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bstoneaz
Posts:404
 | | 10/01/2007 10:05 PM |
 Alert | Well, everyone was so quick to say it was the 347 being torn up that caused the accident, or someone cutting people off, etc. Guess what? This trained driver was estimated to be going in excess of 110 MPH! His stupidity caused someone else to die and their family to suffer.
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/100112n-crashinvestigation.html
Maybe MPD, PCSO and DPS will get off their lazy asses and actually do something about the 347, every day not just once a quarter when ticket writing is down. | |
Just the good ol' boys,
Never meanin' no harm,
Beats all you've ever saw, been in trouble with the law since the day they was born.
Straight'nin' the curve,
Flat'nin' the hills.
Someday the moutain might get 'em, but the law never will.
Makin' their way,
The only way they know how,
That's just a little bit more than the law will allow.
Just good ol' boys,
Wouldn't change if they could,
Fightin' the system like a true modern day Robin Hood. | |
| | caveman
Posts:1088
| | 10/01/2007 10:55 PM |
Alert | | There is already a thread about this under the driving section. Why you post it here I don't really know. Secondly when people speed on the 347 it is nowhere near this. Most of the time people do around 80 which is far far away from 110. Nobody would justify doing 110 on the 347, the funny thing is the person that was going that fast was a trained police officer, someone who is supposed to uphold and respect the law. I feel very sorry for the innocent party that was hurt by this animal. | | | |
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| | YZRacer
Posts:1599
| | 10/02/2007 7:38 AM |
Alert | | today its 80, tomorrow they'll feel comfortable going 110. | |
If you can't spot the loser, it might be you
Senior Member
Posts: 665
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| | Java Lover
Posts:0
| | 10/02/2007 7:46 AM |
Alert | There are a lot more doing 100+ then you think.  | | | |
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| | caveman
Posts:1088
| | 10/02/2007 9:12 AM |
Alert | <div class='NTForums_Quote'>Posted By YZRacer on 10/02/2007 7:38 AM
today its 80, tomorrow they'll feel comfortable going 110. </div>
But why stop there. In 10 years are you telling me people will be doing 130? I am sorry but the slippery slope argument does not hold water here. | | | |
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| | Jason
Posts:3378
| | 10/02/2007 9:31 AM |
Alert | Posted By YZRacer on 10/02/2007 7:38 AM
today its 80, tomorrow they'll feel comfortable going 110.
And you know, in 5-10 years we may have the technology to go 110 safely. Wouldn't it be nice to halve your commute time? It would really put to rest all of those comparisons that people put out saying "you only save 2-3 minutes going xx MPH". | |
Joined: Jul 2005 | |
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|  | YZRacer
Posts:1599
| | 10/02/2007 9:39 AM |
Alert | | there is a big difference between safely and recklessly. safely doesn't kill people. if in 5-10 years technology and mechanics (or whatever) can make 110mph done safely, then great! but in the meantime, it's reckless and it's killing people | |
If you can't spot the loser, it might be you
Senior Member
Posts: 665
Joined: Jun 2006 | |
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| | Jason
Posts:3378
| | 10/02/2007 9:46 AM |
Alert | It's coming... 
Manufacturers are testing cars with systems that sense when you are approaching other vehicles too fast and automatically brake, they sense lane drift and pull you back into the lane, automatic turn signal indicators, smarter stability systems, etc. | |
Joined: Jul 2005 | |
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| | bstoneaz
Posts:404
| | 10/02/2007 11:11 AM |
Alert | Yes, in time the cars will be built well enough and have the safety systems installed so we can drive 100+ MPH, maybe even on an "auto pilot" sort of system, but this guys 2004 Pontiac wasn't equipped with anything like that. This was just a guy who thought he was above the law because he was a cop (even though he had been stopped a week earlier for speeding) and who thought his training would be all he needs. I'm sure his Pontiac was built to withstand the rigors of 110+ speeds just like my Yukon is (sarcasm).
This guys arrogance caused someone else's families grief. The person he killed was someone's son, probably someone's husband and maybe even someone's father. I truly wish he had not been killed so he could be charged with some form of manslaughter/2nd degree murder/etc and spend a few years in prison thinking of his actions. | |
Just the good ol' boys,
Never meanin' no harm,
Beats all you've ever saw, been in trouble with the law since the day they was born.
