schokolotti
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 | | 11/13/2007 11:14 AM |
 Alert | Sinbad, I'm curious why it is ok for you to pay attention to some roadway signs, the speed limit, but not others, "Slow traffic keep right?" The sign does not say Slow traffic, unless you are going the speed limit. It is the one on the road going slower than the others.
Sometimes you have to let people move on past you for you to be safer in all honesty. I've traveled across country several times and have seen people going insane speeds "in my opinion," but would gladly let them by me so that I am not involved in any accidents at the speeds they are going. It is not for me to regulate their speed in any way shape or form, and quite frankly, neither should you be trying to do so. I worry for your safety and those who are forced to drive behind you or pass you to the right. | | | |
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Jason
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| | 11/13/2007 11:36 AM |
Alert | This my friend proves my point.... You are not making a vaild arguement and you had to pull out some crap about racing. We aren't talking about Racing... so what the heck is this crap.
The argument is valid if you'd just read. I even bolded the section so you wouldn't have to spend time looking for it. If you block someone in, you are preventing passing and therefore racing. The law says it. If you can't see that, maybe you shouldn't have a license.
Again you fail to understand that speedometers are not 100% accurate. You may actually be going under the limit and people going at the limit may catch up to you..
If you are speeding at 10-20 over the limit.. YOU ARE JUST AS BAD AS I AM. even worse because you are endangering everyone around you. High Speeds KILL my firend.. how many death do you need to read about to get it through your Thick Skulls!
You know what. I'm going to back off of this argument. Your reasoning is wholly illogical, because the law does not say what you're saying at all. It makes zero exceptions. If you prevent another car from passing, you are racing. Period, end of story. Somehow though you've managed to make an infraction out to worse than a Class 1 Misdemeanor.
Go ahead, be a criminal. Cause road rage. I don't care. Just know that someone may die due to your antics.
65 to 55 to 45... In retrospec.
After the Casa Blanca intersection and before the 55 sign, what speed were you going?
Straight off the cover story! Speed Kills
That's it, keep beating that dead horse because I agreed. Notice the story doesn't say if he was going higher than the posted limit... | |
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Sinbad
Posts:3058
| | 11/13/2007 11:56 AM |
Alert | Schokolotti,
I am also curious why you would not want others to follow the speeding laws. I will make a deal with you speeders out there.. I will keep Right when possible, if you follow the POSTED SPEED LIMIT!!!!!!
It's a no brainer people. DON'T SPEED and you won't have to worry about slower traffic doing the speed limit in the left lane. I am 100% sure that "Slower traffic keep right" means people that aren't going the speed limit to stay to the right.
Just check all of you out on here arguing that it's ok to speed in the left lane. Well.. It's not OK!
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Just doing it one day at a time. Change is good and it should be looked upon as an improvment! not a problem.
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Sinbad
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| | 11/13/2007 12:08 PM |
Alert | Again you fail to understand that speedometers are not 100% accurate. You may actually be going under the limit and people going at the limit may catch up to you..
Yeah right.. Doesn't hold water my friend. If anything, you would be the one RACING to get home or RACING to get to work.... Not I. I don't care how you slice this Speedometer accurate statement...
After the Casa Blanca intersection and before the 55 sign, what speed were you going?
The speed limit.
If I am in the left lane and you catch me when I am doing the speed limit, YOU ARE SPEEDING!!
Jason and fans,
Are you SPEEDERS? Just admit that you Speed all of the time forcing people doing the speed limit out of the left lane so you can do 80 mph!... ADMIT IT!!!
With all of the accidents out on the 347, I am suprised that you people don't get it.
That's it, keep beating that dead horse because I agreed. Notice the story doesn't say if he was going higher than the posted limit...
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Jason
Posts:3378
| | 11/13/2007 12:24 PM |
Alert | The speed limit.
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badastro
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| | 11/13/2007 12:38 PM |
Alert | | Maybe we should put this into a little perspective. Let's think in terms of what you CAN control and what you CAN'T control. You CAN'T control the fact that many of us drive in excess of 65 MPH on the 347. You CAN however control your actions behind the wheel. If you want to increase the safety of yourself and others on the road, don't obstruct traffic if you are driving slower than the flow of traffic in the left lane, and move into the right lane. Is that so difficult? Apparently so... | | | |
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CatMan
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| | 11/14/2007 6:57 AM |
Alert | | Bottom line...Lead, follow, or get the heck out of the way!!!! | |
I thought it was great that I seemed to be getting more patience with age...turns out I just don't give a darn. | |
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Silence
Posts:0
| | 11/14/2007 7:00 AM |
Alert | | move it milk it or build a fence around it | | | |
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YZRacer
Posts:1653
| | 11/14/2007 7:49 AM |
Alert | so i have a question. and i'm serious, this happened and I am curious to see how some of the "arguers" answer
last night while i was driving home from work, going 65-70 in the right lane. Someone in big truck came up behind me real fast (I saw him coming in my rearview). He got right up to my bumper. Now, the left lane was busy, but not jam packed, and it was moving quicker than I was. My guess is that he couldn't get over to that one fast enough. He rode my tail like that for about a mile, then whipped around me and flipped me off.
