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jinmarUser is Offline

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01/04/2008 7:04 PM Alert 
Saw it tonight- I did not see any warning signs other than the traffic jam it created. Might as well been an accident. Agree 100% with the ambiguity of the speed limits. 65 North and 55 South? Come on~! Someone needs to fight DPS and ADOT on this ASAP. The tickets they are writing are not valid. Personally I think the whole Photo Radar thing is a cash cow and nothing else.
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01/04/2008 7:11 PM Alert 
Might as well been an accident.


Actually there was one. It was on the southbound shoulder, about 1/2-1 mile north of the van. There was a motorcycle and a truck with a dent in it and a police car pulled off to the side. It looked like they were looking for someone on the side of the road too.

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01/06/2008 9:16 AM Alert 
whether its the law or not...i dont think they should have to post their presence with a sign...if a police officer sitting along side the road getting speeders with the use of a radar gun doesnt need to have his presence posted then neither do the photo radar trucks in my opinion...if you dont like them....dont speed...get over it and drive

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01/06/2008 9:45 AM Alert 
Reading these posts... really makes me wonder about the average IQ of Americans today. We are doomed.
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01/06/2008 10:11 AM Alert 
Seems to me they want you to continue at 55 from Casa Blanca rd or they would have put up new signs. What so hard to understand. Some of you new comers to Maricopa living here 5 yrs or less wants us oldtimers to change with the times and adapt to the changes. Well take your own advice and change to the new speed limit. When a new sign goes up that states you can go 65 after Casa Blanca rd. then change again.
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01/06/2008 11:47 AM Alert 
Posted By TortosaGuy on 01/06/2008 9:16 AM
whether its the law or not...i dont think they should have to post their presence with a sign...if a police officer sitting along side the road getting speeders with the use of a radar gun doesnt need to have his presence posted then neither do the photo radar trucks in my opinion...if you dont like them....dont speed...get over it and drive

The difference is that the police officer is going to go after people he wants to ticket. You will know immediately if you did something wrong. With the photo radar, they're recording your image and sending it to you weeks later, so some warning might help jog your memory later on. Otherwise you could conceivably go through and never know, until at some random point later, you have a ticket. With the signs, you have the ability to remember the situation, should you need to defend yourself later.

Posted By geewiz on 01/06/2008 10:11 AM
Seems to me they want you to continue at 55 from Casa Blanca rd or they would have put up new signs. What so hard to understand. Some of you new comers to Maricopa living here 5 yrs or less wants us oldtimers to change with the times and adapt to the changes. Well take your own advice and change to the new speed limit. When a new sign goes up that states you can go 65 after Casa Blanca rd. then change again.

So you're saying it is safe having traffic that travels at two different speed limits? And that it's perfectly logical for one direction to be 65 and the other to be 55? C'mon, if you think about it, does that really make sense? I already proved once that they are careless in setting speed limits. Earlier during construction they had the whole length set for 45, even where there was no construction. An email later to the construction company and ADOT reset it to what it should be: 65.

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01/06/2008 1:42 PM Alert 
Why would you think it is unsafe to travel 55 headed south bound while the north bound is traveling 65 unless your the person that drives in the north bound lane headed south. If that distracts you that much please let me know what times you are driving on 347 so I can make sure I leave earlier than you. You probably can't tell the differecne anyway on the speed of the traffic going the opposite way. To answer your question about it being logical no it doesn't but I don't control what and were signs are placed. Something else that doesn't make since is the sign that states reduce speed ahead prior to entering Maricopa. It drops to 55 then 45 so yes you would think it was higher than 55 prior to that but the legal speed limit is still what the last speed limit sign you passed is posted at. Saying that it is 65 between Casa Blanca and Maricopa is like saying wow those are my winning lottery numbers but I forgot to buy my ticket then going to try to collect my millions at the lottery office. You would be laughed right out of the building.
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01/06/2008 2:51 PM Alert 
Why would you think it is unsafe to travel 55 headed south bound while the north bound is traveling 65 unless your the person that drives in the north bound lane headed south. If that distracts you that much please let me know what times you are driving on 347 so I can make sure I leave earlier than you.


You completely misunderstood my question. Reread my posts in this thread about the southbound speed limits. You'll see that there are currently two different speed limits based on when you turn onto 347. I'm asking: Do you think that is safe?

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JasonUser is Offline

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01/06/2008 2:54 PM Alert 
And yes, if you turn onto 347 from Casa Blanca, the speed limit is 65, that was my point. Two different speed limits make no sense.

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01/06/2008 3:29 PM Alert 
>>>Yesterday I broke down on the side of the road with my two toddlers, absolutely horrible. Well my husband was 40 miles away in Phoenix. I told him not to speed when he was coming to get us but he did anyways, he was really worried. Well a cop caught him going 91 right before you turn onto the 347>>>>

Sorry but the cop was nicer than I would have been, your husband was a danger a everyone on a road that night. You were fine, he didn't save that much more time by going 91 and could have killed my whole family with his negligence. What if the shoe was on the other foot?
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01/06/2008 5:50 PM Alert 
jason...your answer to my statement makes sense...however i still disagree with the premise of posting for one and not the other....if you dont speed then you wont have to worry whether its a cop...or some van along side the road taking your picture

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01/07/2008 10:44 AM Alert 
The camera is there because people speed too much on the 347. I'd be willing to bet if more do the limit the camera would disappear. Pretty easy solution.

I dont blame ADOT. I blame the speeders for the camera being there.

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01/07/2008 10:54 AM Alert 
I speed it is all my fault the cameras are here hehe...good thing you can see the van soon enough to hit the brakes and no flashy
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01/07/2008 11:36 AM Alert 
<div class='NTForums_Quote'>Posted By pissedparent on 01/06/2008 3:29 PM
>>>Yesterday I broke down on the side of the road with my two toddlers, absolutely horrible. Well my husband was 40 miles away in Phoenix. I told him not to speed when he was coming to get us but he did anyways, he was really worried. Well a cop caught him going 91 right before you turn onto the 347>>>>
Sorry but the cop was nicer than I would have been, your husband was a danger a everyone on a road that night. You were fine, he didn't save that much more time by going 91 and could have killed my whole family with his negligence. What if the shoe was on the other foot?</div>

Not really. An experienced driver doing 91 in a vehcle designed and built for such speeds, is a lot safer than some dimwit who's doing the limit but not paying attention because they're texting/doing their hair/eating/picking their nose.

I'd sooner have someone doing 91 on the 347 than having to slam on their brakes to avoid getting a ticket from the photo radar without signage.
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