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jeeptj02User is Offline

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05/13/2008 3:31 AM Alert 

Well i had a friend tell me today that hacienda is going under which i dont doubt ive done some searching on the internet and found some thing suggesting it. What is really distrubing is the fact that if i go to there website it no longer list catalina at alterra and i havent seen any sales people in the office latley so i guess that just really helped my resale since half the subdivision is complete. Anyone else have any info on this?

Smokin AceUser is Offline

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05/13/2008 9:35 AM Alert 

I went down to the Altera homes this weekend and there is a sign in both Models offices saying they are temp. closed. I thought they didn't have the staff due to cut back or something. Intresting where did you see things on the net that lead you to believe they are going under?


Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. ~Lord Acton
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05/14/2008 10:02 AM Alert 
From what I know, Hacienda is only keeping 2 of their sales offices open. There is one in Gilbert and one on the west side of town. I believe all Maricopa locations will be closing. One of my buddies sells for Hacienda in Gilbert and he said they are down to 5 sales people in the entire company (3 in Gilbert and 2 on the west side). BofA was the investor for most of their properties and BofA is shutting them down in the communities they were financing. Sucks
Smokin AceUser is Offline

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05/14/2008 10:16 AM Alert 

From the gold rush to the great depression all in a few months...... What next?


Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. ~Lord Acton
jeeptj02User is Offline

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05/14/2008 4:24 PM Alert 
yeah its preaty sad when the house down the street from me is bank owned and selling for 150 which is half of what i paid for mine. And then after having my house apraised for a refi and finding out what it was worth its no wonder why people are walking away from there house i sure dont want to stay in maricopa for the next 15 years to wait for my house to come back up to its orignal selling price.
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05/14/2008 10:11 PM Alert 

We all signed  loan docs.So we all have to deal with it

BOBUser is Offline

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05/15/2008 1:41 AM Alert 

I heard some noise about them flirting with selling late last year!
I was fortunate to have gotten in before the "GOLD RUSH" but all this is still somewhat troubling news!

http://www.bigbuilderonline.com/industry-news.asp?sectionID=0&articleID=596366

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05/15/2008 8:05 AM Alert 
Posted By siriusmark on 05/14/2008 10:11 PM

We all signed  loan docs.So we all have to deal with it

 

So very true. Lets hope the market gets going again so we don't have to wait 15 years to make money on our houses. Then again no one has the cyrstal ball that shows the future...... do they?


Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. ~Lord Acton
theonegodUser is Offline

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05/15/2008 11:02 AM Alert 
I bought my house to live in it. Not to make money. I still enjoy living in it so I could care less about the housing market.
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05/15/2008 11:37 AM Alert 
Posted By theonegod on 05/15/2008 11:02 AM
I bought my house to live in it. Not to make money. I still enjoy living in it so I could care less about the housing market.

 

I bought my house to live in as well. I am just saying you hope a large investment like a house will make you money in the long run rather then lose you money (long run meaning years). I am not referring to those who buy as investments to flip them short term and make money. I just find it sad that people bought and a year later the house is work 1/2 what you bought it for.  

Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. ~Lord Acton
jeeptj02User is Offline

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05/15/2008 12:03 PM Alert 
I always laugh when people say i brought my house to live in! usually that means they lost just as much or more money in there house then most HAHA but also what a load of crap come on! i mean a house is not a car your not supposed to lose 10 grand as soon as you get the keys to your house! in a good market the house will apperciate slowly with time. But this is a crapy market and crapy economy so we all just have to ride out the storm. I purchase mine thinking that in 5 years i will be able to move to the tukee or chandler but since the market crashed i have to wait longer which also sucks becuase the longer i wait the crapy this town seems to get. low house prices dont exactly attract the best people. im just glad im not living in murder meadows i mean maricopa meadows lol
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05/15/2008 12:16 PM Alert 

I bought my house to live in. I've said that since I bought it. I said it when it "went up" 100k within a year. I say that now when it would probably sell for less than I paid for it. I have always thought of it as an expense. It was money I was planning on spending/losing all along. Once I made the decision to buy, it would be gone. The only question was how soon I could pay it off to keep my TOTAL cost down(136k to go).

