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Granny5XUser is Offline

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03/17/2008 3:59 PM Alert 

I am not looking for responses to this topic.  I am using this venue to vent my concern.  This new traffic signal going in just north of the tracks is needed, HOWEVER, I hate to say it, but commuters are going to get stuck ON THE TRACKS. 

People tailgate, and that causes no room for backing up or pulling forward.  Mark my words.  Within 30 days of that light being active, there will be a fatality, and the count of fatalities will not stop.  So sad that we had to grow so fast that we couldn't have an infrastructure in place first.  I hope and pray this post proves to be so wrong.  I would love the headlines on the local paper to say: NO FATALITIES INVOLVING TRAINS THIS MONTH

Granny5x


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Cactus RobUser is Offline

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03/17/2008 4:33 PM Alert 
If the traffic signal for northbound traffic isn't going to be installed south of the tracks, so northbound vehicles are stopped south of the tracks, then I sadly have to agree, Granny5X.
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03/17/2008 4:58 PM Alert 

You have a good point, and yes unfortunately, "they" (the traffic planners did not do that.)  They actually overlooked (in my view) the light that goes to the school.  There will now be multiple lights south of the tracks, that will add to the death toll.  And our school buses leave that light south of the tracks to take our kids home on the north side.  This whole subject troubles me.  Cactus Rob, I don't know where you live, but if you are a parent of a Maricopa student and your kids bus travels this route... Need I say more!!!!  I'm a Granny for Heavens sake!  I'm tackleing this problem for my grandkids safety.


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Cactus RobUser is Offline

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03/17/2008 6:32 PM Alert 

I live in the Villages and my youngest grandchild is 20 years old and lives in Oklahoma.  It's just that I still believe "an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure".  I don't hear that much any more.  Instead, it's "take no action until there is a demonstrated need".   Even when lives are at stake!          

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03/17/2008 8:22 PM Alert 

"HOWEVER, I hate to say it, but commuters are going to get stuck ON THE TRACKS. "

 

According to our resident soothsayer, Jason, who crossed tracks in Tempe many times and never saw this, this is not supposed to, nor never will happen.  Yeah, right.


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03/17/2008 9:27 PM Alert 
I'm just glad I don't travel that far south, and I won't be stuck on the tracks

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03/17/2008 9:59 PM Alert 
Why would you stop on the tracks? Learning how to drive would prevent more fatalities than the locations of stoplights cause them. If there is a lot of traffic, proceed with caution near the tracks. It really isn't that hard. Its like the people who stop in the middle of intersections.
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03/17/2008 11:06 PM Alert 
Agree with AZSouthernendzone on this one. If you ever stop on railroad tracks you need to have your license revoked.

In case you didn't already know this:
School busses must stop before crossing any railroad tracks whether they are active or not
Any vehicle carrying oil, gas, or any flammable, explosive, or hazardous materials must stop before crossing any railroad tracks whether they are active or not.

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03/17/2008 11:43 PM Alert 
Posted By OBG II on 03/17/2008 8:22 PM

"HOWEVER, I hate to say it, but commuters are going to get stuck ON THE TRACKS. "

 

According to our resident soothsayer, Jason, who crossed tracks in Tempe many times and never saw this, this is not supposed to, nor never will happen.  Yeah, right.


I don't think I said all of that. Can you show me where I said that it would never happen here?


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maricopacabanaUser is Offline

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03/18/2008 7:22 AM Alert 

They do have a light on the southside of the tracks before the light.   I could also be that oncoming trains will trigger the red light far enough in advance for traffic to clear the area.

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03/18/2008 7:22 AM Alert 

They do have a light on the southside of the tracks before the light.   I could also be that oncoming trains will trigger the red light far enough in advance for traffic to clear the area.

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03/18/2008 7:25 AM Alert 

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ha ha, nice trick Jason; you deleted the post so I could not prove you said that.

Must be a first for you, deleting a post.

However, you did not delete this one:

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01/26/2008 1:17 PM Quote Reply Alert 
Then you were following too closely. There a similar situation on University Dr near ASU, I went through there dozens and dozens of times and no one got stuck on the tracks


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03/18/2008 7:48 AM Alert 
If you're dumb enough to stop on the tracks, you deserve a Darwin award...

Don't blame city planners for the stupidity of the people who stop on the tracks..

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03/18/2008 8:37 AM Alert 
Posted By OBG II on 03/18/2008 7:25 AM

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ha ha, nice trick Jason; you deleted the post so I could not prove you said that.

Must be a first for you, deleting a post.

However, you did not delete this one:

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01/26/2008 1:17 PM Quote Reply Alert 
Then you were following too closely. There a similar situation on University Dr near ASU, I went through there dozens and dozens of times and no one got stuck on the tracks



I didn't delete anything. You're paranoid. I did say what you quoted, but that isn't a statement that no one here will get hurt. That's just my experience with a traffic signal so close to the tracks. You read in the rest.


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OBG IIUser is Offline

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03/18/2008 9:10 AM Alert 

then why is there just a . (period) in your post on the 24th?


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03/18/2008 9:14 AM Alert 

If you are stupid enough to stop your car on the tracks, then you deserve to get hit by the train and good riddance to you.  One less dumb@ss in the world, boohoo.

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03/18/2008 9:19 AM Alert 
The downside of that is there would be one more empty house for sale out here...

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OBG IIUser is Offline

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03/18/2008 9:23 AM Alert 

Reality check:  the train has hit cars there before; resulting in fatalities; this is without the stop lights.  People do stop on the tracks or try to beat the train.  If you are on the tracks and waiting in traffic, where do you go if the train is coming the the arms go down?


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Cactus RobUser is Offline

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03/18/2008 9:23 AM Alert 

Thanks for the info, maricopacabana.   I was unaware of the signal south of the tracks and I should have investigated before posting. 

If northbound traffic is going to be stopped south of the tracks, then everything should work fine.  Especially so if traffic signals in all directions are controlled by an oncoming train, allowing only right turns onto JWP from MCG Hwy as the train travels through.  That would make the intersection and RR crossing even safer than it is presently. 

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03/18/2008 9:30 AM Alert 
Posted By OBG II on 03/18/2008 9:10 AM

then why is there just a . (period) in your post on the 24th?


I do that when there is a problem with the quotes or smilies. I repost the same thing with the correct formatting and smilies and then take out the original with just a '.' within minutes of posting. I don't go back after the fact and wipe out posts like that.


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