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Subject: RED Entrance / Trying to leave in morning
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mikethegoalieUser is Offline

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09/27/2007 12:10 PM Alert 
Why is it that its been backed up this week really bad? I have to keep leaving earlier and earlier..

Is this something I have to get used to.. or is there something going on that is causing more and more people to use the main entrance area to RED?

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09/27/2007 12:27 PM Alert 
I recommend that the city immediately hire a consultant to investigate why RED has more traffic than usual. Actually three consultants. One to design a survey for all of Maricopa's residents, one to analyze the results from the survey and one to collect money *cough* I mean, manage the other two consultants.

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09/27/2007 12:57 PM Alert 
Yes, It is called growth. More people are moving in homes near Smith/Enke. so there is more traffic there. I am guessing that the people who use to use Smith/Enke now just use the main enterence to RED. It will get bad before it gets really bad. The only way it will get better is if the people who don't like how much time it takes to get to work move back closer to their jobs.
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09/27/2007 2:14 PM Alert 
There are a few other threads relating to this currently on this board and some people are saying that those who moved out to Tortosa are using RED as a short cut. In the 3 years that I have lived out here, I have NEVER seen it this bad. RED is not a short cut people!!! I am also having to leave earlier and earlier just to get through that nonsense. I almost wish they would build another way out of there.
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09/27/2007 2:26 PM Alert 
It's been taking me 10-15 min just to get out of RED. I hate it.

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09/27/2007 2:51 PM Alert 
<div class='NTForums_Quote'>Posted By 06woman on 09/27/2007 2:26 PM

It's been taking me 10-15 min just to get out of RED. I hate it. </div>

about the same for me, i haven't been able to find a time to not sit. anytime from 6:00 to 6:30 there is traffic.


it seams like it started one morning and never went away. i guess it started about 2 months ago.


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JasonUser is Offline

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09/27/2007 2:58 PM Alert 
I seem to have no trouble...but then I don't have to leave until 8:30, when I don't get to work from home.

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09/27/2007 3:00 PM Alert 
Hmmm If only my boss wouldn't mind me coming in around 9:30. <img src='http://www.85239.com/desktopmodules/ntforums/images/emoticons/whistling.gif' height='20' width='20' title='Whistling' align='absmiddle'>
JasonUser is Offline

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09/27/2007 3:28 PM Alert 
Only takes me ~20-25 minutes to get in, depending on traffic and mach level...

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09/27/2007 5:53 PM Alert 
<div class='NTForums_Quote'>Posted By vinny on 09/27/2007 2:51 PM

<div class='NTForums_Quote'>Posted By 06woman on 09/27/2007 2:26 PM

It's been taking me 10-15 min just to get out of RED. I hate it. </div>

about the same for me, i haven't been able to find a time to not sit. anytime from 6:00 to 6:30 there is traffic.


it seams like it started one morning and never went away. i guess it started about 2 months ago.

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The day it really started was
a.) When the schools started in Maricopa and the east valley that parents are leaving early to get their kids to school.

b.) ASU started their Fall classes the same day and thats why traffic started and never went away..

Everyone has to leave a little earlier to get their little ones to school and then get to work. Summer or school break you will notice better traffic again.
60milecommuteUser is Offline

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09/27/2007 7:02 PM Alert 
I leave at 530 and it's even backed up at that time 10-15 cars. Used to be 1 or 2......
JasonUser is Offline

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09/27/2007 8:24 PM Alert 
Hey! I wonder if they could set up some police officers to monitor the ingress points of RED and then pull people over and ticket them 2x for avoiding a traffic control device (one at Smith-Enke and one at Cobblestone).

Of course, we'd need the HOA to purchase Rancho El Dorado Parkway so they're actually driving on private property...

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09/27/2007 8:35 PM Alert 
It is like that at 5:50 in the morning too. The people are nice though, we are treating it as a stop sign. Which is nice, because those on the Pima Butte side have the right of way and could leave all of us just sitting there. Yes, I live in Rancho, I am not cutting through.

I have only noticed it in the last few weeks. I used to be able to just drive up and there would be only four of us waiting at the stop light. I am now almost backed up to the park.





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09/27/2007 9:13 PM Alert 
traffic is just going to get worse
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09/28/2007 9:39 AM Alert 
<div class='NTForums_Quote'>Posted By LMB_Fisherman on 09/27/2007 5:53 PM

The day it really started was
a.) When the schools started in Maricopa and the east valley that parents are leaving early to get their kids to school.

b.) ASU started their Fall classes the same day and thats why traffic started and never went away..

Everyone has to leave a little earlier to get their little ones to school and then get to work. Summer or school break you will notice better traffic again.
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That may be part of it but I don't think that's the main cause of traffic. It has never been like this in the last 3 years that I have been out here. Last year and the year before you may have been backed up by the fountain maybe 2 or 3 car lengths around 6:45. Also, there were not as many cars making a left onto that little road you take to turn right onto 347. Now when I leave at that time I am backed up to the wash. I am not sure how far the other side is backed up but it's insane. RED almost needs to have a third exit from the community. To bad they can't build one by Pima Butte school that would connect to the 347.

I have to agree with the OP that it's only going to get worse, especially as the Lakes gets built out.
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09/28/2007 10:17 AM Alert 
The problem seems to be just like any traffic problem in Maricopa: Poor Planning or none at all

The builders really should have constructed multiple entrance/exits to get in and out of RED. It is absolutely ridiculous to wait 20 minutes every morning just to pull out of there

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09/28/2007 10:32 AM Alert 
This has nothing to do with poor planning and everything to do with the Gila River Indian Reservation. RED sits right on top of it and there is no way to get another exit.

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Copa ConsciousUser is Offline

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09/28/2007 10:42 AM Alert 
Having ONE exit onto JWP was not good planning. There should have been at least one more.
JasonUser is Offline

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09/28/2007 10:44 AM Alert 
And where exactly do you propose they put it? The bottleneck here is 347. Adding more exits means more accidents, which means more people screaming for lights which means...wait for it...more delays.

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Copa ConsciousUser is Offline

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09/28/2007 10:47 AM Alert 
I don't live in RED, so I really don't care how long it takes you people to get onto he 347 in the AM.

You know there's a problem. Leave earlier. I leave for work at 4:30a and I see no traffic.
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