Straight'nin' the curve,
Flat'nin' the hills.
Someday the moutain might get 'em, but the law never will.
Makin' their way,
The only way they know how,
That's just a little bit more than the law will allow.
Just good ol' boys,
Wouldn't change if they could,
Fightin' the system like a true modern day Robin Hood. | |
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| | Colgate
Posts:629
| | 10/02/2007 11:50 AM |
Alert | <div class='NTForums_Quote'>Posted By Jason on 10/02/2007 9:46 AM
It's coming... <img src='http://www.85239.com/desktopmodules/ntforums/images/emoticons/smile.gif' height='20' width='20' border='0' title='Smile' align='absmiddle'>
Manufacturers are testing cars with systems that sense when you are approaching other vehicles too fast and automatically brake, they sense lane drift and pull you back into the lane, automatic turn signal indicators, smarter stability systems, etc.</div>
Yeah, remember this, amateur's built the Ark and professionals built the Titanic!!!!! You go first! <img src='http://www.85239.com/desktopmodules/ntforums/images/emoticons/smile.gif' height='20' width='20' border='0' title='Smile' align='absmiddle'> | |
Live every day as if it were your last and smile! | |
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| | JonAndAshly
Posts:233
| | 10/02/2007 11:51 AM |
Alert | | It seems like a lot of these young cops think they are invisible and above the law. Its really sad that he wasnt even thinking of his own family when he was driving 110+ miles an hour. I would hope that my husband would have the sense to not only think of the people he shares the road with but of us at home. Not only does his family have to live with his death but with the humiliation of his act of total disregard for other people's lives. Its one thing for an officer to die in a respectable manor but this is just shameful. | | | |
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| | Colgate
Posts:629
| | 10/02/2007 11:52 AM |
Alert | <div class='NTForums_Quote'>Posted By bstoneaz on 10/02/2007 11:11 AM
Yes, in time the cars will be built well enough and have the safety systems installed so we can drive 100+ MPH, maybe even on an "auto pilot" sort of system, but this guys 2004 Pontiac wasn't equipped with anything like that. This was just a guy who thought he was above the law because he was a cop (even though he had been stopped a week earlier for speeding) and who thought his training would be all he needs. I'm sure his Pontiac was built to withstand the rigors of 110+ speeds just like my Yukon is (sarcasm).
This guys arrogance caused someone else's families grief. The person he killed was someone's son, probably someone's husband and maybe even someone's father. I truly wish he had not been killed so he could be charged with some form of manslaughter/2nd degree murder/etc and spend a few years in prison thinking of his actions.</div>
It will be okay, he met his maker in the end! | |
Live every day as if it were your last and smile! | |
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| | pfunk
Posts:73
| | 10/02/2007 12:18 PM |
Alert | <div class='NTForums_Quote'>Posted By Jason on 10/02/2007 9:46 AM
It's coming... <img src='http://www.85239.com/desktopmodules/ntforums/images/emoticons/smile.gif' height='20' width='20' border='0' title='Smile' align='absmiddle'>
Manufacturers are testing cars with systems that sense when you are approaching other vehicles too fast and automatically brake, they sense lane drift and pull you back into the lane, automatic turn signal indicators, smarter stability systems, etc.</div>
Are Manufacturers testing cars with anti-vaulting technology to prevent them from landing on top of other vehicles? I'm pretty sure sensing another vehicle approaching too fast and automatically braking will do little while airborne.
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| | mallardisme
Posts:590
| | 10/03/2007 2:19 AM |
Alert | Yep... Someday..
Today, there was a Jeep that saw a car flying at him and, well, he died.
That is the long and short of the story.
The thing that was really bad was, it was an off duty cop, not a drunk that killed him.
Both drivers had seatbelts on, which should speak volumes on the collision.
Why was he driving 111 MPH?
Nooo Excuse... Murder, pure and simple.