So my question is: am I supposed to pull off to the shoulder to let this speeder pass? Or do I hold my own, going the speed limit in the right lane like I'm supposed to? Or do I move to the left to let him pass me on the right?
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geewiz
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| | 11/14/2007 9:13 AM |
Alert | | from reading all the post on this subject I totally agree with you sinbad. The signs never state what slower is. If those going over the speed limit. As far as impeding traffic. Using physics if a clog ( a vehicle in this case ) causes a restriction in the flow the flow is that of the clog. Another point to ponder. if I am to return back to the right lane when safe to do so the safe distance to travel behind another vehicle is about 3 car lenghts. By the time I get 3 car leghts in front of the car I just passed all you nimrods speeding think they have to invade that 3 car lenghts i'm waiting to get making it never safe for me to return to the right lane. | |
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Jason
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| | 11/14/2007 9:40 AM |
Alert | from reading all the post on this subject I totally agree with you sinbad. The signs never state what slower is.
So I suppose I can change lanes right into other cars because there is no sign saying I can't? | |
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Jason
Posts:3378
| | 11/14/2007 9:41 AM |
Alert | So my question is: am I supposed to pull off to the shoulder to let this speeder pass? Or do I hold my own, going the speed limit in the right lane like I'm supposed to? Or do I move to the left to let him pass me on the right?
You're supposed to just stay where you are. | |
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stinkerbell2
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| | 11/14/2007 10:06 AM |
Alert | | Ya know I find this thread rather comical...for a number of reasons. It will not matter what a sign says in regards to the slower traffic...there are some of you who think that sign has been there this entire time and it hasnt! Plus you guys dont pay attention to the OTHER signs The ones with the speed limit! Not too mention IT will NEVER matter what the actaul speed limit is-those doing 80 will still be TOO slow for you!! Everyone is in a hurry to get home or get to work BUT forget common decency or courtesy! Do you really have to do 80? 90? Just wondering...I mean HOW important are you that you have to put the safety of others in jeopardy????I mean are you a cardiologiist rushing to the hospital to do a transplant? Just wondering. | | | |
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Jason
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| | 11/14/2007 11:19 AM |
Alert | | I wouldn't care if I was stuck in traffic going 65 all the way home but it's never like that any more. There's always some jerk leading the line speeding up and slowing down. 55->50->60->70->60. You get the idea. No one can pass or everyone who can is too chicken or absorbed in their cell phone call or something. I actually like it now when I get stuck at Riggs and I'm in the front of the line. I get to put some distance between me and them and set the cruise for 70-80 depending on the conditions. I know that my drive will be far safer than the people who are stuck behind the control freaks. | |
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geewiz
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| | 11/14/2007 6:17 PM |
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Jason if you ask a question of myself that proves your smarter than a 5th grader I will answer it.
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Scorpio
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| | 11/14/2007 9:09 PM |
Alert | Geez, I can't stand it anymore! I have driven all over the United States, several times, and my father was a truck driver for many years. It is COMMON KNOWLEDGE and COMMON COURTESY that the left lane is for passing ONLY. As soon as you pass the car you move to the right lane so as not to block traffic. It has been that way since the beginning of highways and it will always be that way. Sinbad, you must really be a country bumpkin if you don't know that and have all these arguments for not following the rules of highway etiquette. Who taught you how to drive? Anyone causing a back up of traffic on a highway is playing a deadly game.
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Jason
Posts:3378
| | 11/14/2007 10:47 PM |
Alert | <div class='NTForums_Quote'>Posted By geewiz on 11/14/2007 6:17 PM
Jason if you ask a question of myself that proves your smarter than a 5th grader I will answer it.
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Apparently a simple analogy goes over your head. The sign says slower and the law defines slower. End of story. Get it? | |
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TortosaGuy
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| | 11/14/2007 11:14 PM |
Alert | | i agree with both sides of the argument here....i am an admitted 70-80mph guy on the 347 and freeway for that matter...and choose to drive in whichever lane suits me at the time....and personally...though against "the law"...i would rather be passed on the right...its easier for me to see the blind spot on the right side then the left side...but laws are broken day in and day out....and no matter how someone drives...there will always be someone who doesnt like it....i work in the operating room and if these people have a coronary over other people's driving...it means more job security for me =) | |
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Grilladawg
Posts:219
| | 11/15/2007 3:31 AM |
Alert | Ummm, "left lane is for passing ONLY," is a myth, maybe courtesy, but not common.
When you learn about it more in a driving course or defensive driving school, they will teach to you the common myths and misperceptions that people have in regards to what and what not to do.
the whole left lane is passing only is a myth, it is USED for passing or could be used, but not reserved ONLY for passing other vehicles.
This is the myth they try to remove from people as they believe it is the law to do so, that there is a common rule and law amongst drivers that the left lane is ONLY RESERVED for passing.
The same applies for a green light, which means what? Most people will answer, green means go right? Wrong, green means go...but with caution.
It doesn't mean, just because it is a green light, that lawfully you could step on the gas pedal and drag your way through as it is a green light, you need to go, but proceed with caution...ahhh, got a bunch of people and it's one of those things where "drivers" will make up their own rules about the road but fail to properly follow the real rules of the road through traffic rules and regulations, not driver error and force of habit.
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