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Eric the Red
Posts:385


 | | 05/04/2008 7:34 PM |
Alert | | Guess I'll keep shopping at Ace. | |
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| | drummer72
Posts:2610


 | | 05/04/2008 8:02 PM |
Alert | Posted By MaricopaTrainer on 05/04/2008 10:32 AM I know for us the reasons are many. We were lied to and misled on many occasions about SO many things. No amount of research could've helped us determine that at the time. Had we known then what we know now we would've happily continued living in an apartment. Our debt would be completely paid off and we'd have money in the bank. Instead we're in debt up to our ears paying on a house that isn't near worth what our mortgage is for and there are no jobs here. The list is really long...but the main thing is being lied to by so many people has left us angry, bitter and frustrated. I agree with 100%. | | Give me something good to die for,to make it beautiful to live. | |
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| | LeonPotter
Posts:313

 | | 05/05/2008 6:47 AM |
Alert | Posted By MaricopaTrainer on 05/04/2008 3:21 PM Posted By LeonPotter on 05/04/2008 2:56 PM Posted By MaricopaTrainer on 05/04/2008 10:32 AM I know for us the reasons are many. We were lied to and misled on many occasions about SO many things. No amount of research could've helped us determine that at the time. Had we known then what we know now we would've happily continued living in an apartment. Our debt would be completely paid off and we'd have money in the bank. Instead we're in debt up to our ears paying on a house that isn't near worth what our mortgage is for and there are no jobs here. The list is really long...but the main thing is being lied to by so many people has left us angry, bitter and frustrated.
Forgive me for soundling like I'm kicking while you"re down, but I'm an advocate on basing decisions on one's own financial situation not on what the "future holds".
I believe in making financial situations based on being in the position financial strength from the get go. If things go south, there is a cushion. If things do come to fruition, it's all gravy. I don't believe in letting "outside forces" dictate what I do or don't do. There weren't guns at people's heads at the closings. I understand the anger, bitterness, and frustration. But, those feelings don't do anything to turn back the clock nor do they change things for the future.All we have is now and we can do the best we can to improve financial lives one step at a time. I would appreciate you not personally bestowing your sage widsom on me. You have no idea who I am personally, what my beliefs are, what I was told, what was in writing, what my financial situation is or otherwise. What you read in a short snippet of a post doesn't give you enough information about me to act as if you know me well enough to give advice. I agree with some of the others on here. I am and do continue to move on...and out of Maricopa when possible. Why would you ask forgiveness for kicking someone while their down and then proceed to kick them while their down? Hmmm. You're absolutely right that I don't know anything about you. The advice I give would be to anyone to work from a position of strength... a position of empowerment instead of from a position of weakness which leads to victimhood. So please don't take it personally. I would give the same advice to anyone going into a financial decision; Be it a complete stranger or my best friend. In fact, I always have. I have done this well before I saw your little snippet of a post. It looked like you missed it, but the reason I asked for forgiveness before I typed the rest of my post was because I thought I might come across in a negative way. The last thing I wanted for you to do was to take it as a personal attack. However, I wanted to be straight forward and honest. You deserve that. It seems like you feel you didn't get that before. I truly wish you all the best. For the time being, we live in the same city. I hope you can find it in your heart to enjoy it while your here. Life is too short to hold on to negative feelings. | | You may remember this from the original 85239:
Proverbs 22:7
The rich ruleth over the poor and the borrower is servant to the lender.
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| | maricopacabana
Posts:317


 | | 05/05/2008 6:49 AM |
Alert | Posted By MaricopaTrainer on 05/03/2008 8:10 PM Posted By drummer72 on 05/03/2008 8:00 PM
I'll wear it out.
Wish I could help you with buying your house.
But, I can't wait until the market improves.
First thing I'll do is put a FOR SALE sign up... Same here. I don't even dare try to sell right now. I'm not about to eat $100K. But as soon as I can get what I paid..I'm gone!
Consider that when you can get what you paid things may be bettere. The market is tough everywhere. Once the economy turns the development will be back. Much of what was projected was not meant to mislead people, it just didn't anticipate the economic downturn. | | | |
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| | The Family Guy
Posts:53


