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Sp.ed.Tchr
Posts:142
 | | 09/23/2007 9:58 PM |
 Alert | Everyone always wonders why Arizona has so many "bad" drivers. How many people do you know that are from another state? I think I was here for 2 weeks before I met someone that was a true Arizona native! So, let's take a look at what drivers have to do to get their license in other states...
I come from a state where you could get a permit the day you turned 14. How do you go from a permit to a license? Easy! Especially if you are a good student. Take a driver's education course and pass with an A or B and as part of that course-drive X number of hours. Then, Voila! The instructor signs a paper that you take to the DMV for a restricted license. Restricted meaning only able to drive from 6am to 8pm or immediately following a school event. When you turn 16, you go back to the DMV for a permanent license that is good until 30 days after the day you turn 21. After that, it is renewed every 6 years. Let me also add that I grew up in a town of about 600 people. The X number of hours that I had to drive - never included experience on a freeway, with traffic lights, city traffic, etc. However, once I had my license, I gained a lot of driving experience with little difficulty because the nearest mall was 90 miles away and 50 of the 90 miles was interstate. (haha...which on it's busiest day, has way less traffic than 347 on it's slowest day) When I moved to Arizona, I just exchanged my license for one that lasts until I turn 65!
So, what if instead of doing a straight exchange, they required state transfers to take a driving refresher course kind of like the ones you take if you want to keep a ticket off your insurance? <img src='http://www.85239.com/desktopmodules/ntforums/images/emoticons/smile.gif' height='20' width='20' border='0' title='Smile' align='absmiddle'> A pain - yes. But maybe we would have some improved drivers?
What did you have to do to get a driver's license? | | | |
| | Tigg
Posts:549
| | 09/23/2007 10:14 PM |
Alert | That's all you had to do? That's nuts. In order to get a drivers permit you had to be 15 and had to take a classroom driving course. I don't remember how many hours it was, but if you took it at school it was a semester, if you took it from a private driving school it was several days (I think actually a couple of weeks). Then, after taking that class, you went to the DMV and took a written multiple choice test. If you passed that test, then you got your permit. The public schools told everyone that you had to be 15 1/2, but the actual law was 15, so you could get it sooner if you went to a private driving school.
Then, while you had your permit you had to either do a minimum of 6 hours with a driving instructor or something like 30 hours with a parent or other adult. Then, at 16 you could go for your drivers license test. For the drivers license test, first you had to take the written multiple choice test again, then you took at behind the wheel test with a DMV tester - and those guys were TOUGH! They looked for anything they could to deny you your license. Any little itty bitty error counted against you and you only were allowed a couple of errors (there were also certain things that were automatic fails). The test was driving around town near the DMV office and included things like U-turns, 3 point turns, parallel parking, merging in and out of traffic, etc.... Then, every 4 years you have to go into the DMV and get a new license with a new picture & they'd make you do the vision test and sometimes they'd make you retake the written exam, but I don't remember how oftent that was. | | | |
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| | Tigg
Posts:549
| | 09/23/2007 10:16 PM |
Alert | I was shocked when I moved here and found out that your license is good till your 65 and you only update your picture every 12 years!!!  | | | |
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| | DesertDweller
Posts:2569
| | 09/24/2007 5:07 AM |
Alert | | Unless you're under 21, about the only thing you need to do to get a license in Arizona is slither into the DMV under your own power and breathe until they notice you. | |
Stupid should hurt!
