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Subject: Various Directions in case SR347 is closed
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LanoUser is Offline

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11/28/2007 9:35 PM Alert 
<div class='NTForums_Quote'>Posted By Fritzydoodle on 08/17/2007 2:59 PM

Print this out and keep it in your car for future use! This is directions to Maricopa - reverse the route to leave.



Fritzy......thanks for putting this up. I think you pick your poison with any of these alternatives. I heard the news of the accident last night, called a friend who was already trapped and going nowhere in the mess, called my wife, and decided to exit on Ray and go have dinner. By the time I was done, my friend who took your Casa Blanca "alternative" was about 40 cars deep still tring to get on the 347. So the moral is.....if you are'nt already trapped, and you try one of these alternatives, you're probably just as screwed. Thank-you though, I will have this in my car just in case.
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12/06/2007 8:40 PM Alert 
I NEVER take Casa Blanca. Every time I do, the police have it blocked off and won't let you turn left. The LAST time this happened I was the next car to make a left, and he just pulled up and blocked me off. I was ANGRY. I waited 30 minutes in line to make a left only to have to turn around and take Val Vista anyway. So I only that that route if there is an accident. I will not take Casa Blanca again until the light goes in and I am sure the accident is south of the light.


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12/08/2007 2:11 PM Alert 
Tried Murphy Rd yesterday because 347 was down to one lane leaving Maricopa.

This road is rough, maybe from the recent rain. It works, but use caution.

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12/08/2007 8:31 PM Alert 
So this will help end some of the wonder and confusion. Yes you can get a ticket for driving on ANY of the tribal roads. My husband was driving on Murphy RD. headed to Casa Blanca. Our power had gone off some time during th night, so needless to say we were running late. My son goes to school down at Santa Cruz, so it makes sense to just try a more direct route. Well he was pulled over as he got closer to Casa Blanca. He got a $100.00 ticket for tresspassing and then impounded our truck. This all took place on the 19th of November. The truck was to stay impounded until the 19th of Dec. By him pleading guilty to civil tresspassing he was able to get the truck out after 3 days. So after a $220. impound/towing fee, and a $100 ticket and 2 days of missed work we have our truck back. I will not drive on those roads every again.
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12/17/2007 2:59 PM Alert 
Nothing against the indian reservations, but I have to ask this fundamental question:

If Indian residents are allowed to drive on Arizona roads, then why can't we drive on theirs?

If they elect to arrest us for trespassing, should we not do the same the next time they drive through Maricopa?

Just wondering.
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12/17/2007 8:39 PM Alert 
<div class='NTForums_Quote'>Posted By maricopatrainfan on 12/17/2007 2:59 PM
Nothing against the indian reservations, but I have to ask this fundamental question:
If Indian residents are allowed to drive on Arizona roads, then why can't we drive on theirs?
If they elect to arrest us for trespassing, should we not do the same the next time they drive through Maricopa?
Just wondering.</div>

It's the deal we made with them. I'd like to think they'd give our fellow citizens warnings before they just start impounding vehichles and imposing big fines. Their policies are their policies and I respect that, but cut your neighbors some slack.
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06/04/2008 9:34 AM Alert 
Wow, I just ran across these. I notice that the post was from last year. Have there been any changes or updates to any of these?
Thanks!
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06/26/2008 8:00 PM Alert 
Posted By jettasmom on 06/04/2008 9:34 AM
Wow, I just ran across these. I notice that the post was from last year. Have there been any changes or updates to any of these?
Thanks!



I got busted for driving on N. Murphy road on Tuesday.  I was cited for "civil trespassing." There is NO sign telling you that you are enterring the reservation, nor any indication that you are trespassing and can be cited.

To make things even more fun, I got the route from mapquest.com!!

Here it is, just from some random location near Santa Cruz Elementary school.  (Actually click on the shortest distance option to see the route I used...I took Murphy straight up from Honeycutt, not Hartmann and Smith-Enke.)

Any ideas on what to do would be very much appreciated. 

 

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06/26/2008 10:49 PM Alert 
The only road you can take through the reservation at this point in time is Casa Blanca. Also, GRIC recently closed the University of Arizona-Maricopa Agricultural Center road on Casa Blanca by placing a locked gate in front of it. Gila River PD consistently sits near Murphy Road looking for unauthorized vehicles on the reservation. My husband works for the tribe, has an authorized company vehicle registered to the tribe, and is barely able to drive on Murphy Road.

I thought MapQuest showed the tribal land line on their maps. Even though there's no "official" sign posted on Murphy, once you get out of RED, you're on tribal land. GRIC doesn't need to advertise that you're on tribal land either. What you don't know will only benefit the tribe. But the rule of thumb generally is if you're trespassing anywhere (whether it be Murphy Road or someone's house), you're going to be cited, with or without a sign.

My advice would be to find an alternative route of travel. Gila River PD isn't going anywhere.
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06/27/2008 7:03 AM Alert 

The grics love for us to use the casino road, but you wil get a ticket if your on any other road.

Time to boycott gric casinos until they become better neighbors.  

 

Go to Harrah's or Salt River.

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06/27/2008 8:03 AM Alert 
My understanding of the Tribal land is that if it paved, it's legal unless posted otherwise or gated. If it's a dirt road.....don't do it.
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06/27/2008 11:11 PM Alert 
Murphy Road isn't paved all the way through. The tribe will cite you for trespassing, and their argument is that the road isn't maintained and they're only looking out for your best interest.
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06/28/2008 9:53 AM Alert 

Posted By OldTownCopa on 06/27/2008 11:11 PM
Murphy Road isn't paved all the way through. The tribe will cite you for trespassing, and their argument is that the road isn't maintained and they're only looking out for your best interest.

Have you ever been cited?  I'm still trying to put my useless defense against this together.  Thanks for the info.  I wish I had known about this site before using that road.

 

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