 | | 05/05/2008 9:17 AM |
Alert | I would really like to hear some of the lies that people were told. I do not recall anyone telling me lies. I do recall hearing that Maricopa was a growing city and that there were several businesses that would be opening here soon. I am smart enough to understand that any business decision is subject to change and usually influenced by the state of the economy. A business is not going to open if there aren't enough residents to support it. It seems that all I hear lately is people either leaving Maricopa or wanting to leave Maricopa. Why? Because you cant afford your home? Didnt you know that you were in an ARM? Oh, you thought you could re-fi? Well, I guess that was a lie huh? I was OFFERED that same deal and decided against it. I based my decision on the fact that the housing market was starting to decline and I knew that saving some money now could certainly mean that disaster later. How did I know that? Well I did my research before I agreed to my loan. I know, some of you will say that it was the only way you could get the loan. Well then I say maybe you shouldnt have been buying until you could afford. I think the only lies that were the ones that you told to yourself. Renting is always an option.
So now everyone wants to leave. Doesnt this mean that our town will not grow and the business will not come? Seems to me that if everyone thinks back to the reasons you liked Maricopa enough to mortgage your futures you will realize that we will get there- it just wont happen overnight.
For those of you that believe that you were lied to and betrayed and cannot see things for what they are, well i say good luck. Maricopa will be just fine without you.
I apologize if this seems harsh, my intentions are not to put anyone down, I am just so tired of hearing people complain and blame others for their own decisions. | | | |
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| | LeonPotter
Posts:313

 | | 05/05/2008 9:30 AM |
Alert | I agree with Family guy except for for the part about the ARM. I used an ARM to by the house because it was the least expensive option. I later refi'd to another ARM because the terms offered were better and it didn't cost anything to do it(it's a 20 year mortgage). I still have the refi'd ARM. If things hold, the rate will drop again. The anniversary day is at the end of July.(come on 10 year treasury!!) I know the post wasn't directed at me. I understand what was meant by it. What was posted is what I have witnessed, too. I just wanted to put it out there that have an ARM. | | You may remember this from the original 85239:
Proverbs 22:7
The rich ruleth over the poor and the borrower is servant to the lender.
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| | jeffrey james
Posts:30

 | | 05/05/2008 8:35 PM |
Alert | | Home Depot isn't coming? NOOOOoooooooooooo............................. | | | |
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| | Krzy
Posts:26

 | | 05/07/2008 7:26 AM |
Alert | By the time home prices come back to where they were for most of you, Maricopa will probably be a place you want to be. Purchasing a home isn't supposed to be a short term investment. Just because your house is worth less than you originally paid for it doesn't mean its going to stay that way. It also doesn't mean its not a nice house. If you financed 100% on an ARM that's about to explode, then you will likely get stuck paying the higher rate since you can't appraise for the value. It was a risk that you signed up for and you have nobody to blame but yourself. I'm down about 40k, but the house I sold to move here is down over 90k. I guess that puts me ahead.
As for the Home Depot, here's some more fuel to add to your speculation: http://www.walletpop.com/2008/05/05/home-depot-closing-15-stores/.
Home Depot said it will continue with plans to open 36 stores that are already under development. Another 50 stores were "in the pipeline," but those plans are being scrapped for now. Consider this a move to weed out the bad stores, and open ones that are expected to do better.
The closings are mostly in Wisconsin, Indiana, New Jersey, and Ohio.
Perhaps since we're not in the 'mostly' list we may actually see this come to fruition. Until we hear an 'official decision' I'm not going to let this bother me.
Good Luck
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| | Lano
Posts:260


 | | 05/11/2008 7:23 PM |
Alert | Posted By The Family Guy on 05/05/2008 9:17 AM
I would really like to hear some of the lies that people were told. I do not recall anyone telling me lies. I do recall hearing that Maricopa was a growing city and that there were several businesses that would be opening here soon. I am smart enough to understand that any business decision is subject to change and usually influenced by the state of the economy. A business is not going to open if there aren't enough residents to support it. It seems that all I hear lately is people either leaving Maricopa or wanting to leave Maricopa. Why? Because you cant afford your home? Didnt you know that you were in an ARM? Oh, you thought you could re-fi? Well, I guess that was a lie huh? I was OFFERED that same deal and decided against it. I based my decision on the fact that the housing market was starting to decline and I knew that saving some money now could certainly mean that disaster later. How did I know that? Well I did my research before I agreed to my loan. I know, some of you will say that it was the only way you could get the loan. Well then I say maybe you shouldnt have been buying until you could afford. I think the only lies that were the ones that you told to yourself. Renting is always an option.
So now everyone wants to leave. Family Guy..... I agree with your take. Another group of people are also leaving because they didn't anticipate the growth down here would come to a complete halt. 5 years was ok, but 10-15 for decent infrastructure and better access to Phoenix is just not worth it for a lot of people. No blame to throw around here, we all took a chance on this town without knowing how things would pan out. I'm sure the ones who wait it out will be rewarded with a great place to live. Too many good people have the city's best interest at heart. But they'll be a lot of pain to absorb while things catch up. | | | |
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| | KatieS3248
Posts:9