Desert Dweller - Senior Member - Posts: 2982 - Joined: Feb 2006 | |
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| | YZRacer
Posts:1653
| | 09/24/2007 6:58 AM |
Alert | | i remember doing a 3 point turn and taking a written test. don't know if that was for my permit or my license. i did take drivers ed in high school though. that was here in az. | |
If you can't spot the loser, it might be you
Senior Member
Posts: 665
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| | "JustJodi"
Posts:620
| | 09/24/2007 7:54 AM |
Alert | | When I was 30 I took a written test for my permit. About 4 months after that (without a driving school) I went to CG DMV to get my license (in Aug.) I was asked to do a 3 point turn BACKING UP into a coned of parking spot! Well I FAILED the first try because the ding dong told me I HAD TO KEEP BACKING IN and could not correct myself. Well she said you failed, but you can come back tomorrow. So I was VERY MAD! I did go back the next day and asked for a differant person, well I got her again but they told her to explain to me that I could fix myself if I did not go into drive! Well guess what I DID IT! The we went up one block, turned right down turned right and back to DMV. It was a square!!! | |
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|  | Jason
Posts:3378
| | 09/24/2007 10:04 AM |
Alert | | Permit at 15 and 7 months, driving "test" at 16. The "test" consisted of a set of written questions anyone smarter than a bag of hammers could pass, then a parallel parking test (I swear the spot they had coned off was twice as wide as anything in the real world) and then 5 minutes of city driving. It's no wonder we have so many poor drivers. | |
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| | DesertDweller
Posts:2569
| | 09/24/2007 11:38 AM |
Alert | | The driver's license isn't about driving. It's a prelude to the national ID card. | |
Stupid should hurt!
Desert Dweller - Senior Member - Posts: 2982 - Joined: Feb 2006 | |
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| | Trogdor!
Posts:294
| | | leehopper
Posts:146
| | 09/24/2007 11:55 AM |
Alert | It was 1968, I was in Mexico, did not own a car, hire a cab, and bribed the official $50.00 pesos
so watch out when you see me coming, | |
Live today like no one else,
so that tomorrow
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| | JasonY
Posts:3446
| | 09/26/2007 10:02 AM |
Alert | | Back east, people have to take Driver's Education classes.........which I strongly believe Arizona should institute....... | |
"My favorite health club is the International House of Pancakes" -- Lewis Black | |
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| | demonica
Posts:850
| | 09/26/2007 2:55 PM |
Alert | | trogdor, this female bostonian will challenge you to a parallel park-off any day, i am GOOD!!! | | | |
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| | anewman
Posts:671
| | 09/26/2007 6:56 PM |
Alert | <div class='NTForums_Quote'>Posted By JasonY on 09/26/2007 10:02 AM
Back east, people have to take Driver's Education classes.........which I strongly believe Arizona should institute.......</div>
Since most people around here are from somewhere else isn't it fair to say the problem lies not with Arizona but the habits people bring here?? There are afterall very few of us that can call ourselves natives- this is a very transit state.
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"The jouney of life is as much in oneself' as the roads one travels"
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| | anewman
Posts:671
| | 09/26/2007 7:11 PM |
Alert | I grew up in North Central Arizona- here is what I had to do to get my license.
Dad started us off at 13 on forest roads- steering and braking at low speeds.
At 15 years 7mo took the written test to get my permit. I was not allowed to drive an automatic until I knew how to drive a clutch-- which was a 1948 Willy's PU with a 3 on the tree.
Once I knew how to drive that without stalling dad hooked up a 16' trailer to the other pickup and made me drive from Prescott to Flagstaff. Mountain grades and Interstate traffic.
I also had to take the school drivers education course which was a semester where the instructor required parallel parking on a hill on Prescott's bussiest street- not in a parking lot.
At 18 I got my Class A CDL-
Required 3 seperate written tests to get permit
Skills test including straight backing- 90 degree dock, backwards serpentine, and had to jacknife the trailer in limited area
120 point vehicle inspection- anything missed was a point deduction
On road test with instructor
Arizona native-- no accidents and no points in 15 years of driving!! <img src='http://www.85239.com/desktopmodules/ntforums/images/emoticons/tongue.gif' height='20' width='20' border='0' title='Tongue' align='absmiddle'> | |
"The jouney of life is as much in oneself' as the roads one travels"
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| | stinkerbell2
Posts:0
| | 09/26/2007 7:28 PM |
Alert | I bought a box of Cracker Jacks! | | | |
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