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| | rattle2
Posts:132
| | 10/03/2007 9:22 AM |
Alert | <div class='NTForums_Quote'>Posted By Jason on 10/02/2007 9:46 AM
It's coming...
Manufacturers are testing cars with systems that sense when you are approaching other vehicles too fast and automatically brake, they sense lane drift and pull you back into the lane, automatic turn signal indicators, smarter stability systems, etc.</div>
So is the "self disclosure" speed enforcement system. If you are speeding the vehicle will automatically notify the authorities and a citation will be issued to you. All the data will be presented to legal authorities and you will be fined via "automatic" withdrawal. If it is a severe violation or a repeat, your vehicle will safely pull over to the side of the road automatically. A tow vehicle will arrive and you will be haul to an appropriate location (i.e. jail, impound, public hanging j/k). There are many things in our future.
We need to respond to the present situation. Photo radar is a good place to start. | |
Sometimes we just make life to difficult.
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| | Jason
Posts:3378
| | 10/03/2007 9:45 AM |
Alert | We need to respond to the present situation. Photo radar is a good place to start.
Think about this for a second. This officer had his airbag cut out of the car and was recently cited for speeding. What would photo radar have done? Nothing. | |
Joined: Jul 2005 | |
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| | Jason
Posts:3378
| | 10/03/2007 9:46 AM |
Alert | Nooo Excuse... Murder, pure and simple.
Does anyone know exactly what happened? No. So how can you say that? | |
Joined: Jul 2005 | |
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| | bstoneaz
Posts:404
| | 10/03/2007 9:52 AM |
Alert | <div class='NTForums_Quote'>Posted By Jason on 10/03/2007 9:45 AM
<div class='NTForums_Quote'>We need to respond to the present situation. Photo radar is a good place to start.</div>
Think about this for a second. This officer had his airbag cut out of the car and was recently cited for speeding. What would photo radar have done? Nothing.</div>
Photo radar may have worked because it would be a deterrent to speeding. If he had been worried about getting hit with a reckless driving/excessive speed ticket he may not have been driving that fast to begin with.
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Just the good ol' boys,
Never meanin' no harm,
Beats all you've ever saw, been in trouble with the law since the day they was born.
Straight'nin' the curve,
Flat'nin' the hills.
Someday the moutain might get 'em, but the law never will.
Makin' their way,
The only way they know how,
That's just a little bit more than the law will allow.
Just good ol' boys,
Wouldn't change if they could,
Fightin' the system like a true modern day Robin Hood. | |
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| | bstoneaz
Posts:404
| | 10/03/2007 9:53 AM |
Alert | <div class='NTForums_Quote'>Posted By Jason on 10/03/2007 9:46 AM
<div class='NTForums_Quote'>Nooo Excuse... Murder, pure and simple. </div>
Does anyone know exactly what happened? No. So how can you say that?</div>
Because there was no reason for him to be driving that fast. If he was that important to Phx PD where he needed to get to calls from home (SWAT, Bomb Squad, etc) he would have had a take home car, plus Phx PD probably would have said he was on his way to a call to make it "OK".
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Just the good ol' boys,
Never meanin' no harm,
Beats all you've ever saw, been in trouble with the law since the day they was born.
Straight'nin' the curve,
Flat'nin' the hills.
Someday the moutain might get 'em, but the law never will.
Makin' their way,
The only way they know how,
That's just a little bit more than the law will allow.
Just good ol' boys,
Wouldn't change if they could,
Fightin' the system like a true modern day Robin Hood. | |
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| | caveman
Posts:1088
| | 10/03/2007 9:53 AM |
Alert | <div class='NTForums_Quote'>Posted By rattle2 on 10/03/2007 9:22 AM
We need to respond to the present situation. Photo radar is a good place to start. </div>
This has been beat to death on this forum so I will summarize in case you missed the 20 other threads that talk about photo radar. It won't work! The only people that benefit from photo radar is Redflex Systems, the company that gets paid from these devices. Photo radar actually will make the road more dangerous. Instead of driving a constant speed people will slow down for the radar and speed back up once they are past it. The radar has done NOTHING for scottsdale and Redflex is laughing all the way to the bank. So please if you have a real solution let us know but this solution is none at all. | | | |
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