 | | 05/14/2008 5:41 PM |
Alert | | I'm new to maricopa, I bought and moved into my home just recently. I moved out here knowing there are several conveniences I would not have. So I allow for that, I work in Mesa, so I take a lunch hour and hit walmart, or home depot. Or stop on my way home. My husband and I waited 7 years to buy a house because we couldn't afford it and I refused to use anything but a 30/fixed because I wanted the stability. I'm ecstatic we did. To us, living further out without the comforts of a 5 minute drive to anything, was and still is worth it to have our own home. We fully feel that giving up the day and age of "gimmie now" was worth it to build our future. There isn't a town in this country that was built with the "gimmie now" attitude, that's not how things were made. I may be simple, and maybe it's the fact that I'm still new but, I'm thankful I have a home that's mine. And I can stay there as long as I want. Which we intend to be a long time. | | Katie | |
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| | asugrl
Posts:168

 | | 05/14/2008 11:55 PM |
Alert | Posted By KatieS3248 on 05/14/2008 5:41 PM
I'm new to maricopa, I bought and moved into my home just recently. I moved out here knowing there are several conveniences I would not have. So I allow for that, I work in Mesa, so I take a lunch hour and hit walmart, or home depot. Or stop on my way home. My husband and I waited 7 years to buy a house because we couldn't afford it and I refused to use anything but a 30/fixed because I wanted the stability. I'm ecstatic we did. To us, living further out without the comforts of a 5 minute drive to anything, was and still is worth it to have our own home. We fully feel that giving up the day and age of "gimmie now" was worth it to build our future. There isn't a town in this country that was built with the "gimmie now" attitude, that's not how things were made. I may be simple, and maybe it's the fact that I'm still new but, I'm thankful I have a home that's mine. And I can stay there as long as I want. Which we intend to be a long time. I agree. I love my home, and I like Maricopa. I didn't buy a home only to give up and sell it 2 years later. We plan on staying here for at least 5 years, and if we continue to love it, I would like to move further into Maricopa and own more land. We were offered an interest-only loan in Casa Grande a year ago, but rejected it and waited until we could get a 30-year fixed. I'm so glad we did.  | | | |
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| | theonegod
Posts:15

 | | 05/15/2008 11:27 AM |
Alert | I bought 6 months ago. My home is worth more today then when I bought it. I bought it with a fixed 30 year 5.25% rate. I moved here from San Diego where my RENT on a 1100 square foot home was $400 a month higher then what I am paying now on a mortgage on a 2644 square foot home. I did not buy this house to worry about its value in 2 or 5 years. I bought this house to live in and maybe... maybe I will look at its value in 10+ years if I feel like moving. Amenaties? The day a 16 mile drive to Chandler becomes a real hassle is the day I am officially to lazy to go on living. Some of you feel lied to? Lied to about what? Prediction of the future that are subject to economic change? DO you people really think this housing problem is limited to just this town? We just feel it more becuase we were in a period of growth when it happened. All of you complaining about Maricopa sound like short term gold diggers that had to real intention of making Maricopa your home in the first place. If your homes value after only 2-5 years gives you reason to want to leave town then I consider you no better then any other "investor" and not a true resident of the town. | | | |
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| | AZnitro
Posts:14

 | | 05/16/2008 8:50 PM |
Alert | | right on I am getting sick of all these people crying. I love it here and got a great deal on my house and I am not going anywhere. do you actually think that they would do all that work and spend all that money without a commitment from HD or walmart??? | | | |
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| | LeonPotter
Posts:313

 | | 05/16/2008 10:00 PM |
Alert | Posted By theonegod on 05/15/2008 11:27 AM I bought 6 months ago. My home is worth more today then when I bought it. I bought it with a fixed 30 year 5.25% rate. I moved here from San Diego where my RENT on a 1100 square foot home was $400 a month higher then what I am paying now on a mortgage on a 2644 square foot home. Welcome to Maricopa. I lived in the San Diego area for about 14 years. I'm just curious about your loan. If I may ask, was the 5.25% the APR? If it is, that is great!!. The timing of the rate seems to not include any origination fees and/or points. Thanks | | You may remember this from the original 85239:
Proverbs 22:7
The rich ruleth over the poor and the borrower is servant to the lender.
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