. I didn't have the time. It isn't right to stereotype people or situations. Lower rent will also help people get on their feet instead of ending up homeless somewhere. There are pros and cons for everything and this issue of apartments is no different. Just because you have an apartment doesn't mean that you have increased crime and again that is a stereotype that just isn't right. Having lived and worked in towns with low rent apartment complexes I can assure you that they were a constant problem for the police and neighborers. Often, stereotypes become stereotypes because they are accurate. One town allowed low cost rentals to be built in the hope that it would provide housing for limited income elderly. The result was that the state moved in muti-generational welfare families from the nearest city. Result, massive drug, crime, property damage, and school disruption problems.Big city problems were imposed on a small town. Not to mention a big increase in demand for local services that the taxpayers had to provide. At least with the Section 8s we have now, they are limited in number and not all in the same area. Build low cost apartments and we will be faced with in influx of people, many (not all - for the politically correct crowd) without the work ethic or homeowner values. A town can absorb a limited number of such people and still maintain it's character, but once you reach a critical mass, things start to go to (bad word). | | | |
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| | maricopamoon
Posts:45

 | | 08/30/2008 6:01 PM |
Alert | I completely agree that apartments in Maricopa will become a problem. Why would anyone even want to rent an apartment all the way out here? Once you factor in drive times and gas money...a person could surely find an apartment closer into "civilization," for the same cost as all that, don't you think? The ONLY reason I live out here is because I can own a nice home. Otherwise, forget it! I fear that any apartments way the heck out here will end up being section 8 type rentals because I honestly do not think they can fill them up without it. Maricopa already has enough trouble, crime, gang crap, domestic calls etc...we do not need more low income rentals. If anybody who owns a home here ever wants their property values to increase, then having a city full of low income rentals and housing is not going to attract the buyers we need. What we need in Maricopa is a strong force of buyers who are intersted in buying the homes that are already available, can afford the homes they buy, take pride in their homes and who are invested in making Maricopa a SAFE place to live and raise a family. | | | |
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| | micheledenver
Posts:16

 | | 08/30/2008 7:53 PM |
Alert | | I have heard that the city has rezoned the apartment site and it was passed so no apartments are going up near Walmart. | | | |
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| | mariJOEpa
Posts:23

 | | 08/31/2008 12:25 PM |
Alert | | I'm sure there will be a market for apartments in the future. I don't think it would make sense to build any at this point though. Like a couple of the other posters on here, I too lived in apartments for years before I bought my home in Maricopa. I enjoyed apartment life because I was close to work and school, stores, and the freeway. In my first apartment, I didn't even have to drive as I was close to the busline. Since Maricopa has few stores, lacks a freeway or even its own freeway exit, and its largest employers are an Indian casino and a grocery store.....I seriously doubt anyone would be interested in renting an apartment out here. Once we get a college in town, more employers, and lose our reputation as being "out in the boonies" the demand for apartments will be there. My gut feeling is that that will be 7-10 years away though. | | | |
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| | ms_attitude
Posts:34


 | | 08/31/2008 7:23 PM |
Alert | | Anyone that works in Maricopa must already live here so I don't think they will need an apartment. I don't think apartments would be a good idea. Just something else to bring in people that we don't need in this town. | | | |
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| | drummer72
Posts:3886


 | | 08/31/2008 10:07 PM |
Alert | I think alot of you are jumping the gun a little bit. Have we even seen some blue prints/scetches of what these apartments MIGHT look like? I don't know about you guys, but I've seen some pretty nice apartment complexes around the Tempe/Chandler/Queen Creek areas.
It's also moronic for alot of you to assume that these renters will bring crime to Maricopa.
Wake up call...this isn't Mayberry.
Lastly, my wife and I were renters for a while, before we could get a home. Give these people a chance, without labeling them "no good for maricopa". | | "Everything for everyone and nothing for ourselves" | |
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