PC&BN
Posts:58
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 Alert | | Does anyone drive a flex fuel car here in Maricopa? | | | |
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Jason
Posts:3378
| | 10/17/2007 12:34 PM |
Alert | | I hope not, since they're a waste of money. | |
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Copa Conscious
Posts:379
| | 10/17/2007 12:37 PM |
Alert | | The fuel costs more $ and you get less MPG. | | | |
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PC&BN
Posts:58
| | 10/17/2007 12:52 PM |
Alert | | From what I've seen the MPG is only decreased by 2%..... | | | |
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Silence
Posts:0
| | 10/17/2007 1:01 PM |
Alert | | The MPG depends on the fuel run and the tuning of the vehicle. If the vehicle is tuneds for Gas and runs on ethanol.....bad MPG, and vice verse | | | |
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DesertDweller
Posts:2559
| | 10/17/2007 1:32 PM |
Alert | | I have a Yukon that can burn E-85. Never tried it as it's not available. I also have a Prius. | |
Stupid should hurt!
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PC&BN
Posts:58
| | 10/17/2007 1:34 PM |
Alert | | I know of someone that wanted to open a flex fuel/regular gasoline gas station but they are unsure of the demand for it........... | | | |
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PC&BN
Posts:58
| | 10/17/2007 1:34 PM |
Alert | | There are a couple of places in Phoenix as well as Tuscon I believe for e85 DD... | | | |
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AzSandSlinger
Posts:585
| | 10/17/2007 1:56 PM |
Alert | IIRC, there's ONE in Phoenix... but it's NOT available to the public.. and there's a handful (4-5) in Tucson that are available to the public..
Natural Gas or Diesel is a much better alternative than E-85..
-Shane
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PC&BN
Posts:58
| | 10/17/2007 2:12 PM |
Alert | | Oops! Sorry I thought there were other E85 stations available! Thanks for setting me straight SandSlinger! | | | |
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Pizzaking
Posts:230
| | 10/18/2007 1:14 PM |
Alert | E85 stations:
Arizona Department of Administration
1501 W Madison Street
Phoenix
Government Use Only
Gas City
520-439-5700
2275 Buffalo Soldier Trail
Sierra Vista
Public
Arizona Petroleum Products
520-623-4721
1015 S Cherry
Tucson
Public
University of Arizona Motor Pool
1597 E 16th Street
Tucson
Private Use Only
Loma Catalina Mart - Diamond Shamrock
520-323-2755
2075 W Ruthrauff
Tucson
Public Use Gas Station
C&T Oil Company #2
520-721-2483
8601 East Golf Links Road
Tucson
Public Use Gas Station
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Pizzaking
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Jason
Posts:3378
| | 10/18/2007 1:52 PM |
Alert | Posted By Silence on 10/17/2007 1:01 PM
The MPG depends on the fuel run and the tuning of the vehicle. If the vehicle is tuneds for Gas and runs on ethanol.....bad MPG, and vice verse
Universally, vehicles run on E85 consistently get worse gas mileage than those run on E10 (regular gas). The reason is that ethanol has less energy per gallon, forcing your engine to work harder and burn more to achieve the same power. That combined with the fact that E85 requires more energy to create than it produces (at least until they switch to cellulose based ethanol) makes it a bad choice. | |
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Jason
Posts:3378
| | 10/18/2007 1:57 PM |
Alert | Posted By PC&BN on 10/17/2007 12:52 PM
From what I've seen the MPG is only decreased by 2%.....
It's usually far worse than 2%:
E85 Ethanol Vehicles for 2007 | |
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Jason
Posts:3378
| | 10/18/2007 1:59 PM |
Alert | | In that link, the Nissan Titan has a 28-29% loss, and the Chrysler Sebring has a 27-32% loss, for example. | |
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rule11
Posts:344
| | 10/18/2007 3:28 PM |
Alert | e-85 sux! the gas mileage was horrible, so they want us to pay more for the fuel and get less mileage? @*&#^*!(#*$*&)(@&*#^)!!!!!!!!!! i'll stick with regular unleaded.
then again, i think my vehicle was still tuned for unleaded. diddo. | |
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Pizzaking
Posts:230
| | 10/19/2007 7:59 AM |
Alert | | Dont forget Janet kicked flex fuel cars out of the HOV lane also. Now they are comletely worthless. | |
Pizzaking
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AzSandSlinger
Posts:585
| | 10/19/2007 9:22 AM |
Alert | Dont forget Janet kicked flex fuel cars out of the HOV lane also.
Rightly so... They should have never been there to begin with..
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vinny
Posts:668
| | 10/19/2007 4:04 PM |
Alert | | i dirve a diesel VW. get 45 mpg on average, and with the exception of NOX i put out less emissions than most vehicles of comparible size. i would run biodiesel, but the only place locally that sells it is WSP in downtown phoenix, and they have weird hours. i love my car, and love getting 650 miles out of a tank of fuel. | |
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