The investment I made was in the community for my family. The return I get from that is well beyond any monetary gains. If the " value" of the dirt,wood,stucco, etc keeps going down, oh well. As soon as I get to zero balance due, I will never have to worry about being "upside down". I'm not upside down now, so that isn't even an issue.

I don't own a Hacienda, but if it weren't for the Hacienda home I saw in Avondale, I wouldn't have come to Maricopa.


My answer WAS "NO" to Q#5 and Q#1.
Proverbs 22:7
The rich ruleth over the poor and the borrower is servant to the lender.
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05/15/2008 12:17 PM Alert 
Posted By jeeptj02 on 05/15/2008 12:03 PM
"i mean a house is not a car your not supposed to lose 10 grand as soon as you get the keys to your house! in a good market the house will apperciate slowly with time."  "low house prices dont exactly attract the best people. im just glad im not living in murder meadows i mean maricopa meadows lol"



LOL .... I have to agree I bought my house to live in it but I also want it to make money for me.  I (knock on wood) am still even on my house. The value has not gotten worse but not any better either. "im just glad im not living in murder meadows i mean maricopa meadows" same here 


Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. ~Lord Acton
vinnyUser is Offline

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05/15/2008 3:11 PM Alert 
is it permissable under the HOA for the builders to sell undeveloped lots?

Follow your bliss. Happiness is a conscious decision
BOBUser is Offline

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05/16/2008 4:56 AM Alert 

What will happen is that a new builder will buy Hacienda's properties ( the remaining lots) and eventually finish the neighborhood.

Hopefully the new builder will buy Hacienda the company and continue to build the same homes on the remaining lots otherwise you will have completely different homes in the area. Although that is still much better than empty lots. 

Also I have yet to see our HOA have any real effect on those who wish to flat out ignore the HOA rules!

Smokin AceUser is Offline

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05/16/2008 7:05 AM Alert 
"Also I have yet to see our HOA have any real effect on those who wish to flat out ignore the HOA rules!"


That is everywhere... No one can seem to escape this issue no matter where you live. I read through some forums (as well as be active in them) regarding this issue. Is it that people don't care what the neighborhood looks like anymore or is it me being me... LOL




Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. ~Lord Acton
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05/16/2008 7:59 AM Alert 
Posted By jeeptj02 on 05/15/2008 12:03 PM
I always laugh when people say i brought my house to live in! usually that means they lost just as much or more money in there house then most HAHA but also what a load of crap come on! i mean a house is not a car your not supposed to lose 10 grand as soon as you get the keys to your house! in a good market the house will apperciate slowly with time. But this is a crapy market and crapy economy so we all just have to ride out the storm. I purchase mine thinking that in 5 years i will be able to move to the tukee or chandler but since the market crashed i have to wait longer which also sucks becuase the longer i wait the crapy this town seems to get. low house prices dont exactly attract the best people. im just glad im not living in murder meadows i mean maricopa meadows lol

 

 

Sorry but this wasn't logical thinking.  People that had this same view as you didn't spend a lot of time researching the market and how it actually works.  If the houses in Maricopa double in value the houses in Ahwatukee will double if not more.

If you cannot afford Ahwatukee right now you are not going to be able to afford it just based on your house going up in value. You better have other investments or have significant income increases as well.  Look at the market right now. Ahwatukee and West Chandler have not been impacted anywhere close to how Maricopa and the other outskirt areas have been. People are not leaving those areas so the houses retain their value.

Not to be mean- but you fell into the trap setup by realators and builders.


"The jouney of life is as much in oneself' as the roads one travels"


WompusUser is Offline

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05/16/2008 11:05 AM Alert 
As for the Murder Meadows comment, please show me one development in Maricopa where a police event hasn't happened. Home invasion in Acacia Crossing, Murder in Rancho, child abduction in Rancho, gang fights in Rancho, want me to go on?

As for a home builder going under, is anyone really that surprised? How much inventory do they have and how many employees?
azcopaUser is Offline

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05/16/2008 11:19 AM Alert 
Show me a community anywhere in AZ, or the country for that matter that hasn't had a police event.
Smokin AceUser is Offline

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05/16/2008 1:52 PM Alert 
Where there are people there is always going to be a problem.

Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. ~Lord Acton
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